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    New York Democrats Move to Register Illegal Aliens, Non-Citizens to Vote Unless They

    New York Democrats Move to Register Illegal Aliens, Non-Citizens to Vote Unless They Opt Out

    Jan. 9, 2020
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    New York State Senate Democrats have advanced a plan that will automatically register to vote all residents who apply for a driver’s licenses — which now includes non-citizens and illegal aliens — unless they “opt-out.”

    On Thursday, Senate Senate Democrats passed legislation that will automatically register all residents who obtain driver’s licenses through the New York Department of Motor Vehicles (DMVs). As of this year, illegal aliens are able to obtain driver’s licenses in New York, indicating that illegal aliens and non-citizens will only be excluded from the state voter rolls if they check the “opt-out” box before applying for a license.

    New York Democrats have argued the law has safeguards in place to prevent non-citizens from registering to vote, including a provision that says DMVs shall not send voter registrations of ineligible applicants to the State Board of Elections:

    Notwithstanding any other law to the contrary, no agency designated under this section shall transmit to the State Board of Elections any application for registration for a person that is, by virtue of data collected by the agency during the same application for services or change of address or name transaction, demonstrably ineligible to register or pre-register to vote by reason of age or not being a citizen of the United States. [Emphasis added]

    Effectively, the New York law would place the burden to opt out of voter registration on non-citizens and illegal aliens, similar to that of California’s automatic voter registration law.

    New York Democrats have claimed the legislation will “reduce the incidence of voter registration fraud and voting fraud,” and “prevent erroneous disfranchisement of eligible citizens, promote greater participation of eligible voters in elections…”


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    New York May Give Automatic Voter Registration to Illegal Aliens with Driver’s Licenseshttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/07/new-york-may-give-automatic-voter-registration-to-illegal-aliens-with-drivers-licenses/ …


    9:43 PM - Jan 7, 2020

    Sponsoring the legislation is Democrat Michael Gianaris, and co-sponsors include Democrat Joe Addabbo Jr., Jamaal Bailey, Alessandra Biaggi, John Liu, Neil Breslin, and Liz Krueger.

    Currently in New York, American citizens only need a driver’s license to register to vote, and although applicants are required to swear that they are eligible to vote, state election officials have previously admitted that “it’s basically an honor system.”

    In June of last year, New York Republicans warned Breitbart News that the ultimate goal of Democrats in the state is to register all noncitizens and illegal aliens to vote in state and federal elections.

    In California, where illegal aliens are allowed to obtain driver’s licenses as well, voter fraud has become common across the state. In 2018, the state’s DMV admitted that it had registered 1,500 non-eligible voters, including noncitizens, over the course of just six months.

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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...izens-to-vote/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean View Post
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    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...izens-to-vote/
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    Government Accountability Institute (GAI) research director Eric Eggers told Breitbart News in 2018 that California’s laws giving driver’s licenses to illegal aliens and its latest law known as “ballot harvesting” — which allows political operatives to collect voters’ ballots and deliver them to polling stations — is potentially contributing to mass voter fraud across the state.
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    Fake News: New York Democrats Did NOT Move To Register Illegal Aliens, Noncitizens To Vote

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    • 11 hours ago (Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:27:51 Z)


    Did New York Democrats move to register illegal aliens and noncitizens to vote? No, that's not true: A state law in New York that took effect on December 14, 2019, allows undocumented immigrants to apply for driver's licenses. However, the measure does not permit noncitizens to register to vote, which is against the law. A separate piece of legislation passed by the state Senate on January 9, 2020, established an electronic voter registration process. That bill also does not allow noncitizens to register to vote.

    The claim originated from an article published by Geller Report on January 10, 2020, titled "New York Democrats Move to Register Illegal Aliens, Non-Citizens to Vote - Geller Report News" (archived here). It opened:

    The Democrat Party must be stopped.

    They are hell bent on destroying the United States, by hook or by crook.



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    The story cited a Breitbart article with the exact headline and claimed the legislation would allow illegal immigrants to automatically register to vote. Here's the beginning of the Breitbart story:

    New York Democrats Move to Register Illegal Aliens, Non-Citizens to Vote

    New York State Senate Democrats have advanced a plan that will automatically register to vote all residents who apply for a driver's licenses -- which now includes non-citizens and illegal aliens -- unless they "opt-out."

    By Breitbart
    , January 9th, 2019:

    On Thursday, Senate Senate Democrats passed legislation that will automatically register all residents who obtain driver's licenses through the New York Department of Motor Vehicles (DMVs).

    As of this year, illegal aliens are able to obtain driver's licenses in New York, indicating that illegal aliens and non-citizens will only be excluded from the state voter rolls if they check the "opt-out" box before applying for a license.

    New York Democrats pitched the legislation as an effort to "reduce the incidence of voter registration fraud and voting fraud," as well as to "prevent erroneous disfranchisement of eligible citizens, promote greater participation of eligible voters in elections..."

    This is not true. Both articles link to new legislation, (S6457B), which passed the state Senate on January 9, 2020, and aims to establish an electronic voter registration system. But they fail to mention this key paragraph from the actual bill:

    5. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW TO THE CONTRARY, NO AGENCY DESIGNATED
    UNDER THIS SECTION SHALL TRANSMIT TO THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS ANY
    APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION FOR A PERSON THAT IS, BY VIRTUE OF DATA
    COLLECTED BY THE AGENCY DURING THE SAME APPLICATION FOR SERVICES OR
    CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR NAME TRANSACTION, DEMONSTRABLY INELIGIBLE TO REGIS-
    TER OR PRE-REGISTER TO VOTE BY REASON OF AGE OR NOT BEING A CITIZEN OF
    THE UNITED STATES.


    The bill went on to mention that individuals must meet eligibility requirements for voter registration. To register in New York, an individual must be a citizen of the United States. A summary of the bill noted that the measure "requires the state board of elections to promulgate necessary rules and regulations."


    On June 17, 2019, Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a separate legislation, which allowed immigrants to register for driver's licenses. Twelve other U.S. states have similar laws.


    Supporters of the measure
    said it allows immigrants to get insurance without fearing deportation if they are pulled over or get into accidents. They cited statistics suggesting fewer hit-and-rush crashes as a result of a similar law. Opponents of the bill said driving is a privilege that should be afforded to people who live in the country legally.


    Regardless, the new measure clearly states that noncitizens are not eligible to register to vote when they apply for a driver's license. A federal law enacted in 1996 forbids them from voting in federal elections. Violators face fines, imprisonment and deportation.


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    They should not be able to obtain state drivers licenses, because international law has already made provisions for foreign persons to drive in other countries. There is a purpose behind those international agreements, and it is not individual states' prerogatives to usurp them.
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    It is against the LAW to give illegal aliens government issued drivers licenses!

    That is violation of Federal Immigration & Visa Laws aiding and abetting foreigners who have no authorization to be on our soil.

    If I am legally in Mexico, I use my USA drivers license to drive in their country.

    I do not go to Mexico and apply for a Mexican drivers license!
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