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    Jared Loughner . . .
    In a bizarre equation that Loughner appears to mean as example of deductive reasoning, he concludes that "the police are unconstitutional." . . .

    In yet another rant verging on the paranoid, he says:
    “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.â€
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    Arizona sheriff: Suspect may not have acted alone
    updated 3 minutes ago

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    2nd "Person of interst" sought in AZ. shooting

    [Updated at 7:21 p.m. ET] Jared Lee Loughner, the suspect, had a limited presence on social-media sites, including YouTube and MySpace. Here's a sampling of some of the messages that CNN found on Loughner's pages:

    MySpace

    December 26, 2010: I'm not going to change the mistakes, you don't know – funny! (I think the CIA watches my-space)

    December 30, 2010: I now understand a certain word - Cult!

    YouTube

    December 15, 2010: If I define terrorist then a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon.

    I define terrorist.

    Thus a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially
    as a political weapon.

    If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

    You call me a terrorist.

    Thus the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

    December 15, 2010: The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America's Constitution.

    You don't have to accept the federalist laws.

    Nonetheless, read the United States of America's Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws.


    You're literate, listener?

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/08/se ... cial-says/

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    What bothers me about the whole thing is that nothing was done to prevent this. After 9-11 they created fusion centers which would keep tabs on people and there were places people could phone and report lunatics like him. The college knew he was a troubled person from his videos.
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    Just registered, new user. This is absolutely terrible.

    Concentration was on the primary victim, but many others are gone. The judge was mentioned--- but isn't he the one who was involved in the Maldef case against Barnett? (Vincinte v Barnett). A 32 million dollar law suit against a rancher?

    Just read some of theyoutube: Some of the things on t.v. seem misquotes. Like the young man saying he couldn't abide by the constitution due to its ramifications, but in the youtubes, it said ratification, (b/c he was talking about gold, silver, currency, elsewhere debt etc., he may have meant the 16th amendment. Elsewhere he says he won't pay debts.

    When he talks about the "ad hominen" definition of terror, it seemed to suggest that he was trying to say "terrorist" is whatever the definer says it is, or maybe that the term is relative to one's enemies, kind of thing.

    When he says he thinks the "government" is implying brainwash... he may have meant "applying" rather than "implying" ---he was a 22 yo student

    Just a guess???

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    Giffords' Shooter Anti-Christian, Paper Dollar Conspiricist

    ...Jan 8, 2011 ... This lunatic talks about a “new currency,â€
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    Shooting Victims' Names Released

    The deceased have been identified as: Judge John Roll ,63; Dorthy Murray, 76; Dorwin Stoddard, 76; Christina Greene, 9; Phyllis Scheck, 79; and Gabriel Zimmerman, 30 . . .

    http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/cr ... d-01082011

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    UPDATE: school classmates and former friends describe shooter Jared Lee Loughner as committed Leftist
    from this link: http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congr ... pt-on-her/

    However, I agree with Betsy's posting, sounds like no matter what he leaned towards, he was ceetainly mentally ill. He fixated on Gifford, maybe just because she was the representative of his district, nothing more.

    The left wants to pin this directly on any conservative figure, and any conservative group, it is in their nature to want to smear anyone they oppose, even if the person who initiated the event was simply psychotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    Quote Originally Posted by tinybobidaho
    Fox News says the shooter is Jerod Lautner, a 22 year old white male, Afghan war vet.
    ok we need verification on that, links, and name spelling check. Right now Google is only showing THIS POST when one searches on "Jerod Lautner"

    Be careful with your info here folks.

    We need sourcing, links, etc...

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    He was denied entry Into the armed forces....

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    Quote Originally Posted by swatchick
    What bothers me about the whole thing is that nothing was done to prevent this. After 9-11 they created fusion centers which would keep tabs on people and there were places people could phone and report lunatics like him . . .
    I see worse stuff than what he posted all over the internet all day every day.
    If we locked all of them up we'd have half the country locked up.
    And then we couldn't be sure who should be the inmates and who should have the key.
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