Thread: What Trump's Wall Says To The World

What Trump's wall says to the world



Posted By Patrick J. Buchanan On 01/26/2017


“Something there is that doesn’t love a wall,” wrote poet Robert Frost in the opening line of “Mending Walls.”And on the American left there is something like revulsion at the idea of the “beautiful wall” President Trump intends to build along the 1,900-mile border between the U.S. and Mexico.


The opposition’s arguments are usually rooted in economics or practicality. The wall is unnecessary. It will not stop people from coming illegally. It costs too much.
Yet something deeper is afoot here. The idea of a permanent barrier between our countries goes to the heart of the divide between our two Americas on the most fundamental of questions.

Who are we? What is a nation? What does America stand for?

Those desperate to see the wall built, illegal immigration halted and those here illegally deported see the country they grew up in as dying, disappearing, with something strange and foreign taking its place.

It is not only that illegal migrants take jobs from Americans, that they commit crimes, or that so many require subsidized food, welfare, housing, education and health care. It is that they are changing our country. They are changing who we are.

Two decades ago, the Old Right and the neocons engaged in a ferocious debate over what America was and is.
Were we from the beginning a new, unique, separate and identifiable people like the British, French and Germans?
Or was America a new kind of nation, an ideological nation, an invented nation, united by an acceptance of the ideas and ideals of Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln and Dr. King?


The Old Right contended that America existed even before the Revolution, and that this new nation, this new people, wrote its own birth certificate, the Constitution. Before Washington, Madison and Hamilton ever went to Philadelphia, America existed.


What forced the premature birth of the nation – was the Revolution.


We did not become a new nation because we embraced Jefferson’s notion about all men being “created equal.” We became a new people from our familial break with the Mother Country, described in the declaration as a severing of ties with our “brethren” across the sea who no longer deserved our loyalty or love.


The United States came into being in 1789. The Constitution created the government, the state. But the country already existed.


When the Irish came in the mid-19th century to escape the famine and the Germans to escape Bismarck’s Prussia, and the Italians, Jews, Poles, Greeks, Slovaks came to Ellis Island, they were foreigners who became citizens, and then, after a time, Americans.


Not until decades after the Great Migration of 1890-1920, with the common trials of the Depression, World War II and Cold War, were we truly forged again into one united nation and people.


By 1960, almost all of us shared the same heroes and holidays, spoke the same language and cherished the same culture.


What those with memories of that America see happening today is the disintegration of our nation of yesterday. The savagery of our politics, exemplified in the last election, testifies to how Americans are coming to detest one another as much as the Valley Forge generation came to detest the British from whom they broke free.


In 1960, we were a Western Christian country. Ninety percent of our people traced their roots to Europe. Ninety percent bore some connection to the Christian faith. To the tens of millions for whom Trump appeals, what the wall represents is our last chance to preserve that nation and people.


To many on the cosmopolitan left, ethnic or national identity is not only not worth fighting for, it is not even worth preserving. It is a form of atavistic tribalism or racism.


The Trump wall then touches on the great struggle of our age.


Given that 80 percent of all people of color vote Democratic, neither the Trump movement nor the Republican Party can survive the Third Worldization of the United States now written in the cards.


Moreover, with the disintegration of the nation we are seeing, and with talk of the breakup of states like Texas and secession of states like California, how do we survive as one nation and people?


Old Europe never knew mass immigration until the 20th century.

Now, across Europe, center-left and center-right parties are facing massive defections because they are perceived as incapable of coping with the existential threat of the age – the overrunning of the continent from Africa and the Middle East.


President Trump’s wall is a statement to the world: This is our country. We decide who comes here. And we will defend our borders.

The crisis of our time is not that some Americans are saying this, but that so many are too paralyzed to say it, or do not care, or embrace what is happening to their country.


http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/what-trumps-wall-says-to-the-world/

This is not Trumps Wall...it is American's Wall.

We finally have someone who is working FOR the people. This is a movement that will spread like wildfire across the Civilized world. It is already happening. Stop the New World Order, mass illegal migration, and destruction of our land, our culture and our economy.

We are sick and tired of being used, abused, lied to, and our compassion and generosity TRAMPLED on.

We want the Wall, we want the invasion stopped...all of it...and we want it NOW. We want all of the illegals and refugees deported, every single one of them.

WE are not the solution to YOUR problems. The gravy train is OVER. And Europe will soon find out that they too...will be building the Walls. Many countries already are.

Your failed experiment is over! Go fix your own damn country.

What a shame that we are forced to Wall off our country to criminal, illegally invading trespassers that only come to rape us of our hard earned freedom, peace and bring nothing but hate, violence and destruction of our neighborhoods.

Yes, we want the wall and many of us want to withdraw from NAFTA.

We want out of the UN, NAFTA, TPP, EU and NATO

Theresa May may have put words in Trump's mouth today that "he" supports NATO 100% but I do not believe this. Trump was caught on the spot. No Theresa May...we do not want NATO, you do because WE foot the bill.

He has said WE are not footing the bill, and no amount of money the rest of the countries are going to compensate for it. We are not spilling our blood and treasure to defend you...it is OVER. And the mission of NATO needs a complete overhaul. We do not want to fight that battle either with a bunch of brain dead globalists.

Get out of all of it.

Trump has never said he opposed NATO. His issue is the money and mission. He doesn't object to NATO, he objects to these wealthy countries refusing to pay their fair share of it. He wants to renegotiate the cost. Same with South Korea and Saudi Arabia. He also thinks they need to worry less about Russia and more about Terrorists. When asked, he said if NATO members won't pay their bills and carry more of the load, then we'll consider withdrawing, because we can't afford to keep this up.

Originally Posted by Judy

Trump has never said he opposed NATO. His issue is the money and mission. He doesn't object to NATO, he objects to these wealthy countries refusing to pay their fair share of it. He wants to renegotiate the cost. Same with South Korea and Saudi Arabia. He also thinks they need to worry less about Russia and more about Terrorists. When asked, he said if NATO members won't pay their bills and carry more of the load, then we'll consider withdrawing, because we can't afford to keep this up.

And I for one totally agree with him!! It's time for the rest of the world to grow up and take care of themselves instead of looking to the USA for a handout!!

We have thousands of US troops defending the border between North and South Korea when South Korea is much wealthier than North Korea and has twice the population of North Korea. South Korea is more than capable of defending their border. Why is it up to us?

Why do we have 35,000 US troops in Germany? 12,000 in Italy and 8,400 in the UK? 40,000 in Japan and 24,000 in South Korea? (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ry_deployments )

Why does the US pay for almost 1/4 of the entire amount of the UN's budget so tin-pot dictator nations can publicly denigrate us and call us evil, Satan, and act like we are the source of everything bad in the world!?!

Member state	Contribution (% of UN budget)
United States	22.000
Japan	9.680
China	7.921
Germany	6.389
France	4.859
United Kingdom	4.463
Brazil	3.823
Italy	3.748
Russia	3.088
Canada	2.921
Spain	2.443
Australia	2.337
South Korea	2.039
Netherlands	1.482
Mexico	1.435
Saudi Arabia	1.146
Switzerland	1.140
Other member states	19.086

(Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations#Funding )

Does anybody else see anything wrong with these pictures!?! This is BS, friggin' CRAZY and it NEEDS TO STOP NOW!!!

Well said, patbrunz!! Why, indeed? Because we have weak and stupid leaders who commit the lives of our troops and money we don't even have because they want to look like a big dog. Well, we've got a big dog now, a real one, who is going to straighten out all this BS. Trump said we'll defend you but you have to pay and focus more on modern issues and actual problems. Very simple.

HA! HA! Good one Nexmexican!