Thread: Illegal immigration population plunges, estimates show

they left california and came to maryland. our pro illegal corrupt governor and his backside cronies give them everything in md. damn , they eat better than citizens do. they provide them with cash/welfare/ sec 8 free housing and give them drivers license/voters card and casa de maryland organization now has about 7 day labor camps that give them a place to wait for employers to pick them up for cash jobs

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

If illegal aliens are leaving some areas, that is good news. I have not noticed any decreases in this area, probably the opposite. There are increasing demands for more free services from City officials, the Chamber, immigrant and refugee groups, foreign businesses, and others.

As we step up pressure on politicians, candidates, law enforcement, local and state officials, and others, hopefully the numbers will decrease even more.

Psalm 91

No decreases here in Sanctuary City San Francisco either.

Originally Posted by Judy

Oh good grief, there's 12 million illegal aliens in California alone. Back up and try a new model, Department of Homeland Stupidity, the Pew Center model has always been a lie to conceal the actual number of illegal aliens in the US to minimalize the issue, not provide an accurate number of how many illegal aliens there really are in the US and expose it.

After all, if people knew how many illegal aliens there really are in the US, which I think is well over 60 million including their offspring by now, there might just be some dissent from even the idiot groups supporting this travesty against American Law and Justice which just might bring this integration and dissolution plot to destroy the US to a grinding halt.

There Is probably AT LEAST 12 million In California... Probably 4 million just In Los Angeles alone. These numbers are a joke. Come to Caleeeeefornia and find out for yourself..... TS

I'll go with the DHS are liars and want CIR!

Originally Posted by topsecret10

Originally Posted by Judy

Oh good grief, there's 12 million illegal aliens in California alone. Back up and try a new model, Department of Homeland Stupidity, the Pew Center model has always been a lie to conceal the actual number of illegal aliens in the US to minimalize the issue, not provide an accurate number of how many illegal aliens there really are in the US and expose it.

After all, if people knew how many illegal aliens there really are in the US, which I think is well over 60 million including their offspring by now, there might just be some dissent from even the idiot groups supporting this travesty against American Law and Justice which just might bring this integration and dissolution plot to destroy the US to a grinding halt.

There Is probably AT LEAST 12 million In California... Probably 4 million just In Los Angeles alone. These numbers are a joke. Come to Caleeeeefornia and find out for yourself..... TS

Immigration counters website......... http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I'll go with the DHS are liars and want CIR!

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Number of illegal immigrants in U.S. may be closer to 20 million

The "12 million undocumented and illegal immigrants" residing in our country have fueled the national discourse on immigration reform. The number is repeatedly cited by immigration reform advocates like CNN's Lou Dobbs looking to incite support for their policies in curtailing the influx of foreigners. But few politicos and pundits ever stop to ask two questions fundamental to the immigration debate: How do we calculate the number of illegal immigrants? And where did the number 12 million come from?

The methodology for counting unauthorized immigrants relies on a lot of assumptions which call into question the accuracy of the results. Twelve million may be the most popular number cited for illegal immigrants in the U.S at present, but some estimates, like one from Bear Stearns, believe the count is actually closer to a whopping 20 million.

The different estimates stem from the varied methodologies used to arrive at a figure. Most approximations of the size and characteristics of the illegal immigrant population use the "residual method," pioneered by Jeffrey Passel of the Pew Hispanic Center. It is Dr. Passel who first came up with the estimate of 12 million illegal immigrants. The most recent estimate by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on the unauthorized population also uses the residual method.



The residual method uses a 2000 U.S. Census survey as its starting point because it yields an estimate on the number of foreign-born residents. Researchers subtract the number of immigrants who were authorized to come to the U.S. from the number of foreign-born residents counted by the Census Bureau. This number is then adjusted using estimates of immigrant deaths and migration, and to account for Census undercounting.

Because the estimate of foreign-born individuals living in the U.S. derived by the Census relies on survey respondents to answer the Census questionnaire honestly, and because the survey was done eight years ago, neither the estimate of foreign-born individuals nor the 12 million illegal immigrant estimate can be trusted. Are we to believe that houses full of illegal immigrants would give an accurate count of the people inside their home to Census takers? Even more absurd is the belief they would even fill out the survey or be found by the Census in the first place.

DHS anticipates the undercounting and adjusts their illegal immigrant estimates by a rate of 10% to account for it. But the adjustments amount to nothing more than guesswork; they are made without any means of precision.

‘Outmigration' also throws off estimates of illegal immigrants. Outmigration occurs when authorized immigrants leave the country or die. The events-which are projected from norms rather than recorded-alter the accuracy on the legal resident immigrant count used to calculate the number of illegal immigrants. Even Dr. Passel confesses that Outmigration is "hard to measure."

In 2005, Bear Stearns analysts determined that the surveys conducted by the Census Bureau undercounted the number of illegal immigrants by far more than 10%. Through discussions with illegal immigrants, Bear Stearns found that immigrants avoid responding to Census questionnaires and work very hard to conceal their identities.

As an alternative to the residual method, Bear Stearns used micro-economic indicators to project an alternative estimate. They examined trends in school enrollment, foreign remittances and housing permits in states with high populations of undocumented immigrants like Texas, California, and New York.

Underpinning Bear Stearns' estimate of 20 million illegal immigrants is the identification of two patterns: 1) a trend of sharply increased demand for public services in communities that have become gateways for immigration, and 2) increases in foreign remittances (money sent back to an immigrant's native country), housing permits and border-crossings.

Given the unrecorded nature of the illegal immigration phenomenon, it's unlikely that a well-founded or rigorous method of measurement will be developed. The reality is, the math is fuzzy and the most definitive conclusion one can make is that the measurements of illegal immigrants in the U.S. are subject to extreme inaccuracies.

I think the number is closer to 40 million +. They have affected every state in the Union.

How many anchor babies ? 20 million, 40 million ??? who knows ??? And there still coming !!!!!

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I think the number is closer to 40 million +. They have affected every state in the Union.

I think that you are correct.......

Originally Posted by topsecret10

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I think the number is closer to 40 million +. They have affected every state in the Union.

I think that you are correct.......

Me too!!

Originally Posted by topsecret10

Originally Posted by Judy

Oh good grief, there's 12 million illegal aliens in California alone. Back up and try a new model, Department of Homeland Stupidity, the Pew Center model has always been a lie to conceal the actual number of illegal aliens in the US to minimalize the issue, not provide an accurate number of how many illegal aliens there really are in the US and expose it.

After all, if people knew how many illegal aliens there really are in the US, which I think is well over 60 million including their offspring by now, there might just be some dissent from even the idiot groups supporting this travesty against American Law and Justice which just might bring this integration and dissolution plot to destroy the US to a grinding halt.

There Is probably AT LEAST 12 million In California... Probably 4 million just In Los Angeles alone. These numbers are a joke. Come to Caleeeeefornia and find out for yourself..... TS

Right! I know! I've never lived in California, but I go there on business once in awhile and it's unbelievable. It's truly heartbreaking to see what has happened to our beautiful California.