Thread: EL PLAN DE AZTLAN (A How-to manual for conquering the USA)

Every American and public official should read "El Plan de Aztlan." This manifesto is nothing more than a how-to manual for the conquering (reconquest) of US territory.

This manifesto is the foundation of M.E.C.h.A's belief system. That is why U.S. high schools should not fund MECha activities (it operates as a high school "student group."
There are also MEChA chapters operating in a number of US colleges.

To read the manifesto yourself (copied word for word, no alterations), you can go directly to it by clicking here:
http://ojjpac.org/aztlan.asp

This is a MUST READ to understand what's going on.

Hey, excellent. Who did the translation?

What does the word carnalismo mean?

Also, I think the translation of the phrase "For La Raza to do. Fuera de La Raza nada." Needs more evaluation and translation.

This is the statement that Ive heard translates as "For the race, everything! Outside the race, nothing!"

W

W, per the longer phrase...that's my understanding of the translation too.

I don't know what "carnalismo" means either.

We should have Lupe translate the phrase and the above word so we are assured of an accurate translation. (I took Spanish in college but most of what I did learn I have forgotten.)

The manifesto itself was written in English [except for a couple of Spanish phrases and words (which were copied as is)] so no translation was necessary or performed. The entire document was taken exactly as it was written on a MEChA website. It hasn't been manipulated/changed by me.

I understand. I think we need to focus in on the spanish language still in this piece to provide readers with more understanding of those terms. If we can get that, then we can help you launch that piece out to the nation.

You have a really good idea here Steve. Just needs a cherry on top so to speak.

W

I just Googled "El Plan de Aztlan". It comes up on several university web sites. Each one was in English and were the same as what Steve posted. It appears people are copying it. We should look for the original source. I also checked a couple of on-line Spanish and English dictionaries and can't find anything on the word "carnalismo".

John,

I believe this is the original document. My understanding that it was written (in the US) during the 60's.

It's the only form of the document I've been able to find.

The MEChAistas don't deny this document. Some may try to explain it away as something they don't take literally. But it does say what it says.

I'd also suggest that to get the best translation, you ask someone who not only speaks Spanish but knows the culture too --to get the most accurate translation.

OK, the document comes from this 1969 youth conference:

http://www.insearchofaztlan.com/1969.html

1969 DENVER YOUTH CONFERENCE

In March of 1969, Chicano activists leader Rodolfo "Corky" Gonzales convened a National Youth and Liberation Conference in Denver, Colorado. Approximately 1500 youths from throughout the United States attended the conference held at the Crusade For Justice. This was the first time, on such a large scale that a generation of Mexican American youth met to discuss common issues of oppression, discrimination and injustice. After much debate and discussion, the conference formulated a philosophy of cultural nationalism, calling for all Mexican Americans to unite under the banner of the term "Chicano" and calling for self-determination in all spheres of life.

The conference participants looked to the past of their indigenous ancestors and discovered that the Aztecs who settled in the Valley of Mexico and created the Aztec Empire had originated somewhere in the Southwestern United States in a place called "Aztlán". The youthful activism embraced the concept of Aztlán as their spiritual homeland and hammered out El Plan Espiritual De Aztlán as the "common denominator for mass mobilization and organization." Alurista, a Chicano poet, penned a "Preamble to the Plan Espiritual de Aztlán" which crystallized the spirit of the conference participants. During the conference, the participants marched to the Colorado state capital building, lowered the Colorado State Flag and flew the Mexican flag declaring Colorado "territorio liberado de Aztlán."

http://www.insearchofaztlan.com/preamble.html

In March of 1969, Chicano activists gathered at the Youth and Liberation Conference in Denver, Colorado and drafted the Program for El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán. Alurista, a Chicano poet from San Diego, California, wrote the following Preamble to the Plan Espiritual de Aztlán.

PREAMBLE TO THE PLAN ESPIRITUAL DE AZTLÃ

It appears to me that no one person wrote "El Plan de Aztlan" and based on when and where it was written, it more than likely was written in English and not Spanish.

I still can't figure out what "carnalismo" means......

John,

Thanks for the research. When I have time I'll solve the last mystery.

Steve

I think they are trying to say "carnality". Some of these chicanos speak more of a Spanglish than "Castellano" (which I heard you all discussing before, so you know what that is). There is a popular Mexican song that talks about "amor carnal" which translates as "carnal love" so I'm pretty sure that's what they are talking about with "carnalismo". How does it fit into the context? Does it work?