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    "It's time the Bush administration to come clean," Gilchrist told WND. "If President Bush's agenda is to establish a new North American union government to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, then the president has an obligation to tell this to the American people directly. The American public has a right to know."
    Yea, that's right, but such a transformation of our government would have to come from the people not from he or anyone else as an elected official. It would be a felony to bypass Congress and the American people. If such a deal was signed by our President without going through the proper channels, then he should be brought up on charges. He's got a record now doing that. His back door decisions are treasonous.

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    This is from pg. 26 of the report from the May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report. This report has the objectives that the SPP working groups are working to achieve.

    Just thought this was interesting!!!

    www.cfr.org/content/publications/attach ... _final.pdf


    Increase Labor Mobility within North America
    People are North America’s greatest asset. Goods and services cross
    borders easily; ensuring the legal transit of North American workers
    has been more difficult. Experience with the NAFTA visa system
    suggests that its procedures need to be simplified, and such visas should
    be made available to a wider range of occupations and to additional
    categories of individuals such as students, professors, bona fide frequent
    visitors, and retirees.
    To make the most of the impressive pool of skill and talent within
    North America, the three countries should look beyond the NAFTA
    visa system. The large volume of undocumentedmigrants fromMexico
    within the United States is an urgent matter for those two countries
    to address. A long-term goal should be to create a ‘‘North American
    preference’’—new rules that would make it much easier for employees
    to move and for employers to recruit across national boundaries within
    the continent. This would enhance North American competitiveness,
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    increase productivity, contribute to Mexico’s development, and address
    oneof the main outstanding issues ontheMexican-U.S. bilateral agenda.
    Canada andtheUnited States should consider eliminating restrictions
    on labor mobility altogether and work toward solutions that, in the
    long run, could enable the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico
    as well.
    WHAT WE SHOULD DO NOW
    • Expand temporary migrant worker programs. Canada and the
    United States should expand programs for temporary labor migration
    from Mexico. For instance, Canada’s successful model for managing
    seasonal migration in the agricultural sector should be expanded to
    other sectors where Canadian producers face a shortage of workers
    and Mexico may have a surplus of workers with appropriate skills.
    Canadian and U.S. retirees living in Mexico should be granted
    working permits in certain fields, for instance as English teachers.
    • Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement
    negotiated between the United States andMexico. This agreement
    would recognize payroll contributions to each other’s systems,
    thus preventing double taxation.
    WHAT WE SHOULD DO BY 2010
    • Create a ‘‘North American preference.’’ Canada, the United
    States, and Mexico should agree on streamlined immigration and
    labor mobility rules that enable citizens of all three countries to
    work elsewhere in North America with far fewer restrictions than
    immigrants from other countries. This new system should be both
    broader and simpler than the current systemofNAFTAvisas. Special
    immigration status should be given to teachers, faculty, and students
    in the region.
    • Move to full labor mobility between Canada and the United
    States. To make companies based in North America as competitive
    as possible in the global economy, Canada and the United States
    should consider eliminating all remaining barriers to the ability of
    their citizens to live and work in the other country. This free flow
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    of people would offer an important advantage to employers in both
    countries by giving them rapid access to a larger pool of skilled labor,
    and would enhance the well-being of individuals in both countries
    by enabling them to move quickly to where their skills are needed.
    In the long term, the two countries should work to extend this
    policy to Mexico as well, though doing so will not be practical until
    wage differentials between Mexico and its two North American
    neighbors have diminished considerably.
    • Mutual recognition of professional standards and degrees.
    Professional associations in each of the three countries make decisions
    on the standards to accept professionals from other countries. But
    despite the fact thatNAFTA already encourages themutual recognition
    of professional degrees, little has actually been done. The three
    governments should devote more resources to leading and creating
    incentives that would encourage the professional associations of each
    of the three countries to develop shared standards that would
    facilitate short-term professional labor mobility within North
    America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiela
    I sent him the original document they signed. It has all their signatures on it. Bush, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld among others.
    do you have a link with the signatures on it?

    thanks
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    Here is a link.........it's to a PDF file that I cannot copy, but you really need to read this.............wait till you get to page 49 of it..........it shows you what the US and Mexico has planned to do as far as immigration goes.
    After you read this Task Force I know you will agree we HAVE to get Bush out of that office. Nobody is going to like what they are planning to do.

    http://www.cfr.org/content/publications ... _final.pdf
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    Again! Tom Tancredo came threw for us! There is no one better suited to be our Next President, please support him people, Thanx!
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    When I went on the SPP site a lot of the rhetoric was security. I don't know how you are gaining security by opening yourself up for more ways to enter the US and threatening the interior with a port. How can an open door policy be safe? Also, I heard they want to share the US GPS system with Canada and Mexico and something else that is exclusive to our aviation industry. No thank you. Open our air space up to Mexican drug traffic!!!!!! We know how dangerous someone in an airplane can be. Not only that, we know how poorly Mexico maintains it's vehicles, can you think of the planes.

    Believe me, there is more than one group. I went and looked at the Kansas City deal and there are multi groups working on it. Also, the City Council is involved. I'm concerned about my council too.

    Also, you know wealthy people want to keep this quiet because they are the ones that will make the money off of it. Politicians have become the campaign funds puppets of wealth and big business. We have got to take our elective power back from the top 1% and big business.\

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    Yes, Mamie.......here's the link

    http://www.fac-aec.gc.ca/spp/spp-report.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiela
    Yes, Mamie.......here's the link

    http://www.fac-aec.gc.ca/spp/spp-report.pdf
    thanks, I can't get it to open but I did see the Canadian leaf in the address though
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    Mamie, you have to have Adobe reader to read it. You can get that free if you don't have it.
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