Thread: Judge will temporarily halt deportations of reunited families By TED HESSON 07/16/201

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

"An officer who defies a court order is subject to contempt of court," Michael McConnell, director of the Constitutional Law Center at Stanford Law School, told ATTN:. That means the federal employee could face fines or jail time.

A judge can make an order that is found to be illegal, or that the judge did not have the authority to make the order, and it's no skin off of his nose!

"They could, possibly, even hold President Trump in contempt," Winkler said. "It's not clear exactly how that would work.

Exactly! Constitutionally they could do nothing until he was impeached. By then the matter would most likely be moot!

Trump acting in such a way could be the basis for impeachment proceedings, but that would be the responsibility of a Congress controlled by the president's own party, Winkler noted.

One major reason the president resisting courts would be so damaging is the effect it would have on the separation of powers. No branch of the government, at least on paper, is to challenge the power and jurisdiction of another.

Tell that to all the left-wing judges!

"I imagine that if Trump ordered lawyers to ignore court orders, we would see significant resignations, en masse," Winkler said. "You're talking about government prosecutors who believe in the rule of law. These are not political appointees, these are career prosecutors. They're not going to follow that kind of order."

We are a nation of cowards. Remember Nathan Hale's "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."?

In the military we were taught to obey orders. Then came the My Lai massacre. In that case it was found that a military member had the right to disobey an order of a superior officer if they felt is was illegal. I tested that a couple of times. Once a Captain ordered me to remove a part from an airplane to put on another airplane that was about to take off. I refuse. He threatened Courts-Martial. I stood my ground, asked for his serial number and he backed down. My buddies said I was going down. But if I complied with that Captain's order, I would likely have been held accountable. And you could be sure he would leave me out to dry. His career was more important...to him!

It's a matter of standing up for what's right. What this judge ordered is not law. It's only his order. So I think there is grounds to disobey it until determination is made.

More on what the ACLU is doing.....

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The pending deportations were blocked on Monday, for one week, at the request of the ACLU by Sabraw, who is already forcing agency officials to reunite 2,551 children and youths with their migrant parents. The judge’s demand for reunification is forcing immigration agencies to release the migrants’ parents from detention before the President’s zero-tolerance policy can deport them homewards. Sabraw is also forcing taxpayers to fund the reunification of the migrants with their claimed children.
“Due to their unlawful separations, parents and children have had no chance to have meaningful conversations with one another about the family’s collective options,” the ACLU said in its request to the judge. “Parents cannot make such momentous decisions on behalf of their families without knowing what claims their children may have, or even that their children may have independent claims.”
The parents could ask the ACLU to help win asylum for their children, even after the parents have done home. One option for the children and youths is to seek so-called ” Special Immigrant Juvenile Status” which would allow a state judge to win federal green cards for youths on the grounds that they have been abandoned by their parents in the United States.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-deportations/

In the last few weeks, officials have deported a small group of migrants who brought 102 children aged four or below into the United States. Officials said at least 12 of the parents agreed to separate themselves from their children and leave them in the United States. Those children likely will be passed to close relatives of the migrants, many of whom are illegally in the United States.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/16/california-judge-bars-family-deportations/

Who is doing this? Is this DOJ doing this?

Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders

In the last few weeks, officials have deported a small group of migrants who brought 102 children aged four or below into the United States. Officials said at least 12 of the parents agreed to separate themselves from their children and leave them in the United States. Those children likely will be passed to close relatives of the migrants, many of whom are illegally in the United States.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/16/california-judge-bars-family-deportations/

Who is doing this? Is this DOJ doing this?

"Sabraw, who was nominated by former President George W. Bush, intervened as the Department of Homeland Security prepared to repatriate many of the parent migrants who tried to use their children to move into the United States.

In the last few weeks, officials have deported a small group of migrants who brought 102 children aged four or below into the United States. Officials said at least 12 of the parents agreed to separate themselves from their children and leave them in the United States. Those children likely will be passed to close relatives of the migrants, many of whom are illegally in the United States.

Officials are processing the group of roughly 2,500 adults who brought children aged 5 to 17 into the United States..."

What department are the "officials" with? DHS? So lets get this straight, the parents are self-deporting leaving their children behind to be deported some time in the future by DOJ. Is that the scam?

The U.S. government has been deporting parents and keeping the kids in the U.S. for years.

11/2/2011

Thousands of Kids Taken From Parents In U.S. Deportation System

11/11/11

Children pack TX. foster care after immigration enforcement

That is ridiculous, especially now that we know the back-log for deportation hearings is years long, 8 to 9 years, based on DOJ's deportation annual figures of around 87,000 and the over 1,000,000 already in line waiting for the hearing. These children need to be treated as runaways, child abandonment, trafficking and kidnap victims and turned over to their country's Consulate for return to their country at their expense.

Originally Posted by Judy

What department are the "officials" with? DHS? So lets get this straight, the parents are self-deporting leaving their children behind to be deported some time in the future by DOJ. Is that the scam?

NO. The parents get deported NOW and the kids get to stay with relatives or family friends.
"Officials said at least 12 of the parents agreed to separate themselves from their children and leave them in the United States. Those children likely will be passed to close relatives of the migrants, many of whom are illegally in the United States."

not leaving behind to be deported but to find a loophole for the kids to stay,

The parents could ask the ACLU to help win asylum for their children, even after the parents have done home. One option for the children and youths is to seek so-called ” Special Immigrant Juvenile Status” which would allow a state judge to win federal green cards for youths on the grounds that they have been abandoned by their parents in the United States.