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    Donald Trump administration seeks to detain illegal immigrant families indefinitely

    Donald Trump administration seeks to detain illegal immigrant families indefinitely



    6 September 2018 • 7:29pm

    The US government has announced a new plan to detain illegal immigrant children indefinitely with their parents.

    It proposed a termination of the so-called Flores Agreement, a court ruling that requires it to release minors after a maximum 20 days in detention.

    The move was the latest twist in a saga which saw 2,900 children separated from their families at the Mexican border earlier this year under Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy.

    Immigration advocates oppose any effort to detain children longer than the current agreement allows, and will almost certainly challenge the latest development in court.

    The Flores Agreement came about in 1997 and resulted from a legal case involving a girl from El Salvador who was detained.

    The 20-day limit led to a situation in which illegal immigrants crossing the border with children were generally released from custody after a short period of time.

    Under Mr Trump's "zero tolerance" policy children were separated from their parents, so that the parents could be detained for longer.
    That led to an international outcry and Mr Trump ultimately reversed the policy.



    However, hundreds of children remain separated from parents who were deported without them, and efforts to reunite them continue.

    If the new policy were to proceed, the government only currently has three operational family detention centres.

    The homeland security department has asked for space to house 12,000 families, plus space for 20,000 unaccompanied minors.

    Families would then be held together until their immigration cases were completed.

    Under the proposal children would be "treated with dignity, respect and special concern," the department said.

    Kirstjen Nielsen, Mr Trump's homeland security secretary, said: "Today, legal loopholes significantly hinder the department's ability to appropriately detain and promptly remove family units that have no legal basis to remain in the country.

    "This new rule addresses one of the primary pull factors for illegal immigration, and allows the federal government to enforce immigration laws as passed by Congress."

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    NO! Send them back. I do not want to pay for it.

    They can go home and apply legally and WAIT their damn turn!

    I do not want 2 MILLION people in tents on our border and our expense!

    No freaking "refugee" camps turning this country into a breeding cesspool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    NO! Send them back. I do not want to pay for it.

    They can go home and apply legally and WAIT their damn turn!

    I do not want 2 MILLION people in tents on our border and our expense!

    No freaking "refugee" camps turning this country into a breeding cesspool!
    So you would rather continue the catch & release policy since we can't currently detain children more than 20 days?

    Nope, I'd rather see the Flores Agreement go away so we can keep everyone detained until they're deported, regardless of whether it takes 30 days, 45 days, or 60 days.
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    What we want, MW, is catch and deport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    So you would rather continue the catch & release policy since we can't currently detain children more than 20 days?
    No, when the 20 days are up, take them to a port of entry and boot them across the border!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    What we want, MW, is catch and deport.
    Of course we do, but that can't always happen within 20 days. So, in the meantime, you're fine with releasing the parents with their illegal alien children because we can't keep the children detained for over 20 days? Well, like I said, I'm not. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all create the utopia we wanted. Get rid of the Flores agreement because catch & release needs to end!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtdc View Post
    No, when the 20 days are up, take them to a port of entry and boot them across the border![/SIZE]
    As you well know, the system doesn't quite work that fast. Of course I wish it did, but it just doesn't.
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    I want them booted out within 48 hours...all of them!

    Not one minute longer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorrie View Post
    Donald Trump administration seeks to detain illegal immigrant families indefinitely

    Put the Military on the border to STOP this invasion and we wouldn't have to argue about catch and release, or how long to detain etc.

    We then could concentrate on deporting the ones already here.
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    What do you want the military to do? Shoot 'em? All the military can do or will do is the same thing Border Patrol does, arrest them, detain them and eventually release them. I've supported and called for TROOPS ON THE BORDER for 15 years. Then I realized, what is the difference between an Army Ranger and a Border Patrol agent? Different uniforms, because it's the same mission: catch, arrest, detain, eventually release.

    Americans were out-snookered when we unknowingly allowed the US Congress to move the deportation process out of INS when the DHS was formed, and transferred that important leg of the process to the US Department of Justice.
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