Thread: COMPLETING US-MEXICO BORDER WALL WOULD BE DAUNTING TASK

Friday, January 01, 2016 02:12PM

BROWNSVILLE, TX -- AP - Close to the southern tip of Texas a border wall suddenly ends. Its final post sits in a dry cornfield half a mile from the nearest bend in the Rio Grande river, the actual border with Mexico.

It would be easy to walk around it. Tires left by the border patrol rest nearby. Agents drag them behind trucks to smooth the cracked earth and check for footprints.

Unlike other famous barriers in history such as the Berlin Wall or the Great Wall of China, the U.S. version is not much of a wall. What stands in Texas is fragmented series of fencing, composed of enormous steel bars embedded in concrete close together. The rust-colored thick bars that must reach a height of 18 feet loom over the landscape, forming teeth-like slats that split farmland, slice through backyards, and sever parks and nature preserves.

There are miles of gaps between segments and openings in the fence itself. As a result of the Secure Fence Act passed in 2006, the government built some 650 miles of wall along the 1,954-mile U.S.-Mexico boundary. While 1,254 miles of that border is in Texas, the state has only some 100 miles of wall.

Republican presidential candidates insist they'll finish it. But completing the Texas part of the wall would be a daunting task thanks to the border's sheer length, the fact that it sits in the center of the snaking Rio Grande, and because treaties with Mexico prevent either country from constructing within the river's flood plains. And unlike in other southwestern states, most border land in Texas is privately owned.

Finishing the some 1,300 miles of border fencing would also be costly. According to a 2009 Government accountability report, pedestrian fencing, meant to keep out smugglers and migrants crossing on foot, has run anywhere from $400,000 to $15.1 million per mile, averaging $3.9 million. More recent construction has been even more expensive, with segments constructed in 2008 costing $6.5 million per mile. If kept at this rate, the wall would cost nearly $10 billion to complete just for materials, and challenging geography could bring it much higher.

"With every twist and turn of the Rio Grande and every steep terrain in Arizona, it would cost easily that much," said Adam Isacson, a border expert for the Washington Office on Latin America.

Officials overseeing the wall's construction faced a legal and logistical nightmare from the start, according to emails obtained under the Freedom of Information Act and litigation by Denise Gilman, a law professor at the University of Texas. The hundreds of emails, which Gilman shared with The Associated Press, show that from the planning phase some 65 miles of the proposed route sat a half mile to a mile from the border, making it not a true border wall.

Officials struggled to find places where construction could start fast to meet Congress' deadline of building 255 miles by December 2008. They sought contingency fencing that did not require "significant real estate acquisitions" or cut through sensitive wilderness, the emails show. Wealthy landowners demanded more compensation or refused to allow construction.

Hundreds of property owners were sued just to build the existing chunks of wall. Some 400 relinquished properties ranging in size from a driveway to commercial lots and farms, costing the government at least $15 million, according to an AP review of land cases in 2012.

Among them was Eloisa Tamez, who refused to cede her three acres in San Benito, land that had been in her family for generations. A federal judge ruled in the government's favor, and Tamez was compensated $56,000, with which she funded a scholarship at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley where she works as a professor.

"It might be just a little piece of land," she said. "But to me it meant my life."

The Rio Grande Valley is home to 54 miles of wall, and the official name of the border barrier there is Pedestrian Fence 255. The area is the major crossing point for tens of thousands of families and unaccompanied children, many fleeing gang violence in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras. The surge that began last year resumed in recent months, and Gov. Greg Abbott extended the Texas National Guard border patrol deployment in response to more than 10,000 unaccompanied children crossing into the U.S. in October and November.

Some residents have found themselves cut off by the wall.

Pamela Taylor, who lives near Brownsville, originally fought the wall's construction. Now her Texas home sits behind the wall on the side facing Mexico.

She still leaves coolers of water for thirsty migrants, though she wishes more of them would come to the United States legally, the way she emigrated from England.

The wall "doesn't do any good. It's a waste of money," she said. But she's gotten used to it.

Some locals say it's better than nothing.

Othal E. Brand Jr., the president of the Hidalgo County Water District 3, which supplies water to the McAllen area, pointed out where the fence separated a 20-acre reservoir from two pumping stations, which sit behind it along a bend in the Rio Grande. Brand said this land, adjacent to a wilderness reserve, was for years overrun by nighttime crossers and that smugglers threatened and even shot at his employees.

"The wall is only part of the solution," he said, "but it's an important part."

Several candidates for the presidency in 2016 have proposed building more border wall along the nearly 2,000 mile frontier with Mexico to keep people from crossing into the U.S. illegally.

Here is what they have to say about a border wall.

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DONALD TRUMP

Trump has been the most outspoken about building a wall, and insists he'll make Mexico pay for it.

"We're going to do a wall. We're going to create a border," he said during the third Republican debate in October. Trump also made reference to the Great Wall of China, and claimed that "Mexico is going to pay for the wall."

On his website, Trump reiterates his assertion that "there must be a wall across our southern border." In November, after eight Syrian Christians sought asylum and turned themselves in to officials in Laredo, Texas, Trump tweeted, "WE NEED A BIG & BEAUTIFUL WALL".

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TED CRUZ

The Texas senator pledges on his website to "build a wall that works," and to "complete the wall," though he offers no specifics as to how he would do so.

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MARCO RUBIO

The Florida senator says the most vulnerable sectors of the southwest border must be secured, according to his website. During the Republican debate in September, in response to a question, he said that "we must secure our border, the physical border, with a wall, absolutely."

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JEB BUSH

In contrast to his rivals, Bush has said he considers a massive border fence to be unnecessary. "We don't need to build a wall," he told a group of Latino business owners in September.

A month before in McAllen, Texas, across the river from Reynosa, Mexico, the former governor of Florida told supporters that Trump's wall strategy "not based in reality."

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HILLARY CLINTON

At a November town hall campaign event in New Hampshire, where she was asked about securing the U.S.-Mexico border, the former New York senator and secretary of state stressed that she'd voted for the 2006 legislation that authorized the building of some 650 miles of wall.

"I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Clinton said, "and I do think that you have to control your borders." She later apologized for using the term "illegal immigrants." She has not said whether she would extend the wall.

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BERNIE SANDERS

The independent senator from Vermont sees the importance of securing the border, but is opposed to building a fence to do so, according to his website.

"I also opposed tying immigration reform to the building of a border fence," he said during a speech in June to the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials.

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They just announced last week that they now had high quality monitoring cameras they could install on hilltops. It's about time. Boeing really took them for a ride---like it often does with the federal government.

Yeah, that was a bad deal. Hopefully they made good on it and figured out something that actually works.

Whoa! We're Americans. We possess ingenuity and have the freedom to pursue our impossible dreams. (Or at least we used to).
I'm sure the Hoover Damn was a daunting task, but there it sits. We mastered the terrain of this nation to build a railroad system through valleys and mountains. Even the surface of the moon is now littered with our footprints. And we're being told we can't build a wall? Poppycock!

Mr. Trump. Build that wall!

Originally Posted by Goldendaze

Whoa! We're Americans. We possess ingenuity and have the freedom to pursue our impossible dreams. (Or at least we used to).
I'm sure the Hoover Damn was a daunting task, but there it sits. We mastered the terrain of this nation to build a railroad system through valleys and mountains. Even the surface of the moon is now littered with our footprints. And we're being told we can't build a wall? Poppycock!

Mr. Trump. Build that wall!

Exactly, Goldendaze!! Thank you for reminding us, sometimes we're so beaten up by the meaningless, we forget what's really important!

Someone who has built those daunting skyscrapers will not be daunted by construction of a border wall. He won't let US get ripped off paying for it either.

Hey, Mexico, get out your check book, pay day is coming.

Originally Posted by Judy

Exactly, Goldendaze!! Thank you for reminding us, sometimes we're so beaten up by the meaningless, we forget what's really important!

Yes Judy, many, many Americans have no sense of traditional American culture or how grand this country once was. I just finished reading the post "Suicidal Liberalism Will Never End Illegal Immigration". The statements made comparing California of the 1950's and 1960's to the pathetic State it has become really wrenches my gut. Sadly, through observation, it is true that what happens in California eventually spreads to the rest of the country like cancer.

Originally Posted by Goldendaze

Yes Judy, many, many Americans have no sense of traditional American culture or how grand this country once was. I just finished reading the post "Suicidal Liberalism Will Never End Illegal Immigration". The statements made comparing California of the 1950's and 1960's to the pathetic State it has become really wrenches my gut. Sadly, through observation, it is true that what happens in California eventually spreads to the rest of the country like cancer.

It's so sad, Goldendaze. Growing up in the midwest, we always thought California was the paradise of our country. Not so any more. What a shame. I honestly don't know where paradise is in our country any more. It used to be California. New York was the bright lights and excitement of a fast moving business pace. Chicago was the epicenter, beautiful windy but solid city.

Now all the cities have more population than they can sustain because they've lost the manufacturing that employed the population, and over-run with immigrants legal and illegal looking for jobs and better lives where there are no jobs without stealing them from Americans, massive poverty results and government spends all its time and our money dealing with it and now our citizens are either afraid to leave their homes or depressed when they do because all they see are immigrants speaking languages we don't understand or wearing garbs or half covered baby bumps we don't want to look at.

We've allowed these stupid politicians to make us unhappy prisoners in our own country.

These double-talking, two-timing, snakes in the grass and devils in ties have perverted our once beautiful land of the free and home of the brave. We're being played and double-teamed by all of them. The game is you talk this talk and keep them focused on your anti-immigration bills while I sneak over and stick it up their backside on trade, then I'll swing back around and make sure nothing happens on your anti-immigration bills while you talk this talk on saving SS and Medicare while I walk the walk that revises the tax code to eliminate the payroll tax that funds it.

It's revolting what is going on. Pure wickedness.

One can no longer consider living in states once thought to be desirable. California and many others were beautiful states, especially for weather & scenic views. What was once a flavor of tex-mex is everywhere in America now. When foreign ways overtake American ways, something is very wrong.

Sadly, every single state has changed due to over the top illegal & legal immigration numbers - then you have the foreign workers with visas that can now bring their spouses to take more jobs from Americans.

What gets me is that Americans are supposed to be reducing energy and of course "Greenhouse gases" but we take people from countries where they don't even know what a heater is, except the cooking fire, and then they have to live in Minnesota or Chicago or upstate New York, and they are just one more energy hog, burning coal for electricity. or petroleum in heating stoves in a drafty old rental property. Show me how this makes any sense at all. Then the Somalis dream of going back to Africa, and not only escaping the cold, joining some terror group. What idiocy!!!

I know a conservative seminary in the Silicon Valley area---an area flooded with illegal Chinese and Latinos, both. Do they ever take a stand for national sovereignty? I know some of them just shamelessly pander to everyone flocking in because of the tech industry. Illegal Chinese as well.

If we build a wall on the border what protects our coasts ?