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    You’re going to create ‘one great big death panel’ by repealing Obamacare

    Iowa pig farmer to Sen. Grassley: You’re going to create ‘one great big death panel’ by repealing Obamacare

    Dylan Stableford Senior Editor
    Yahoo News February 22, 2017
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    Farmer Chris Peterson pleads with Sen. Chuck Grassley in Iowa on Tuesday. (MSNBC) More

    Republican lawmakers returning home this week to host town halls are being greeted by overflow crowds filled with angry voters and protesters demonstrating against President Trump’s polarizing policies.


    And in Iowa on Tuesday, Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley faced harsh questioning from his constituents, including a 62-year-old pig farmer who pleaded with Grassley not to repeal the Affordable Care Act.


    “I’m on Obamacare,” Chris Peterson told Grassley in Iowa Falls, where more than 100 people packed a community center. “If it wasn’t for Obamacare, we wouldn’t be able to afford insurance.”





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    During a 2009 town hall in the Hawkeye State, Grassley led the fight against the Democrats’ health care proposal, saying the plan had an “end of life” provision that would allow the federal government “to decide when to pull the plug on Grandma.”

    Peterson told Grassley on Tuesday, “Over 20 million will lose coverage. And with all due respect, sir, you’re the man that talked about the death panels.

    We’re going to create one great big death panel in this country [because of the fact] that people can’t afford to get insurance.”


    “Don’t repeal Obamacare,” Peterson added. “Improve it, for God’s sake.”

    Related: ‘Do your job!’: Rowdy Republican town halls a sign of things to come

    Grassley responded by saying he believes no one receiving health care under Obamacare would lose coverage under three of the four Republican alternative health care plans circulating on Capitol Hill.


    Trump and the GOP have vowed to repeal and replace former President Barack Obama’s signature health care law. Earlier this month, Trump suggested it may take more than a year to do so, though Republicans on Capitol Hill have suggested it’s the No. 1 action item on their agenda.


    On Tuesday night, Trump criticized the town hall unrest, claiming the “so-called angry crowds” were organized by progressive activists.


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    “The so-called angry crowds in home districts of some Republicans are actually, in numerous cases, planned out by liberal activists,” Trump tweeted. “Sad!”

    Amid the backlash, some GOP members of Congress have canceled or skipped their town halls altogether.


    Earlier Tuesday, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said that town hall demonstrations have not been grassroots efforts, likening them instead to “AstroTurf.”

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    One good thing about these raucous town halls is to make sure Republicans know that they MUST have a replacement bill. This repeal replace later won't fly, not at all, and anyone pushing that is just wrong-headed. Republicans have had many years to come up with a plan to fix this problem so it's show time. GET R DONE. I think Price and Trump will be instrumental in coming up with a better system, not sure the Congresscritters are qualified to do this on their own. Keep in mind that what works in a vibrant economy with fully employed Americans doesn't work before you get there. Things we could do and would want to do can't be fully implemented on a private basis until every one of those 94 million working age Americans who want and need jobs have good sustainable full-time employment.

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    I have absolutely no problem seeing Obamacare repealed without a replacement. Yes, I'm suggesting the majority of Americans were better off before the plan came into being. Repeal it, get it out of there now, and work on reducing medical care cost with individual mandates. We can start with bringing the costs of drugs down. The Affordable Care Act is not affordable for tens of millions of American citizens.

    Why should a healthy insurance holder see his insurance increase dramatically to care for those with preexisting conditions, especially when many of these preexisting conditions were brought on by poor health choices in life (smoking, obesity, alcoholism, etc.). Yes, many folks are being punished for the lifestyle choices of others.

    It's no secret that Obamacare in its current form is unsustainable. With or without a replacement, repeal it now.

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    Just curious. Do you have government insurance or do you buy private insurance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Just curious. Do you have government insurance or do you buy private insurance?
    How is that relevant to the discussion? Why not ask about my wife's health plan or my seven adult children and their family plans?

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    Because you said this:

    Why should a healthy insurance holder see his insurance increase dramatically to care for those with preexisting conditions, especially when many of these preexisting conditions were brought on by poor health choices in life (smoking, obesity, alcoholism, etc.). Yes, many folks are being punished for the lifestyle choices of others.
    I'm not interested in your wife or your kids or grandkids. They didn't make the statement, you did.

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