Thread: SPP COMING OUT IN THE OPEN

No CheyenneWoman, You haven't been sleeping and you are not alone. This is one of the "lies by omission" that the MSM is guilty of...one of the biggest. I didn't know about this until mid-March, so don't feel badly.

Oh, I had heard a whisper, here or there, but of course, thought people who believed our gov't would do such a thing, were 'conspiracy nuts." After all, news junkie me, would have heard all about it, right?

Well, I guess I'm a nut now too.

What can we do? We can focus on illegal immigration and secured borders. The Globalists won't suceed, as long as we (the USA) remains strong. I believe that the Mexicans are being used to help disrupt our country. This is MY OPINION, only. But it's the only logical reason I can think of, that after 9/11/2001, in 7/2006, we DO NOT have secure borders.

That's why I'm here at ALIPAC, trying to do what I can, in my own small way. Trying to help wake citizens, like we were, up!

I get ideas and info here, and spread 'em around.

See, the only problem is.........did they take their oath under Washington, DC's Constitution or The United States Constitution? Do they abide by THEIR Constitution or OURS? Clearly it's THEIRS.
There is a difference ever since the treason by our Congressmen in 1871.
Since that time Washington DC has had it's own Constitution........
Our country has lived in a lie ever since 1871.
Look up "The Act of 1871" it will tell you all about it.

More on ‘merger’: Three nations under God?

One of the good things about writing an opinion column is that you hear back from readers with their opinions, too.

Sometimes they will write about their own philosophy of life, their belief system, or their heartfelt concerns. Other times, they will encourage me to read a particular writer or look into a particular subject. That means I am constantly being challenged to absorb new information and points of view.

While on occasion these friendly suggestions are meant to re-educate me (”War is bad, peace is good,” in case you didn’t know) — more often they are legitimate invitations to learn about some aspect of the world that might be an interesting topic for this column.

Such was the case in recent weeks after I wrote several columns on the topic of illegal immigration. In one of those columns I referred to the McCain-Kennedy-Bush “reform” plan as a proposed “merger” with Mexico, and lamented that the “shareholders” of the United States had not been consulted about the merger.

I chose the language intentionally to dramatize the point that U.S. sovereignty was on the verge of being given away, but I thought the idea of a merger was a colorful exaggeration that would be useful to make my point. Now I find out, thanks to the help of several readers, that it was no exaggeration at all, and that the McCain-Kennedy reform plan is not the starting point for the merger, but just one more steppingstone in a path being built for several years.

It has the sound of a global thriller, right? People in high places plotting to advance their own self-interest while the little people go about their business oblivious to the great forces at work all around them. But of course that is not just the stuff of Tom Clancy novels; it’s the way the world really works.

In this case, we have the presidents of the United States and Mexico and the former prime minister of Canada meeting at the president’s ranch at Crawford, Texas, on March 23, 2005. On that day, President Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Mexican President Vicente Fox announced the establishment of the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.”

It has all the makings of a treaty. It is in fact an agreement between three countries to regulate trade, health care, emergency management and the environment. Yet it has not been presented to the Senate for ratification, nor have the people of the Unites States been consulted. Instead, the “partnership” was born full-grown out of that Texas summit like Athena springing from the head of Zeus in battle gear.

The name itself, Security and Prosperity Partnership of

North America, sounds suspiciously like the announcement of a merger, doesn’t it? But you don’t have to take my word for it. You can visit the official Web site at www.spp.gov or read about it by doing a Google search for “North American Union.”

You won’t find any explicit acknowledgment that the ultimate goal is to combine these three nations into a sort of North American version of the European Union, but the signs are all there. And if you need any proof that the U.S. government would be willing to cede part of its powers to a foreign government, you just need to look closely at the Senate/Bush amnesty plan for illegal immigrants, which is basically a federally funded bailout plan for the Mexican economy.

So what’s the problem with helping Mexico and Canada? Probably nothing in itself. The United States has been helping other countries for the past hundred years, but this goes beyond helping a neighbor.

We need to recognize the impulse to globalization that has taken hold in the past 20 years, and understand who that helps and hurts. It was the first President Bush who announced the coming of the “New World Order” after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and it wasn’t long afterwards that the European Union started to come into shape, forcing the ancient states of Europe to give up their monetary independence and inevitably enmeshing them into one superstate.

Such growth toward globalization may be a healthy instinct in some respects. If it works, it could lessen the chance of war and increase cooperation among all peoples. But the downside is that it results in a hybridization and flattening of all human experience. Eventually it could lead to a world where there is no room left for freedom such as the world of “1984.” If the American experiment in liberty is considered expendable in the interests of helping to feed hungry mouths elsewhere in the world, then we are all in trouble.

No one can prove such a plan exists, but there is plenty of evidence that there is a government-sponsored effort under way to change forever the relationship between Mexico, the United States and Canada. It is spelled out in detail on the federal government’s own Web sites. In addition, there is the 2005 report of the quasi-private Council on Foreign Relations, which proposes “the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity.” (Download it at www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a ... unity.html)

To me, that idea of a “North American community” sounds like a European Union for North America. In fact, it sounds like a new country. As the Council on Foreign Relations task force wrote: “Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe.”

Forget about amnesty for illegal immigrants. That is the least of our problems. This plan calls for the legal and orderly “movement of people” across our former borders as a matter of economic necessity. It says that by 2010 the three nations should “lay the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America.”

If and when that happens, it will be hard to recognize where the United States ends and Mexico begins, but one thing is sure: It will be the beginning of the end for the United States of America as we know it.

http://dailyinterlake.com/articles/2006 ... umns01.txt

I sent an email the the writer of this article, Mr. Miele this AM. It's posted here:

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=33381

The SPP treaty is not enforceable until it is approved. UNLESS of course they have deluded themselves completely regarding the "unilateral presidency

It is NOT called a treaty, but an AGREEMENT which is how they got it around Congress!!!

White House will not let Congress see it

So that means that not only is Bush guilty of obstruction of justice, the Senate and Congress are not standing up and accusing him of superceding his power..they are spinless for not doing so. The people in power in Washington are the only ones who can call for a full judicial investigation. Why aren't they doing this?? Is it because they're chickens..are they being threatend?

No 'agreement' should be binding unless our Congress approves it. In my opinion, the agreement is not binding and should be tossed out..along with GWB. He's a traitor, impeach the idiot boy.

Hey folks -- they're all in bed together -- remember!! Congressmen who are members of the CFR and the Traitor are all after the same thing -- money!

Finally everybody is waking up, I have been reading, receiving e-mails from different sites, watching different news and catching one word here , there, then I figure out the complot against this country. For sure each and every one in the goverment knew what was going on, but this involves lots and lots of money and great powers.CURRUPTION Maybe there are some fews who didn' corrupt themselves but the big majority I'm sure knew. Even this war now I think it was a cover up to distract the American public so they could work more freely.
I was a Bush strong supporter until I figure out his machiavelism,also a Republican , today I don't know who I'm going to vote for . I don't trust anybody. This is a first world country, our people know what means to fight and die for the love of their country, in the third world this dosen't mean anything, they fight for their machism , for food, to implement comunism..., it's a complet diferent mentallity, and we are importing all this garbage into this country with the cumplicity of our leaders.

Originally Posted by minnie

Finally everybody is waking up, I have been reading, receiving e-mails from different sites, watching different news and catching one word here , there, then I figure out the complot against this country. For sure each and every one in the goverment knew what was going on, but this involves lots and lots of money and great powers.CURRUPTION Maybe there are some fews who didn' corrupt themselves but the big majority I'm sure knew. Even this war now I think it was a cover up to distract the American public so they could work more freely.
I was a Bush strong supporter until I figure out his machiavelism,also a Republican , today I don't know who I'm going to vote for . I don't trust anybody. This is a first world country, our people know what means to fight and die for the love of their country, in the third world this dosen't mean anything, they fight for their machism , for food, to implement comunism..., it's a complet diferent mentallity, and we are importing all this garbage into this country with the cumplicity of our leaders.

Minnie:

I decided I'm an Independent. There are decent politicians out there and I'll try to vote for them when I can. Party loyalty is a thing of the past.

Maybe we can vote the bad news guys out of office, and elect some responsible legislators. Then, Congress might figure out that we're not going to sit still for this stuff any more.

Hi CheyenneWoman,

Minnie:

I decided I'm an Independent. There are decent politicians out there and I'll try to vote for them when I can. Party loyalty is a thing of the past.

Maybe we can vote the bad news guys out of office, and elect some responsible legislators. Then, Congress might figure out that we'renot going to sit still for this stuff any more.

I agree with you 100%.