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    INITIATIVE WILL SAVE CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS $1 BILLION ANNUALLY

    CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER PROTECTION ACT of 2010

    Border control by stopping the magnets

    PETITIONS READY FOR SIGNATURES IN JUNE 2009!!!

    Sponsored by TAXPAYER REVOLUTION


    The statewide ballot initiative will save the taxpayers over $1 Billion annually per the state's Dept of Finance.

    The laws will:

    REQUIRE issuance of the official "CALIFORNIA BIRTH CERTIFICATE" for births to ONLY citizens and permanent legal residents pursuant to the original intent of the 14th Amendment.

    Birth to foreign parent document issued to all others; that mother required to pay an additional fee, submit photographs, fingerprints, provide means of support and full identity, all to be provided to Homeland Security.

    STOP 18 years of WELFARE payments that are now direct deposited into illegal aliens' bank accounts for their children.
    Child-only CalWORKS (welfare)is not a federally mandated program and the state can terminate it.

    ALLOW only CITIZENS and QUALIFIED LEGAL ALIENSeligibility for all public funded benafits.
    Ends non-emergency, pre-natal and all public benefits to illegal aliens.
    The text of this law is already upheld in federal court.

    The initiative is supported by Reps. Dana Rohrabacher and Brian Bilbray; State Senator Tom Harman, former State Senators Bill Morrow and Larry Stirling, Ward Connerly, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Peter Nunez ,You Don't Speak For Me, Veterans for Secure Borders, and more.

    There will be petitions at 500 California American Legion posts, Numbers USA has alerted 200,000.

    There are over 2,500 volunteers to obtain signatures, and over 7,000 donors to the campaign.

    This political movement will launch the national debate needed to bring an end to "birth tourism" and automatic citizenship in the United States of America.

    Petition drive: JUNE 2009 - Ballot: JUNE 2010

    Web: taxpayerrevolution.org to donate on-line, or by mail: TAXPAYER REVOLUTION, P.O. BOX 9985, SAN DIEGO, CA 92169

    To endorse, email: voter@taxpaverrevolution.org
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    You will be able to print out the petitions from their web site in June 2009.
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    If Obama was serious about stopping Illegal Immigration he would instruct Congress to pass a law like this initiative in CA.

    I hope other states pass similar laws,since they seem to be willing to do the jobs our Congress will not do.
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    Stopping birthright citizenship is the single most important step this country can take to end this invasion. When they talk about not deporting illegals who have dependent children, they're talking about most of the illegals!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattiecat
    Stopping birthright citizenship is the single most important step this country can take to end this invasion. When they talk about not deporting illegals who have dependent children, they're talking about most of the illegals!
    I couldn't agree more. And never forget that Huckabee shamelessly pandered to illegal aliens when he was governor of Arkansas. IMO, he changes positions as often as he grins like a fool. One of his last acts as governor was to facilitate a multi-state Mexican Consulate in Little Rock at the taxpayers' expense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Moritz, The Northwest Arkansas Morning News (click banner below)

    Home For Mexican Consulate In Little Rock Set To Open
    Rob Moritz, The Morning News, Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:57 PM CDT in News

    LITTLE ROCK -- A grand opening is planned for Arkansas' new Mexican Consulate this week amid fanfare by supporters pushing economic prospects and protest by an opponent who warns of a surge of illegal immigrants into the state.

    Mexican food and entertainment will highlight the grand opening Wednesday at the consulate office, housed in a former ice cream parlor across from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock.

    About 300 state and local dignitaries are expected to attend the festivities, which also will include the signing of an official sister cities agreement between Little Rock and Pachuca in the Mexican state of Hidalgo, event coordinator Liliana Olea said.

    Meanwhile, immigration opponent Joe McCutcheon of Fort Smith said he planned to air radio advertisements opposing the consulate, beginning today.

    Supporters say the consulate will help thousands of Mexican immigrants living in Arkansas who now must travel to Dallas, Kansas City and Atlanta for assistance. It is to house about a dozen employees.

    Gov. Mike Beebe also emphasized the business contacts the consulate could facilitate.

    "Any time you have a foreign government that chooses your city for a location, it's potentially an economic boost, it's certainly a cultural boost and it certainly allows interaction between people that have a kinship to whatever country that might be," Beebe said Friday.

    Beebe said he would be out of town Wednesday and unable to attend the opening ceremonies. Lt. Gov. Bill Halter is expected to attend.

    The Mexican consul for Arkansas, Andres Chao, who formerly worked in the consulate office in New York, did not return calls seeking comment.

    Supporters say the consulate not only will provide Arkansas businesses with access to Mexico and opportunities to expand their markets, but also will help to ensure that immigrants from Mexico are in the state legally.

    The idea of establishing a Mexican consulate in Arkansas was first discussed by former Gov. Mike Huckabee after his trip to Mexico City in 2003.

    Last year, Huckabee struck a deal with Mexican officials to house the consular office in a state agency office for $1 a year while the consulate facilities were being refurbished. At the time, some lawmakers complained the governor made the deal without notifying the Legislature.

    McCutcheon, whose anti-immigration activism has landed him on a civil rights group's watch list, said Friday his radio ads opposing the consulate would run through Wednesday on several Arkansas radio stations in Little Rock and western Arkansas.

    He contended the consulate would lead to relaxed immigration laws and open the door to more illegal immigrants, an influx he said would hurt employment opportunities for middle-class Arkansans.

    Arkansas has one of the fastest-growing Hispanic populations in the country and more than half of Hispanic immigrants live in the state illegally, according to a recent study commissioned by the Winthrop Rockefeller Foundation.

    Another study, by the Pew Hispanic Center, estimated that as many as 50,000 immigrants lived in Arkansas in 2005.

    The Rockefeller study suggested cheap immigrant labor fuels the economic engine for the state's poultry and meat processing industry and that production would slide and costs would rise significantly without it.

    McCutcheon said last week that he did not know if anti-immigration protesters would demonstrate during the consulate grand opening, though several anti-immigration Web sites posted announcements that protesters would attend the event.

    McCutcheon and his wife, Barbara, have in the past helped guard the U.S.-Mexican border as part of the Minuteman Project.

    Last year, the Southern Poverty Law Center in Atlanta labeled McCutcheon a "nativist," or one who thinks immigrants cannot be Americans. A spokesman for the center recently characterized his views as "racist" and "anti-Semitic."

    McCutcheon said Friday he is not affiliated with any groups and was mounting the radio advertising campaign on his own. Source (click here)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome R. Corsi, World Net Daily (click banner below)

    Legality of Huckabee's Mexican consulate deal questioned
    Critics say Arkansas citizens, businesses financed office to draw illegal workers

    Jerome R. Corsi, November 01, 2007, 1:00 am Eastern

    Financial inducements arranged by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee to establish a Mexican consular office in Little Rock may have violated state law, according to an Arkansas attorney.

    As WND reported yesterday, critics in Arkansas charge Huckabee, who lately has enjoyed a surge in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, worked with some of the state's most prominent and politically powerful businesses to establish the consulate as a magnet for drawing illegal immigrants to the state to accept low-paying jobs.

    Huckabee, in an interview with WND, strongly denied the allegations.

    Arkansas attorney Chip Sexton provided WND a written legal brief arguing the state government's sublease to Mexico of office space for the consulate was illegal under Arkansas law. Sexton contended the deal raised questions about the appropriateness of private citizens and corporations in Arkansas providing financial incentives for the government of Mexico to locate a consulate office in Little Rock.

    "This arrangement to bring a Mexican consulate to Little Rock and the manner in which it occurred amounts to a 'consul-gate,'" Sexton told WND. "I'm an Arkansas citizen, why doesn't the state lease me some property and furniture for $1 per year?"

    Robert Trevino, commissioner of Arkansas Rehabilitation Services, told WND he and Huckabee helped arrange state and private financial support to induce Mexico to establish the consulate as a business development "quid pro quo."


    Trevino signed on July 7, 2006, a "Facilities Use Agreement" with Mexican consular officials to rent state government office space for $1 a year on the second floor of the Arkansas Rehabilitation Services building at 26 Corporate Hills in Little Rock.

    Sexton points to Arkansas law, which appears to prohibit state agencies, including Arkansas Rehabilitation Services, from sub-leasing government space.

    Ark. Code Ann. ? 22-2-114(C)(i) provides: "After July 1, 1975, no state agency shall enter into or renew or otherwise negotiate a lease between itself as lessor or lessee and a nongovernmental or other government lessor or lessee."

    "Even more offensive, there was nothing in the lease or other agreements that would have prevented the Mexican consulate from providing legal assistance to illegal aliens," Sexton told WND. "We have information that the Mexican consulate operating out of the Arkansas Rehabilitation Facility was providing legal assistance even to Mexican illegal aliens who were accused of committing violent crimes in Arkansas."

    Sexton said he and other critics have "called on the Arkansas attorney general's office to set the lease aside and recover the value of the lease."

    A memo Trevino wrote July 21, 2006, indicating the mortgage for the land to build a new, permanent Mexican consulate in Little Rock was arranged by Arkansas commercial real estate developer Bob Burrow and that the $7,500 mortgage would be paid by Arkansas corporations to support the Mexican consular presence for three years.

    WND also has also obtained copies of invoices from Arkansas construction contractor Baldwin & Shell charging $60,000 for building the new consulate at 3500 South University Park in Little Rock.

    A copy of a check from the city of Little Rock, dated June 1, indicates contractor Baldwin & Shell was paid $60,000 as requested.

    Trevino, in the WND interview, did not dispute the documentary record, but he argued the state government and the sponsoring Arkansas businesses did expect to receive financial returns, in the form of expanded exports to Mexico.

    "I executed that lease agreement as part of the former governor's agreement to provide certain assistance to Mexican officials once they located to Little Rock, because their offices wouldn't be ready for some time," Trevino said.

    Trevino explained that the counsel general of Mexico, Carlos Garcia de Alba, on behalf of the Mexican government, had asked for Huckabee's consideration.

    "So, the sublease agreement was in fulfillment of Governor Huckabee's agreement to assist them as they moved to Little Rock," he said.

    Trevino further explained the written sublease agreement came only on the insistence of the Arkansas Building Authority.


    "The request from the Mexicans was strictly to allow their officials to use their computers, to have a seat and a chair, to be able to plug their computers in to do business," Trevino said. "It wasn't ever envisioned to be a long-term agreement. It was just a temporary opportunity for them."

    Trevino said Mexican officials estimated their permanent office would be available within a few months.

    "We had some office space that we weren't using but the state was paying for anyhow," he explained. "We would not be able to use that office space, because the furniture which was adapted for people with disabilities and our staff wouldn't be available until November."

    Trevino said Arkansas officials felt, therefore, "it was cost-effective for us to kill two birds with one stone."

    "It was a quid pro quo in that the Mexican government was already helping Arkansas businesses to compete selling their products in Mexico," he said. "We had already realized some benefit, so it was basically a good natured gesture – an expression of a mutual working relationship with regard to promoting Arkansas products in Mexico."

    The State Building Authority, which regulates the buildings, he said, then recommended Arkansas "put something in writing, because oftentimes for contingencies and liabilities we would be at least underscore that we were establishing them to allow to work from that office for a short period of time."

    Essentially, Trevino argued, "we were covering the state's interest. We were making official an informal agreement."

    Trevino argued that the temporary space provided the Mexican consulate was not used to conduct official consular business.

    "They weren't even empowered to conduct official duties at that time," he said. "They had only two staff members, including the current consul in Little Rock. They felt like because of the time frame was so abbreviated because of their need, they just needed someplace to put their computer, as I mentioned."

    Arkansas private investigator Michael Hardy disagreed, arguing in a July 25, 2006, investigative report, a copy of which has been provided to WND, that Arkansas receptionists were taking messages for the Mexican consulate at 26 Cooperate Hills.

    "On July 25, 2006, I went to 26 Cooperate Hills," Hardy told WND in telephone interview yesterday, "and Stephanie, the receptionist on duty when you first enter the building told me that the two Mexicans were not there that day, but she was instructed to take messages for them when they were not present."

    Hardy left a message for Consul Andres Chao, but never received a return call.

    Trevino confirmed that Arkansas business leaders and corporations arranged the land purchase and paid the mortgage on the Mexican consulate's new building.

    "Mr. Burrow had developed not only a friendship but a business interest in Mexico," Trevino told WND. "He had offered to the Mexican government to sponsor and facilitate their location to Arkansas, and that was an agreement made between Mr. Burrow and the Mexican government, which you'll have to speak to them (about). That was beyond my authority and my official duties."

    WND placed a second phone call yesterday to Burrow's Jonesboro office but received no return call.

    "With regard to the other companies," Trevino continued, "there were some companies that came to our attention that we conveyed over to the Mexican government, companies that had said they were interested in sponsoring the Mexican government."

    Trevino told WND he could not recall which Arkansas companies were involved in sponsoring the Mexican companies.

    "A number of companies, particularly ones who do business internationally, were very excited about the prospect of a Mexican consulate establishing a presence in the state, which was for the reasons I stated earlier – for enhanced business development opportunities for Arkansas companies," Trevino explained.

    "If you have spent any time in Arkansas, you know people are very generous and hospitable here," he continued. "So that was, from my perspective, that was their intent – to demonstrate to the people of Mexico who were in part their consumers, that they welcomed an opportunity to strengthen business opportunities between our state and their economy in Mexico.

    "These companies had discussions with the Mexican government that they would sponsor the Mexican government to entice them, if you will," he said. "I should point out that this was the last consulate appointed under the presidency of Vicente Fox, and the competition among states was very keen from what they said. Other states wanted Mexico to establish a Mexican consulate, as I mentioned, because a lot of trade opportunities come with these consulates."

    Trevino emphasized: "It never was our intent to get involved in the immigration issue or to aid illegal immigration, that's a federal issue. Our interest and emphasis was and is strictly business development."

    He pointed to the many Arkansas companies, including Wal-Mart and Tyson Foods, that "do a good deal of business in Mexico,"

    "So the more we can facilitate better trade with that country for our companies located here in Arkansas, we have a duty to do that as officials," he said.

    Arkansas attorney Sexton disagreed, insisting, "This whole scheme to get a Mexican consulate to locate in Little Rock appears to be nothing more than a veiled invitation for illegal immigrants to come to Arkansas to work for the Arkansas corporations who want cheap labor." "The package is enhanced by social welfare benefits provided by the state of Arkansas and financing assistance to support the Mexican consulate's presence in the state," Sexton said.

    Trevino confirmed he was state director of the League of United Latin American Citizens, also known as LULAC, an activist group strongly advocating for rights of Hispanic immigrants in the U.S., when on Oct. 3, 2003, he accompanied Huckabee in a state airplane to visit Fox in Mexico.

    In 2003, Trevino was Huckabee's economic development policy adviser.

    In October 2005, Trevino was appointed by Huckabee to his current position as commissioner of Arkansas Rehabilitation Services.


    Sexton is a partner in McCutchen, Sexton, Strunks, a Fort Smith, Ark., law firm.

    Sexton represented long-time activist Joe McCutchen in multiple Freedom of Information Act requests that produced the documents discussed in this story.

    Joey McCutchen II, Sexton's partner in the Fort Smith law firm, is the son of activist Joe McCutchen, who was quoted previously by WND. Source (click here)
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    I am not in favor of legal residents getting benefits. If they cant support theirselves then they should not be granted entry in the first place.

    Also their children should not be given auto citizenship. Children of legal residents should have the same status as their parents until such time as the parents gain full citizenship. The reason for this is that their process has not been completed yet. If they commit a crime while here then their legal residence would be recinded....what about the kid? The kids should have the same status as their parents.
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    Why is the above very long article from April 2007 about Huckabee

    connected to this article that has nothing to do with Huckabee?
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    Taxpayer Revolution Newsletter

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    STATE SENATOR BILL MORROW
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    TAXPAYER REVOLUTION

    "The Political Movement to End Automatic Citizenship"

    Supported by Congressmen Rohrabacher and Bilbray

    May 2009

    Dear Campaign Supporters,

    The California Taxpayer Protection Act petitions will be in circulation starting late June. You will all be notified and you can print as many petitions as you like from the website. The state has already communicated the initiative will save over one billion dollars annually. The campaign has the resources to send out over 500,000 petitions. With a statistical average return we will be in a very good position. But we need everyone's donations along the way to continue the mailings and help us reach the 600,000 signatures. It is this grass roots support that is keeping this campaign alive. Now is the time to help. Please donate on-line or mail your check to POB 9985, San Diego, CA 92169.

    There are now almost 8,000 donors to this campaign since it began one year ago. We have a volunteer force of over 2,000 and many others are lining up including the Tea Party activists. Almost 300,000 emails will be sent out when the petitions are ready.

    There have been six articles and three TV reports on the initiative without any press release. A May 9th article in The Los Angeles Times, "Targeting Illegal Immigrants," incorrectly jabbed that we are stopping federally mandated medical care; but they did write no Supreme Court or Congress had ever ruled that a child born to an illegal alien is a citizen. That was a major victory to see this in writing in that newspaper.

    Reasons to support our ballot initiative: Illegal aliens are about 42% of all Hispanic births now and they are fueling a high unmarried and teenage birth rate. In1980, the Hispanic unmarried birth rate was 18.8%. The California statistics for 2006 show that rate is now at 48.2%. Statistics prove that the unmarried and teenage birth rates produce out of control school drop out rates.

    We have the latest data showing 15% of all students are now dropping out in the 7th and 8th grades. Added to the high school drop out rate now estimated at 20%, this is a whopping 35% that drop out of school before graduation. Only a small percentage of students finish continuation school bringing the rate close to one-third of all students who drop-out.

    Here are the official California statistics for birth mothers with 12th grade or higher: Asian, 89.4, Black, 69.9, Caucasian, 87.4, Hispanic, 42.1%.

    Shocking news from an official at the San Diego County Registrar's Office: 6 out of 10 birth certificates do not have a parent's social security number. It was also reported people are selling real birth certificates on the streets for $5,000 to illegals who did not give birth in the U.S. Then that illegal alien buyer can walk into the welfare office and apply for welfare.

    We must get this initiative on the ballot and end that child only welfare program that attracts illegal aliens to give birth here or fake one to steal our hard-earned tax dollars. We must save our state from deteriorating further into the Third World. This initiative will launch the debate in society to end automatic citizenship. We can help our budget crisis by restricting public benefits and the welfare state.

    But we cannot do this alone. Please realize that donating to a ballot initiative is how we are going to make progress on resolving these serious issues caused by out of control illegal migrations. Every dime counts. We are very appreciative of your contributions and your efforts to help this initiative qualify for the ballot.

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    The time for surveys, agendas, polls and talk are past. We must move this initiative to the ballot and we need everyone's help to do it.

    Thank you very much for your patriotic support.


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    The birthright citizenship issue needs to go the the Supreme Court. I believe there is adequate evidence that the "born on soil" was for slaves born in this country. (As an aside to the "born on soil" there was also an amendment to make American Indians able to vote.)
    Why has this issue over birthright citizenship never gone to the Supreme Court??? Per the Supreme Court we have to educate children of illegals unless it is proven that is is too costly (California, geez, you can step up now...You are bankrupt..).

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