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    Trump on declaring national emergency: 'Not going to do it so fast'

    Trump on declaring national emergency: 'Not going to do it so fast'

    By Jordan Fabian - 01/11/19 03:13 PM EST

    President Trump on Friday said he might hold off on declaring a national emergency to circumvent Congress and begin building his long-promised border wall, at least for the time being.

    Trump told reporters at the White House that he has the authority to make an emergency declaration to jump-start wall construction, but said, “I’m not going to do it so fast.”

    The president reiterated that he prefers to work out a deal with Democrats in Congress, even though no agreement appears to be in sight after the partial government shutdown stretched into its 21st day.

    “We want Congress to do its job,” Trump said. “What we're not looking to do right now is national emergency.”

    The president's comments come even as some of his close GOP allies have urged him to make the declaration, saying that negotiations with congressional Democrats have become hopeless.

    “It’s clear to both of us that Democrats don’t want to make a deal and will never support border wall/barriers on President Trump’s watch,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said after meeting with Trump at the White House. “Mr. President, declare a national emergency now. Build a wall now.”

    The White House is now making preparations for the shutdown to last weeks longer, an administration official confirmed to The Hill.

    The Office of Management and Budget is gearing up for the partial shutdown to continue through February and aides have discussed using Trump's Jan. 29 State of the Union to admonish Democrats over their opposition to his $5.7 billion request for border-wall funding.

    The details of those discussions were first reported by The Wall Street Journal.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-do-it-so-fast

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    They better figure something out. That new caravan is coming.

    Read here today that our government released a group of teenagers from detention into our country. Things are not getting better. Days are going by and numbers grow.

    Aiding and abetting by the Trump administration. Catching and releasing illegally present foreign citizens into our communities, many who will have children is not good.
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    Geez, what got into Graham Lindsey? Maybe he has been hitting the Jack Daniels lately? Good for him.
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    He's too busy giving citizenship to foreign workers to be concerned about an invasion in our own country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Trump on declaring national emergency: 'Not going to do it so fast'
    Of course not. He's a traitor. At this point, I could really care less if Trump gets impeached. He's broken one promise after another to us. Maybe Pence can do a better job. Hell, I kinda would like to see what Pence would do if he were president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man View Post
    Of course not. He's a traitor. At this point, I could really care less if Trump gets impeached. He's broken one promise after another to us. Maybe Pence can do a better job. Hell, I kinda would like to see what Pence would do if he were president.



    Million Dollar Man ---we are close to being on the same page. I'm not sure at all about Pence, but agree that Trump is a traitor.

    His entire campaign was a lie, he knew exactly what to say to get elected (read the comments at Conservative news sites) and planned his campaign on them. He had no intention of doing anything he promised, he has proven that over and over again. He had his own plans for after he got our votes, and we are seeing the results of that now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man View Post
    Of course not. He's a traitor. At this point, I could really care less if Trump gets impeached. He's broken one promise after another to us. Maybe Pence can do a better job. Hell, I kinda would like to see what Pence would do if he were president.
    There will be another election in less than 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man View Post
    Of course not. He's a traitor. At this point, I could really care less if Trump gets impeached. He's broken one promise after another to us. Maybe Pence can do a better job. Hell, I kinda would like to see what Pence would do if he were president.
    Let's not forget Pence's "touchback" amnesty?
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    Let's not forget Pence's "touchback" amnesty?
    That "touchback" amnesty may be why President Trump selected Pence as his VP. They seem to share the same thoughts on a touchback amnesty.

    Flash to the past:

    Trump supports undocumented US illegal immigrant amnesty!

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    Tue, 2016-02-16 02:28 PMWritten by:
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    Donald Trump is in favor of granting amnesty to the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the US, according to an opinion piece published on Newsweek online. The frontrunner for the Republican Presidential candidacy has always promised to create a 'deportation force' to extradite every last one of the 11 million undocumented migrants. However, apparently, under his US immigration plan Trump would 'move em back.'

    Supporters of the real estate tycoon have given their backing for his plans to tackle illegal immigration in the US. Yet, they appear to have overlooked Trump's other promise that those deported will be allowed to return. Barring those with criminal records, nearly all of the 11 million illegal foreign nationals will have the opportunity to return and apply for some form of legal immigrant status to remain in the US.

    Trump's Pro-Illegal Immigrant Amnesty Policies

    Trump's support for an undocumented migrant amnesty is a far cry from his usual US immigration rhetoric. Much of his Presidential campaign has been spent vilifying immigrants, especially Mexicans - who he branded as 'rapists' – and Muslims, who he wants to ban from entering the US.

    However, Donald Trump's son, Eric, has grown increasingly frustrated with how the media – particularly the Fox News Network – vilifies his father. During an interview with Fox News on November 12, 2015, Eric Trump tried to clarify his father's stance concerning the deportation of illegal immigrants.

    Eric Trump said: "The point isn't just deporting them, it's deporting them and letting them back in legally. He's been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it is deporting them and letting them back legally."

    It appears that Eric Trump is correct in his assessment of his father's comments. Going back to a CNN interview with Dana Brash in July 2015, Trump outlined his plans like this:
    "I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal….

    A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal."

    Trump's 'Touchback' Immigration Policy to allow immigrants to return

    What Donald Trump is proposing is known as the 'touchback' policy, but it's not a new concept. The policy was actually put forward by Kay Bailey Hutchison, a moderate Republican Senator (Texas). The 'touchback' policy was proposed as an amendment on the Senate floor in 2007 and would require illegal immigrants to return to their home nations in order to apply for a special 'Z visa'.


    The 'Z visa' would permit those illegal immigrants – who left the US – to return to the country at an accelerated rate. This would allow entry faster than would usually be the case when applying for an US immigrant visa, and would enable the now lawful immigrant to continue to work in the US for any employer. However, the amendment was never passed, losing by a small margin, 53 – 45.

    The policy was supported by the majority of Republicans, even gaining five votes from the Democratic Party with senators Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voting in favor.

    Trump's plan endorsed by the New York Times

    The policy was considered so good that even The New York Times endorsed it. In an editorial titled 'Progress on Immigration,' The New York Times stated: "It's not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible."

    In effect, Trump is proposing something similar (actually it seems a more generous immigration policy) as part of his US immigration policy - sending illegal immigrants back to their home countries and then allowing those without criminal records to return quickly to the US - an idea endorsed by The New York Times. The idea has even been backed by illegal immigrants.

    The first ever telephone poll of illegal immigrants - carried out by The Los Angeles Times in 2007 – asked if they would return to their home countries under a 'touchback' law that would allow them to return with legal status. 63 per cent said they would, 27 per cent said they would refuse, while 10 per cent were undecided. When offered a route to US citizenship, the number who said they would leave and return legally increased to 85 per cent.

    Illegal immigrants support touchback policy

    The vast majority of illegal immigrants have said they would voluntarily comply with what Trump is proposing, therefore removing the need for a deportation force, which, anyway, already exists in the form of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
    However, Trump's plan remains controversial, after all, the touchback policy would see those illegal immigrants who leave and return fast-tracked back into the country ahead of those who have actually complied with US immigration laws.

    An editorial piece published in National Review back in 2007 actually draws attention to this. The publication labelled touchback 'a fraud that gives illegal aliens their own privileged pathway ahead of applicants who have complied with US immigration laws.'
    Essentially, what this means is that for all Trump's anti undocumented immigrant rhetoric, he might actually want to grant amnesty to nearly all of the millions of illegal immigrants currently residing in the country. Many people will surely think this is bizarre in view of his, apparently hard-line anti-Hispanic immigrant views. However, it is also widely believed that Trump needs illegal immigrants to work at Trump construction sites.

    https://workpermit.com/news/trump-su...nesty-20160216





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