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    When extremists hijack the immigration debate...

    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artma...tremists.shtml


    I want a cigarette so badly after reading this one!... maybe not the best time to pick to quit. I will just call a random elected official and express my opinion maybe that will cure the craving! By the way, interesting that he doesn't find the suggestion of blanket amnesty to be an extremist and illogical position... Takes one to know one Jose! So nyah!


    Ain't This America. . .
    When extremists hijack the immigration debate
    By JOSE DE LA ISLA
    Apr 27, 2006, 05:51




    A friend of mine asked me, during the height of the pro-immigrant demonstrations, "So what's the problem? What does Mexico need? More jobs, huh?" He believes like most people that all you have to do is put salve on a sore spot. He wants a quick-fix answer.

    Ronald Reagan once said, "There are no easy answers, but there are simple ones." It's that kind of flashlight perspective that's needed now. Away from my Texas home, I am more concerned about how the U.S. presence of undocumented immigrants, as a public policy issue, got hijacked. It has been turned into something frightening, even before hard issues concerning future U.S.-Mexico relations are addressed seriously. Take, for instance, Minuteman co-founder Jim Gilchrist's scary threat to the Orange County Register: "I will not promote violence in resolving this, but I will not stop others who might pursue that."

    The Southern Poverty Law Center (www.splcenter.org) reports that elected U.S. officials were targets of death threats after the Senate Judiciary Committee backed President Bush's guestworker plan. Still other threats were made against the protesters and even Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

    Postings to a Yahoo user group called "Close Borders" advocate killing young, pro-immigration protesters. One nativist wants nuclear weapons to guard our border.

    Some of these agitators are linked to white-supremacist groups. Some insist there's a Latino "reconquista" conspiracy to take back the Southwest.

    You might say the above threats come from the nut and violent fringe. But consider that Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano just had to veto one bill that would have allowed local police to arrest migrants on "trespassing" charges and another measure to put more U.S. troops on the Mexican border by taking away the governor's "commander in chief" authority over the National Guard.

    Reporting on the spreading U.S. backlash, Mexico City media note a disappointment in the further erosion of the moral high ground the United States held previously. Hate acts and extreme measures are stealing the spotlight.

    Extremists are helping put the United States in the tradition of the Great Diaspora when Muslims and Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492; the Chinese Exclusion Act passed by the U.S. Congress in the late 19th century; and forced expulsions by the United States of "Mexicans," including many who were U.S. citizens, during the Great Depression in the 1930s.

    The "authoritarian personality" has re-emerged in U.S. public affairs, not from common sense but from "an emotional response," writes Alan Wolfe, director of the Boisi Center for Religion and American Public Life in Chestnut Hill, Mass. Such people "identify with the strong and are contemptuous of the weak."

    Because of relative prosperity and need for labor, U.S. businesses, weekend gardeners, carpenters, small contractors, and others have procreated a bastard in the family.

    What if we apply Reagan's "simple but not easy" answer to the undocumented immigrant issue and demonstrate the moral grit to take responsibility for our complicity? What if we make these workers and their families legitimate, not as a bad thing but a good one?

    For our own society's sake, it's important to come clean by denouncing extremist nuts. After that, we can address the "jobs" thing in Mexico.

    My friend listens to hard-right talk-radio as entertainment. There, hosts edge up ratings with inflammatory words about the weak. Somehow, the toxic information has invaded his discernment. He needs relief from their grip.


    (Jose de la Isla writes a weekly commentary for Hispanic Link News Service. He may be contacted by e-mail at joseisla3(at)yahoo.com.)

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    Zach,
    What I somtimes say when I am engaged in a discussion and someone uses the E word in reference to the position of
    DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS
    USE THE MILITARY TO SEAL OUR BORDER
    IMPEACH TREASONOUS PRESIDENT BUSH
    I simply say, "Compared to someone with no vertebrae, simply having one vertebra makes one an extremist."

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    Some insist there's a Latino "reconquista" conspir

    Well, yeah! This is where the News media is criminal, NOT telling the truth.

    Dixie posted this this AM. Maybe ALL of us should send it to the writer, above. He does show an email address!

    ************************************************** *****

    Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:45 am Post subject: Si Se Puede Socalist/Communist Take Over America

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    You may copy this and pass it all over the place.

    Watch the first Video, it's the education you need to understand the others.
    Then pick any of the following videos or go look for your own May 1st March videos and pictures on the net.
    Watch for the red flags, shirts and hats and the yellow signs and over-shirts ANSWER wears.
    Listen for the Si Se Puede (sounds like Ce Ce Puedes) Chants

    If you are not convinced we have a problem in America with Illegal Aliens. Then you are beyond help.

    Send this to anybody that thinks it's OK for Illegal Immigrats to come into this country and demand Amnesty. We give them Amnesty our problems are only just beginning.

    There are many videos on the net, from all over America just like this.
    http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/unodemayo/

    Including Videos by protesters themselves.

    Chicago May 1st - They are chanting Si Se Puede and waving red communist flags.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhezgpE ... ch=protest

    New York City May 1st - They are chanting Si Se Puede See the red flags?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJmjiVIW ... ch=May%201

    May 1, 2006 in Santa Rosa, California - The march from Roseland to Downtown. Estimate between 8,000 to 12,000 people
    See the red hats and ANSWER Yellow over-shirts. 2 minuites into the protest you see the truth.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKbC2Kg6 ... ch=May%201

    Los Angeles May 1st Boycott March Chanting Si Se Puede
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26MNt4E ... ch=May%201

    This may be in Mexico, where they can not afford flags. Chanting Si Se Puede
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNaNsLtD ... ch=May%201

    Immigration Protest San Ysidro May 1 La Raza Protest Chanting Si Se Puede
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpR-V6NZ ... ch=May%201

    You can hear this chant in many of the Protest March Videos.

    Search them out for yourself. We have been invaded by Latin Socialist and Communist in some cases. We should be concerned about an army that is 20 million illegal immigrants plus US supporters strong and within our borders.

    Some of the March sponsors:

    ANSWER - Demands Amnesty and Full rights for Immigrants
    http://www.internationalanswer.org/

    LULAC read their Platform. Yes, like Party Platform
    http://www.lulac.org/advocacy/platform.html

    MECha - Look at the universities they have already overrun. They have established a constitution.
    http://www.berkeleymecha.org/main/ Click on documents. It will make you vomit.

    La Raza - This is one of the worst of the worst. Provisional government and has said to take up arms and kill the gringo.
    http://www.nclr.org/

    The words of Jose Gutierrez a La Raza supporter
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd180.htm

    Reconquista - Mexico want CA, TX, AZ, NM back!
    http://www.barnesreview.org/The__Reconq ... s_dre.html

    WHAT IN THE HECK IS WRONG WITH OUR PRESIDENT?
    5 YEAR OLD KIDS CAN COMPREHEND PICTURE BOOKS.
    WHY CAN'T HE SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

    Instead he threw a Cinco De Mayo celebration at the White House on Friday.
    He continued to say we open our arms to all immigrants and guest worker programs... OMG he is selling us out!!!!!!!!! To our "friends and good neighbors" in Mexico....
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-26174.html
    Translated right off the Spanish link on the White House Website.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... -9.es.html

    CIA Director resigned. Most likely because Bush wasn't listening to him and he didn't want to become a scapegoat.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194435,00.html

    We are in trouble and Bush is sitting on his hands.
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    "To sin by silence, when they should protest, makes cowards of men."
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    TIME'S UP!
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    Why should <u>only</u> AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, have to obey the law?!

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    I have a newfound respect for Cavuto. Glad he is sticking his prodigious head and neck out there for the cause. Reported on his show too that there is sucpicion the Border Patrol are tipping off the Mexican gov about the MM locations!! treason. simple as that.

    Illegal Immigration Debate: Only in America

    Tuesday , May 02, 2006

    By Neil Cavuto




    Only in America can thousands of illegal immigrants protest quite legally.

    Only in America can they demand things of a system that really doesn't owe them anything.

    Only in America can the media go along with their pleas and say nothing of their demands.

    Only in America can those who snuck into this country try to threaten this country.

    Only in America can they try to stop commerce to force their way into our commerce.

    Only in America can the kindness of our hearts blind us to the stupidity of our policies — policies that support those who break the law and make a mockery of those who try to follow the law.

    Only in America can we tell those who entered here by the books that there are special allowances made for those who do everything off the books. That it's OK to threaten and coerce, strike and shout, wave flags that aren't this country's and remind us of the great pride they have in other countries.

    Some in the media say it's simplistic to say if you don't like it here, get out of here. Let me just say it's insulting that those who enjoy bounty here have the nerve to say they're offended here.

    I feel for their ego. I feel more for us.

    Click here to order your signed copy of Neil's book, "Your Money or Your Life."

    Watch Neil Cavuto weekdays at 4 p.m. ET on "Your World with Cavuto" and send your comments to cavuto@foxnews.com
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