Thread: WE HAVE PROOF BUSH AIN'T ALL THERE IMPEACH!

Did I leave anyone out?

Yep the supreme court and all those miserable appointees Bush, Clinton and Bush have put in plus all the departments, homeland security in particular, several tenured professors, a few governors and perhaps even some mayors. Who the H knows how deep this goes.

Originally Posted by xanadu

Did I leave anyone out?

Yep the supreme court and all those miserable appointees Bush, Clinton and Bush have put in plus all the departments, homeland security in particular, several tenured professors, a few governors and perhaps even some mayors. Who the H knows how deep this goes.

You are very right, xanadu -- it does way deep!!!!!

I am a firm believer in the fact the "schtuff" rolls downhill. If you clean out the viper's nest at the top of any organization, it's like cutting off the head of a snake.

The "schtuff" keeps rolling downhill and takes a bunch of the "little" vipers with it. Unfortunately, you can never get rid of them all, but you can make a serious dent.

xanadu wrote:

As for impeaching him what would you accomplish? Look who would take his place.

Who throws the first impeachment stone should also be impeached. The dungrats think they will sieze this opportunity to further their party. They are just as bad and even worse than Jorge. Same pile. Americans must elect (seat, appoint or otherwise install) patriots not pompous, shifty, money-grubbing politicians.

If they impeach Bush (what I'm praying for) they have to impeach also Cheney, Then the next in line is the speaker of the
house , he seems to be a little more consistent , isn't he ?

Be careful to avoid reductionism. Just because our President is doing a crappy job doesn't mean that we don't have real enemies or that failures of the administration in one area make it a failure in all areas. The original idea of the War on Terror was a good one. The problem is that all the hand-wringing has seen the operation dialed back from a general declaration of war on all the Islamofascists to a peacekeeping operation in Ashcanistan and Iraq. We seem to have forgotten that Hezbollah is one of the most dangerous terror organizations on the planet, and that Iran is the driving force behind a large portion of global terrorism. We forget that when we had previous administrations handling terrorism with a combination of coddling and appeasement, we STILL had terrorism and an endless string of attacks against the US and Americans.

Also, the idea that EVERY event going on in the world is somehow contrived by the administration or some overarching group of conspirators as a subtext for some other goal is ludicrous. There is no need to fabricate crises in order to justify tyranny. The world always has had and always will have one crisis after another, one war after another, one plague after another. That a government or an institution is able to bend those events to their own devices is a given. The fact that it can be gotten away with again and again says less about the government or institution than it says about the populace that can so easily be duped.

Originally Posted by minnie

If they impeach Bish (what I'm praying for) they have to impeach also Cheney, Then the next in line is the speaker of the
house , he seems to be a little more concsient , isn't he ?

I have asked this before, but what "high crime" do you imagine that either man could be convicted of? Who do you think will take their places? Who do you see in the running for the 2008 race that is not equally corrupt?

Need I remind you that everything this administration is being accused of has been done by each of the last several administrations? On immigration, there was the Reagan amnesty and the Clinton Open-door policy that led to the current crisis. On abuse of rights, there was Reagan's mining of Nicaraguan harbors and Clinton's attempted Anti-Terrorism Act. On globalization, there have been a steady string of assaults on our sovereignty for at least a century, ranging from Wilson's League of Nations to FDR/Truman's UN to Clinton's NAFTA and GATT, and all sorts of other things in between.

These issues are not the result of the failings of a single administration, but rather an institutional problem that runs far deeper. After all, a President cannot write a law. He can only sign the laws that Congress passes. It's easy to make one person the embodiment of the Devil, but thta scarcely keeps the real Devil from sneaking up behind you while you cast stones at your own bogeyman.

Actually, I have no problem with impeachment.

However, I do think it is the American citizen's right to call for it - not the opposing partys.

From the Declaration of Independence:

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages (- read Hispanics in todays world), whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

Also, from the Declaration of Independence

He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Bush has signed "letters" on most bills excluding him from obeying what is in those bills.

I also complete agree that the rest of the

pompous, shifty, money-grubbing politicians.

have absolutely no business throwing stones for they certainly are no better.

Originally Posted by CheyenneWoman

Actually, I have no problem with impeachment.

However, I do think it is the American citizen's right to call for it - not the opposing partys.

From the Declaration of Independence:

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages (- read Hispanics in todays world), whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

Also, from the Declaration of Independence
[quote:3m7ymmcl]He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Bush has signed "letters" on most bills excluding him from obeying what is in those bills.

I also complete agree that the rest of the

pompous, shifty, money-grubbing politicians.

have absolutely no business throwing stones for they certainly are no better.[/quote:3m7ymmcl]
But the Declaration was a call for secession, not a list of criminal charges.

Very true, CrocketsGhost.

But, we have no place to secede to.

Now there's a thought!!

But, where would we secede to, and who is "pure" enough to lead us?

Oh, well, it was a thought!!

Originally Posted by CheyenneWoman

Very true, CrocketsGhost.

But, we have no place to secede to.

Now there's a thought!!

But, where would we secede to, and who is "pure" enough to lead us?

Oh, well, it was a thought!!

We don't need to "secede to" anywhere. We need to start locally and work up to the state level and extricate ourselves from the web in which we are entangled. That means that we need to stop voting for politicians and start voting for people. And we need to get Hugo Black's ludicrous "separation of church and state" out of our heads, because that poison concept has kept more moral men out of government than any other treachery. We need honest, loyal, patriotic, God-fearing Americans to lead us and we need to reject the alleged leadership of the snakes whose "service" to this country is nothing more than an excuse to loot the system and serve their globalist masters.

If you're in a leadership position in a small town, unicorporate the town. If you're involved in state government, get the feds out of state government and disentangle your state from the UCC and all that other crap from the law merchant. Press for amendments to restore your state constitution. Opt out of federal programs. Start a state bank that issues real money backed by gold or silver.

We are so badly hooked into the global mercantile system that extricating ourselves will be as painful as a junkie getting clean. But we have to keep working to convince our fellow Americans what has happened to us and to take our country back. We don't need to impeach the President. We need to fire him and his entire government and start again where the Founders started, but with a few more checks and balances.

Before any of this can happen, we need a sea change in the mindset of the American people. We need to divorce our children from political correctness, socialism, and all the other nonsense they were indoctrinated in at their public education facilities. We need to overcome the insidious conditioning we suffer at the hands of the mainstream media, be it their fearmongering, their pressing of fallacy as truth, and particularly their persistent ridiculing the remaining good and decent Americans as outmoded rubes. They block all discussion of the things that are really going on behind the scenes by labelling anyone who stumbles onto the truth as a "conspiracy nut." They mock those who adhere to the founding principles of this nation as a "radical fundamentalist" or worse. Unless we can overcome the pressure of ridicule and browbeating and not only move our own condition forward but start bringing other decent people over to the side of sanity, there is little point in discussing who is or is not fit to lead us, because we will continue not to be led, but ruled.