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    Employers must be prosecuted to end the flow of illegal immigrants



    Employers must be prosecuted to end the flow of illegal immigrants


    BY JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 06/08/19 10:00 AM EDT 888
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    President Trump has long defined his immigration policies as simply a matter of toughness. Indeed, making the border crossing tougher has been the overriding thrust of his deterrence effort. He has complained to border agents that he would love to see them get “a little rough” but that “when you do all of these things that we have to do, they end up arresting Border Patrol people.” He even threatened a 25 percent tariff on Mexico for failing to prevent people from crossing the border.

    Yet, no hardship has deterred millions on this dangerous journey because of what waits on the other side of the border, which is jobs. To remove that attraction, the government would have to get tough not on migrants but on those who hire them. That is a tad too tough, it seems, for most immigration hawks. According to a recent study, the Justice Department prosecuted only 11 employers in the entire nation last year. That is right, with the Pew Research Center estimating that about 11 million undocumented persons are living and working in the United States, the Justice Department is prosecuting at a rate of one employer for every one million undocumented persons.


    Immigration, it seems, is an offense committed solely by undocumented persons. While the president has charged that undocumented workers take away jobs from citizens, neither party is eager to deal with those who give away those jobs, despite the undocumented making up an estimated 5 percent of the workforce. In California, Nevada, and Texas, they make up almost 10 percent of the workforce.


    Toughness does not extend to those who benefit most from unlawful hiring. There are no federal agents being asked to get “a little rough” with corporate executives. On paper, federal law is both clear and tough. It is illegal to hire, recruit, or refer illegal immigrants for hire. It also is illegal to fail to verify work authorization. Knowledge of unlawful hiring can be inferred from the lack of proof or suspicious applications.


    Moreover, the laws are based on the assumption of enforcement actions that ratchet up punishment to deter repeat offenders. The penalty for each worker rises from as much as $2,000 to $10,000 by the third offense. Knowingly hiring illegal workers can result in six months of jail, while “harboring” such workers can result in up to 10 years in prison. Yet, if there is little enforcement, then the hiring of undocumented persons remains not just a cost of doing business but a small cost.


    The government continues to publicizes splashy cases, such as the large $5.5 million fine against Waste Management of Texas. Yet, these relatively rare actions pose little threat to most businesses, as shown by the rising numbers of illegal workers in the workforce. Classic economic theory treats the deterrence of crime as a relationship between the rate of detection and the severity of the punishment. If the rate of detection is high, penalties can be low and still achieve deterrence.

    If the rate of detection is low, deterrence theory would prompt high penalties.


    The curious thing is that this is an offense being committed in plain sight. Certain industries are open recidivists in violation of federal immigration law. As much as half of our farmworkers are believed to be undocumented, while 15 percent of employees in construction jobs and almost 10 percent of fast food and domestic help are believed to be working illegally. One would think that, at less than a dozen prosecutions of employers, detection rates are virtually zero.


    Detection, however, appears quite high, with one out of every two workers in agriculture being undocumented. For a rational actor, the low level of prosecution is an invitation to violate federal law. Indeed, according to a recent study, only three employers were sentenced to jail out of 11 prosecutions. That puts the rate of prosecution at slightly above cases for harassing golfers in any national park in Washington State or attempting to change the weather without notifying the Commerce Department.


    This is not a call for wholesale prosecutions but, rather, for some semblance of continuity and consistency in our policies. The case for tougher immigration laws would be stronger if the Trump administration showed the same vigor with regard to both parties to illegal employment. There does appear to be a growing crisis in immigration, with sharp increases in unlawful crossings and a need to reform immigration law.

    However, the sharp dichotomy in enforcement against workers and employers undermines the demand for action by President Trump. Most undocumented persons come to the United States for work. Those offering them the work are the draw, and sending just three of them to jail is unlikely to change the realities of the market. In the end, widespread of arrests of undocumented persons does little, due to the simple realities of enforcement. We cannot jail millions of people or transport them all out of the country.


    Yet, the number of major employers is far smaller and would be susceptible to deterrent policies of prosecution. It is possible to change the dynamic, but that would mean getting “a little rougher” on the back end of the illegal immigration system. Of course, there is another possibility. While denouncing undocumented workers, Congress and the White House have little interest in actually removing them from the workforce. We need these workers so, instead, we round up a couple thousand in factories and restaurants while effectively ignoring the employers.


    The deal with Mexico, announced late Friday by President Trump, is an undeniable achievement. It includes a reported agreement to have migrants return to Mexico pending the resolution of their asylum claims. While it is difficult to see how Mexico will humanely house hundreds of thousands of people, the agreement could deter some people from crossing, or at least from surrendering when they reach the United States.

    For the rest, the calculus of risk remains unchanged, so long as willing employers are waiting just on the other side of the border

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    Prosecute the Governors for harboring, aiding and abetting illegal aliens and embezzlement of taxpayer funds, misappropriation of those funds and using OUR tax dollars to fund illegal aliens!

    Get them out of our schools, off Medicaid, off welfare and food stamps and out of our housing!
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    HOW MANY DECADES have we've been listening to this song: Prosecute the employers????? NEVER EVER WILL HAPPEN!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyklo View Post
    HOW MANY DECADES have we've been listening to this song: Prosecute the employers????? NEVER EVER WILL HAPPEN!!!!!
    Not in a meaningful way it won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post

    Employers must be prosecuted to end the flow of illegal immigrants



    Yet, no hardship has deterred millions on this dangerous journey because of what waits on the other side of the border, which is jobs. To remove that attraction, the government would have to get tough not on migrants but on those who hire them.
    This is what I've been saying all along!!!!!! The only way to really get rid of all the illegals in this country is to go straight to the source of the problem, the people who hire them. If they can't get (steal) a job, they will ALL have no choice but to leave.
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