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    I did see an article today that Ted Kennedy has left the judiciary committee and gone to the health and services committee. Some think that is a death blow to the immigration chances. We'll see.
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    It would be wonderful if these kids felt that going to the home country of their illegal alien parents and making a difference there with the education we have given them. But, I fear, there will be very few that even have such a thought since there may not be enough cell-phone towers or high-speed Internet access to keep them happy.
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    Re: sjguy

    Quote Originally Posted by misterbill
    Don't expect me to join your effort to delay the take over of America and have the next generation of anchor babies take it away.
    You want them to be good citizens??? Make them good citizens of their home country. Send them home. And don't give me th carp that they were born here so this is home.

    You sir, are the most challenging aspect of this battle.
    I agree Mr. Bill.
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    Re: sjguy

    Quote Originally Posted by misterbill
    Don't expect me to join your effort to delay the take over of America and have the next generation of anchor babies take it away.
    You want them to be good citizens??? Make them good citizens of their home country. Send them home. And don't give me th carp that they were born here so this is home.

    You sir, are the most challenging aspect of this battle.
    Well said MB!
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    So, you expect people born in this country who have little knowledge of their parents' country of origin, the Spanish-language or Mexican culture to voluntarily move to Mexico?? Or do you think that legislation could possibly be enacted to force natural-born citizens to go to a new country???

    Come on, let's be realistic. You're talking about a fantasy that will never happen.

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    sjguy: And what world do you live in? Come one, come all. Can you sponsor them all? I bet you don't legally sponsor any of these immigrants. That is the problem, the requirement of being sponsored got missing for the corporate greedies.

    No more immigrants and their non-citizen children for 15 years.

    Solution and cure. :P

    We will see.
    Also, keeping people out is one thing, kicking people out another, but making good citizens out of the next generation born to illegal parents in this country is the most important thing to me and I expect it to be the most challenging aspect of this battle. I'd like to hear some ideas for how we can accomplish this as I'm thinking of making a website dedicated to that idea.
    DEPORT THEM AND FIX THE 14TH FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, RETROACTIVE IS GREAT WITH 80 PERCENT OF AMERICANS.

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    Crackdown at workplace:
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    We're stuck with the vast majority of these people. There's no way around that. No amount of posturing and bravado will make deportation of people born in this country a reality. Let's turn as many of them as possible into law abiding tax-paying citizens so I don't have to worry about my car getting broken into or getting mugged the next time I'm at the ATM. At least their taxes will help to pay for the endless variety of services they inevitably receive!!!

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    NO,

    court and government destroy the citizens and give these illegal immigrants a pass for the corporate elitists.

    YOU ARE IN DREAM LAND SOMEWHERE FOR I AM WORKING FOR THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF YOUR PLAN.

    bye traitor or illegal
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    Economic crisis, illegal immigration crackdown spurs exodus

    By Alexia Campbell and Georgia East | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
    Pompano Beach - Every morning, Vanderlei stands for five hours outside a Brazilian bakery waiting for construction work. It's slim pickings these days. Just last week, he went four days without one offer.

    During the real estate boom, Vanderlei, and nearly 100 other Brazilian day laborers like him, could count on contractors picking them up for work on a daily basis. Some made as much as $100 a day. But the jobs have dried up. Many of the laborers who would wait in this plaza have given up and gone back to their homelands.

    "It's a big sacrifice to be here and not be making any money," said Vanderlei, whose full name is not being used because of his undocumented status. "The first time I came here it was good, now it's tragic."

    Vanderlei is giving up. He plans to return to Brazil in December.

    The economic crisis, coupled with a crackdown on illegal immigration, has prompted many immigrants without legal status to leave. Even legal residents, including those with American citizenship, are returning home to parts of Latin America and the Caribbean, consular officials and community leaders said. Their goal: higher-paying jobs or to start new business ventures.

    While it's hard to pin down how many have left, there are several signs of the impact. The number of foreign-born students in Broward County Click here for restaurant inspection reports public schools has dropped by about 5,000 in the past three years. Enrollment in English as a second language classes has also gone down, and immigrants living here are sending less cash back home. Remittances to Latin America and the Caribbean are expected to fall by 1.7 percent from 2007, after inflation is counted — a loss of $1 billion dollars.Increasing reports of an immigrant exodus has prompted the Migration Policy Institute in Washington, D.C., to start a study of its magnitude and causes, said Senior Vice President Michael Fix.

    One of the challenges is determining how many are leaving, experts said; most go uncounted in official data. But thousands have returned to Governador Valadares, Brazil. The strengthening Brazilian currency and weakening U.S. dollar has a lot to do with it, said Raimundo Santana, of the Association of Relatives and Friends of Brazilian Emigrants, based in Brazil.

    Undocumented workers were the first to return after the real estate market crash in the United States, he said. Now, those with legal status are joining them.

    "These are people who had businesses and started to feel the recession," said Santana, whose group provides support to families with loved ones overseas. "They've returned and are looking for any opportunity."

    Santana estimates that 3,000 people returned to Governador Valadares within the last year. He expects twice as many to come back by early next year.

    The Jamaica Consulate Office, in Miami, is also getting more calls from people wanting to know more about the process of moving back, said information officer Cheryl Wynters.

    "Usually by the time they call us, they've made up their minds and they're going," she said.

    At C.D. Alexander Realty, in Jamaica, general manager Joy Roberts said most home sales in October involved people planning to return to the island.

    "The trend really began about a year ago, but since the crisis in the States we've seen a lot more business from foreign nationals," she said.

    As a result, Roberts said the agency is now advertising their properties mostly in U.S. locations with a large Caribbean community, like South Florida.

    But the economy is not the only factor.

    Hispanics are feeling the effects of stepped up immigration enforcement, according to a Pew Hispanic Center study. More than half of all Hispanics surveyed said they worry that a loved one could be deported. A growing number said their immigration status was making it even more difficult to find a job.

    Claudia Ceballos, who teaches English as a second language in West Palm Beach, used to have about 50 students in her classes, most from Latin America. Enrollment fell to about 20 since midsummer.

    "Right now they don't have jobs and some have immigration looking for them, so they're leaving," said Ceballos, who teaches at Vickers House South.

    Others are still debating whether to stay or go. Ivan, 54, an undocumented immigrant who lives in Pompano Beach, said if construction doesn't pick up in the next few months, he'll return to Brazil.

    "We'll see if it gets any better," he said.
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/community/news/pompano_beach/sfl-flbgoinghome1116pnnov16,0,5631786.story
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmonkey56
    NO,

    court and government destroy the citizens and give these illegal immigrants a pass for the corporate elitists.

    YOU ARE IN DREAM LAND SOMEWHERE FOR I AM WORKING FOR THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF YOUR PLAN.

    bye traitor or illegal
    So, what is your plan? Let's hear it!

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