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    Subtitle C - Cooperation With the Government of Mexico

    Sec 123 (b) Cooperation Regarding Education On Immigration Laws
    - US Sec of State to cooperate with Mexican officials to help educate citizens/nationals of Mexico about eligibility status and to help ensure they are not exploited while working in the US.

    Isn't this the job of the Mexican government?
    HOW ABOUT CANANDIAN CITIZENS IN THE US???

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    Subtitle C - Cooperation With the Government of Mexico
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    Sec 123 (d) Consultation Requirement

    Multi-faceted cooperation/coordination with government of Mexico on issues related to border security, especially on building of structures, etc (eg. building the fence!)
    ** Re-READ these 2 sections guys!
    This is unbelievably sneaky and flies in the face with our U.S. SOVEREIGNTY
    > please post whatever else you feel is important from these sections so that we can use it in our Communications to the House & Senate.
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    AmericanElizabeth wrote:

    This is ridiculous, a bill just for one lawbreaker! Well it is definitely time to start taking note of all the traitors and start making sure they do not have a job come voting time.
    Absolutely, and the list will be long, but they need to Go! They do not have America's best interest in mind and need to be shown that their disloyalty will NOT be tolerated

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    To download a PDF copy of H.R.1645 "The Strive Act of 2007" go here:

    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin ... ih.txt.pdf

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    Everything is focused on Mexico. What about "educating" all the other nations where illegals come from? Why would we ever consider consulting Mexico about security?? What the hell do they know about security in that corrupt hell hole?? Hooking up with Mexico is like a Wall Streeter marrying a street prostitute that's also a drug addict, thief and a child molester.

    TOP TEN REASONS WE SHOULDN'T MARRY MEXICO

    http://www.vdare.com/walker/070117_top_ten.htm

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    WE MUST say NO LOUDLY to a political marriage between America and Mexico. This is all greed based!! We have not protested loudly enough, long enough and that is why our government thinks we can forced to accept this. Our numbers are great, our voice can be VERY LOUD. We must make our desire to be heard greater than their desire to silence us and force us into submission! WE CAN DO THIS!

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    April: yeah, you got that right...

    Anybody else reading through the bill?

    Here's another nugget I noticed:


    Subtitle H - Safe and Secure Detention

    Pg 107 - Sec 177 Secure Alternatives Program

    "Improved" ability for persons being held in Federal detention to be released prior to determination of case - with [supposed] improved ability to track people in the interim. New program: Intensive Supervision Appearance Program (ISAP)

    Why? - Do we need more absconders???
    Stronger detention requirements are needed - not looser ones!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowman
    I noticed this part:

    TITLE II--INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT
    Subtitle A--Reducing the Number of Illegal Aliens in the United States
    Where are the PC police?! The US government and all the Hispanics who wrote this bill call them illegal aliens!!

    So why doesn't our media? Oh that's right, it's controlled by Billionaire Globalists, the same people who are behind this bill!
    I'm glad Bowman caught this little factoid. One thing I noticed as I've been reading through it, is the proper use of the term 'illegal alien' throughout the bill - as it has on all bills prior to this in US law.

    Apparently, either the bill's authors or the Reps that had some say in defining the language KNOW VERY WELL the difference of using 'illegal alien' in the text of law and saying 'undocumented immigrant' in a public context for mass consumption [for certain groups of people].
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    2ndamendsis wrote:


    Let's keep unraveling this monsterous piece of refuse and throw it right back at them, one FACT at a time.

    They can squirm, they can wiggle........but they're NOT getting away from our grip this time One FACT at a time


    You got that right Sis, the more a person reads this refuse the angrier one gets! It is a load of ! How dare they think the American public is going to just stand by and let this happen!

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    UNDER GUTIERREZ/FLAKE:
    Analysis By Rosemary Jenks, NumbersUSA Director of Government Relations

    Every illegal alien who could produce marginally plausible
    “evidence” that he/she had been illegally present in the United
    States since June 1, 2006, would get amnesty and be put on the
    path to US citizenship.
    In exchange for the highest honor our country has to bestow,
    the illegal alien would have to pay $2,000, pass a criminal record
    check, pay at least some of any income taxes he/she had chosen
    not to pay while working illegally, and learn some English. The
    already overburdened and error-prone U.S. Citizenship and
    Immigration Services (USCIS) would be responsible for ensuring
    that applicants meet these criteria and for handing out temporary
    visas and work permits to 2-plus million illegal aliens.
    After the no-longer‐illegal aliens had been in temporary status
    for six years, USCIS would issue green cards to those who had
    learned passable English and, in the case of some heads of
    household, had traveled outside the United States (to any other
    country, not necessarily their own) for a short time. Single heads
    of household, children, the elderly, business owners, and those in
    the military would be exempt from the travel requirement. (Any
    criminals and terrorists whose fingerprints were not yet on file with
    the FBI would then have official documents in whateve name they
    chose to provide USCIS during the first phase of the amnesty.)
    Lest any illegals be left out of the general amnesty, the
    bill includes two others for which they could qualify: the AgJOBS
    amnesty for those claiming to have performed agricultural work in
    the United States (the fraud rate for a similar amnesty in 1986 is
    estimated at 70% and resulted in at least one of the 1993 World
    Trade Center bombers getting a green card, which he used to fly
    to Afghanistan for terrorist training) and the DREAM Act amnesty for
    those who received a US taxpayer-funded high school diploma or an equivalent.
    To ensure a constant flow of cheap labor into the United
    States, the bill would create a worker importation program for an
    additional 400,000 foreign “guest” workers each year, all of whom
    would be given the choice to stay permanently, as long as they
    weren’t caught committing a crime or terrorist act before they applied. DHS would have to certify that it is capable of verifying
    workers’ legal status before this new program could take effect.
    As a bone to lawmakers who believe that the laws they pass should actually be enforced, the bill would mandate that all employers eventually verify the legal status of their workforce and it would increase penalties for those who fail to do so. It would also authorize an increase in the number of border enforcement
    personnel and in enforcement technology.
    Finally, as icing on this rich enforcement cake, the bill would create a “North American security perimeter” that would establish Mexico as our first—and only—line of defense against any security threat from the south.

    http://morningglory2.wordpress.com/2007 ... rrezflake/

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    Lord but don't I feel just plum SECURE knowing that this toilet paper is the recommended IMMIGRATION REFORM by Congress!!!

    Don't you?

    Looking forward to feeding it to them one piece at a time

    ENFORCE THE LAW cause this is going to be FLUSHED
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