Thread: WHO, WHEN, WHERE, HOW and WHY "they" did it - now

Originally Posted by WavTek

This is all very interesting and a lot of it is probably true, but it distracts us from our primary mission of securing our borders and eliminating illegal immigration. In fact, by accomplishing our primary goals, we will help defeat the grander plan of a North American superstate, so let's concentrate on one war at a time and not open a second front, at least until this battle is won.

I would say that understanding the motivations for federal inaction on our issue will help in understanding how to deal with it, but that's just me.

Crocket - I am with you, people need to know what is behind this push to bring in illegals in massive numbers.

When I first became aware of the lack of security at our borders and the massive illegal alien problem we had I was just plain angry and that carried me for a while.

After the anger backed off a little bit I started to question why. Why is the government not securing our borders? Why is our government going to grant amnesty to criminals? Why is the government not deporting illegals, especially illegals who commit crimes after their initial crime of crossing the border? Why is the government not penalizing employers who hire illegals and pay them under the table? Why is the government allowing massive identity theft by illegals? etc.

I think it is the natural course for people to wonder WHY is all this happening. This is much bigger than the illegal aliens alone and we need to realize that.

The borders must be secured and illegal crossings stopped and the illegals within our borders dealt with. I believe it would be a huge blow to the much larger plan behind all this. But is only one aspect of the problem.

I agree. It's been my experience that you simply cannot overwhelm people with layers upon layers of facts. Even though we are aware that the illegal immigration issue is just the tip of the iceberg of the new world order agenda.

We have to focus on the illegal immigration first. But as more people become educated, they will discover what else is going on. Just like all of us have.

I recently attended a family event and the illegal immigration issue was brought up. I didn't go into enormous specifics, but I did mention that the reason why Bush has refused to protect our borders, is because of the plan to integrate us with Canada and Mexico. It came as a shock to people, but at the same time it also made perfect sense to them. As if it were the missing piece to the puzzle. I wrote down some web site addresses (including alipac), and told them to educate themselves and tell others. Once they become more involved, they'll find out about the new world order aganda as well. But as I said before, you have to do it a little at a time.

it distracts us from our primary mission

- not true.

To win a battle you must know the enemie. Most people believe that this is simply an issue of immigration, if in fact it where, it would have been resolved by changing immigration policies. As we have all seen, this has not been possible. Those who promote continuing, or increasing what is already the largest number of immigrants allowed into this country in history, defend their actions and conceal the truth with well thought out illogical arguments. As we have seen, it is not possible to win an illogical argument.

If their true intentions were known, more people would oppose their actions. Americans need to know that this is not simply a matter of retail stores wanting to hire cheap, illegal employees. Americans need to understand that the current practice of government secrecy is unwarranted and that this is part of an ongoing effort to eliminate the United States, and to eliminate the remaining freedom that we have.

If more Americans understood the true agenda of La Raza and MEChA, the agenda which our media and the politicians who support them are concealing from the public, as well as the motives behind it. They would realize that this about their future, their property, their freedom, and their lives.


"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

- President Dwight Eisenhower



"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it."

- President John F. Kennedy



"You Americans are so gullible. You won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism."

- Soviet Dictator Nikita Khrushchev (1959)

wow this certainly evolved into an informative thread.

First welcome Brian! Its very good to hear Australia's views on this. I wish there were more nations represented here because although it is our borders we are fighting to secure... it is our borders that will affect the rest of the world.

Crocket I am with you. If you don't know who and how the enemy works you will not conquer the problem.

Well researched Skid Thanks

It is just my opinion but I think you have to know how the game is played and this thread is extremely important and informative and it is not a pzillion pages to read

The borders are the alarm. The People have a right to know if its a fire or a flood they are dealing with. I think they have a hint about NAFTA and GATT and the rest of them but I think the SPP and the Creating a North American Community will be the straw that gets them on their feet and moving. The more people know what is going on in the background the better prepared they are to deal with. And deal with it we will if November does not produce a climate in Washington that reflects the will of the people.