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    Why does Ron Paul have a big fat "F" at NumbersUSA

    I've been here a year and no one here has ever told me why NumbersUSA gave Ron Paul a big fat "F" for a grade?

    I hear people piss and moan about the grades other candidates receive from numbersUSA, "He has a "C" she has a "D" Odrama has a big fat "F-" and Paul is right next to him with a big fat "F" too!

    A big fat "F" wouldn't bother me so much if it was for say "Personal Hygiene" or something like that but this is for the whole "Enchilada!"

    Hell if anybody we should be cheering on Mrs. Bachmann!
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    I personally oppose his stand on guestworker visas, but I don't think that's it. Don't they have an explanatory chart or something? I thought they did.
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    Yeah! it's right here! I mean come on at least show support for somebody with a C or B.
    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/node/11556
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    Ron Paul on Immigration

    Data banks for illegal aliens keep track of us too. (Sep 2011)
    Pay attention to US borders, not international borders. (Aug 2011)
    Let churches provide services for immigrants, not state. (Jun 2011)

    Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk. (Apr 2011)

    Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen. (Apr 2011)


    If economy were good, there’d be no immigration problem. (Dec 2007)
    Amend Constitution to remove aliens’ birthright citizenship. (Dec 2007)
    Those who attack bilingualism are jealous & feel inferior. (Dec 2007)
    No amnesty, but impractical to round up 12 million illegals. (Sep 2007)
    Immigration problem is consequence of welfare state. (Sep 2007)
    No amnesty, but border fence isn’t so important. (Jun 2007)
    We subsidize illegal immigration, so we get more. (Jun 2007)
    Keep rule barring immigrants from running for president. (May 2007)
    End all incentives and amnesty for illegal immigrants. (Jan 2006)
    Voted YES on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
    Voted YES on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
    Voted YES on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
    Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
    Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
    Sponsored bill banning student visas from terrorist nations. (Jan 2003)
    Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)
    Rated 83% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance. (Dec 2006)
    Government services in English only. (Mar 2008)
    Rated C by the ALI, indicating an acceptably anti-amnesty stance. (Nov 2010)
    Declare English as the official language of the US. (Feb 2007)

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    Looks like La Raza wore Ol' Ron down don't it!
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    Bachmann B-
    Romney C-
    Cain C-
    Perry D-
    Huntsman D-
    Gingrich D-
    Santorum F
    Johnson F
    Paul F
    Obama F-

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    Bachmann B-
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    Back when NumbersUSA was taking a lot of heat from Ron Paul supporters for downgrading him, I looked into their claims and they were legitimate and Ron Paul was a stinker.

    What made it personally offensive to me was that much of what Ron Paul was saying was contrary to what he told me when I interviewed him in Des Moines in 2008.

    Had planned to put out an email reinforcing NumbersUSA but it was one of those important things that did not happen due to stretched time and resources.

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    Well crap roofer, I'm just a graduate of the school of hard knocks and dumb (blanks) but I find it hard to believe Ron Paul wants anything but federal laws enforced. He's against state immigration laws because the Federal government should be doing the job. So states enacting immigration laws already on the books is redundant. Sooo he doesn't support states having to do the job of federal government. Thats my take on it. Numbers and others have their opinion of what he stands for, says, and votes for and against. But there is a reason behind every constitutionally motivated politician's votes. Usually they are right. In my opinion.
    If the states don't HAVE to enforce immigration laws and the federal government does. Who wins?
    Then what I see is, if the Fed has no prostitution, or drug laws to enforce. The states can and will take that up as it is a states right. He just sees priorities and corruption that a big federal government has created and it is all BASS AKWARDS. Now thats my take on him. I think I can say it in a way he and his idiot minions won't or don't. I could be wrong!

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