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    Fox News needs to start re-running Trumps own words back to him!



    WHAT HAPPENED TO AMERICAN'S FIRST?

    NO H1-B WORKERS...START SHIPPING THEM OUT!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    GOP front-runner Donald Trump said the H-1B hurts American-born workers and that he would end it outright.

    “I know the H-1B very well. … We shouldn’t have it; it’s very, very bad for workers,” said Trump,
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    There it is for all the world to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    GOP front-runner Donald Trump said the H-1B hurts American-born workers and that he would end it outright.

    “I know the H-1B very well. … We shouldn’t have it; it’s very, very bad for workers,” said Trump,
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    There it is for all the world to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    Fox News needs to start re-running Trumps own words back to him!



    WHAT HAPPENED TO AMERICAN'S FIRST?

    NO H1-B WORKERS...START SHIPPING THEM OUT!
    You're right. Trump was inconsistent on a number of issues during the campaign. Sometimes I didn't know where he was coming from one day to the next.

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    What next Trump...work visa's for their wives and family members? Citizenship for their babies?

    Free pass to break our laws? Free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, school, housing, college education funds?

    How about Door Number Two Monty Hall...free car, electric, water, cable TV and internet too?


    IS THIS THE REAL "LET'S MAKE A DEAL" TO SELL OUT AMERICA????









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    While we're on the subject, it appears Trump was also an abuser of the H-1B visas program prior to becoming President:


    Trump Agency pays foreign model wages below poverty line

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    by friendoftheimmigrant



    Donald Trump has made several loud statements in opposition to immigration. In fact, on his website you can find a section titled “Put America’s Workers First,” with a subsection on increasing prevailing wages for H-1B’s. It’s a pretty typical move, but what Mr. Trump seems to have forgotten is that his own company, Trump Model Management, has been using the H-1B visa for years to lure in exotic models and pass them through the border without a hitch. He has hired roughly 30 foreign models in the past 8 years.

    The basis of an H-1B visa is to have workers from foreign countries come to America only after a specific company requests them personally, promises to pay a certain wage, and goes through the paperwork process through the USCIS and Department of Labor. Trump’s agency went through all of the steps, but as model Alexia Palmer, a recipient of Trump’s “generosity” points out, they do not always keep up their end of the bargain.
    The company petitioning for the H-1B visa on behalf of the foreign employee must pay the employee either the promised amount submitted on the application or the “prevailing wage” as determined by the Department of Labor, whichever is higher. The prevailing wage is the lowest amount the employee can be paid. Trump’s agency stated on their application, which is signed under penalty of perjury, that Palmer would be paid $75,000 per year. The prevailing wage was $45,000. The reality of the situation? Palmer was paid roughly $30,000…in a total of three years. Even if, as Trump’s spokespeople have stated, Palmer did not bring in the number of jobs they’d hoped for, the agency is still legally required to pay her the $75,000 a year. They not only broke the law, they paid an immigrant who is legally bound to work for only Trump Model management as a condition of her visa a wage below the poverty line ($11,770/yr as of 2015). And so begins the lawsuit.



    So Trump fudged some paperwork, it’s been said that the number given was a “guesstimate,” and this woman is barely being paid enough to live in the US. Now Trump has the audacity to put on his website that the US should “increase prevailing wages for H-1Bs” When he himself doesn’t pay the current prevailing wage? If he thinks people will pay a higher prevailing wage as a way to put more Americans to work, he should really look in a mirror. Increasing the prevailing wage will almost certainly cause more people to “fudge” on the application and then just pay whatever they want to pay, just as Trump did. This is not an isolated instance and is actually common with these types of visas. These occurrences are likely to grow once the prevailing wage is higher. So what do you think about his H-1B plan? Leave your comments below.

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    Trump’s site on Immigration Reform
    Written by: Bailey Nunez

    https://friendoftheimmigrant.wordpre...overty-line-2/

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    SHUT THE WHOLE PROGRAM DOWN!

    WE HAVE OUR OWN BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE AND OUR OWN "BEST AND BRIGHTEST"!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    How do you know pathway to citizenship = green card? Do you have inside sources?

    You just said they already have a green card, so giving them a green card certainly would not be news.
    No, they are already eligible for green cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    While we're on the subject, it appears Trump was also an abuser of the H-1B visas program prior to becoming President:


    Trump Agency pays foreign model wages below poverty line

    Mar18

    by friendoftheimmigrant



    Donald Trump has made several loud statements in opposition to immigration. In fact, on his website you can find a section titled “Put America’s Workers First,” with a subsection on increasing prevailing wages for H-1B’s. It’s a pretty typical move, but what Mr. Trump seems to have forgotten is that his own company, Trump Model Management, has been using the H-1B visa for years to lure in exotic models and pass them through the border without a hitch. He has hired roughly 30 foreign models in the past 8 years.

    The basis of an H-1B visa is to have workers from foreign countries come to America only after a specific company requests them personally, promises to pay a certain wage, and goes through the paperwork process through the USCIS and Department of Labor. Trump’s agency went through all of the steps, but as model Alexia Palmer, a recipient of Trump’s “generosity” points out, they do not always keep up their end of the bargain.
    The company petitioning for the H-1B visa on behalf of the foreign employee must pay the employee either the promised amount submitted on the application or the “prevailing wage” as determined by the Department of Labor, whichever is higher. The prevailing wage is the lowest amount the employee can be paid. Trump’s agency stated on their application, which is signed under penalty of perjury, that Palmer would be paid $75,000 per year. The prevailing wage was $45,000. The reality of the situation? Palmer was paid roughly $30,000…in a total of three years. Even if, as Trump’s spokespeople have stated, Palmer did not bring in the number of jobs they’d hoped for, the agency is still legally required to pay her the $75,000 a year. They not only broke the law, they paid an immigrant who is legally bound to work for only Trump Model management as a condition of her visa a wage below the poverty line ($11,770/yr as of 2015). And so begins the lawsuit.



    So Trump fudged some paperwork, it’s been said that the number given was a “guesstimate,” and this woman is barely being paid enough to live in the US. Now Trump has the audacity to put on his website that the US should “increase prevailing wages for H-1Bs” When he himself doesn’t pay the current prevailing wage? If he thinks people will pay a higher prevailing wage as a way to put more Americans to work, he should really look in a mirror. Increasing the prevailing wage will almost certainly cause more people to “fudge” on the application and then just pay whatever they want to pay, just as Trump did. This is not an isolated instance and is actually common with these types of visas. These occurrences are likely to grow once the prevailing wage is higher. So what do you think about his H-1B plan? Leave your comments below.

    Original CNN story
    Trump’s site on Immigration Reform
    Written by: Bailey Nunez

    https://friendoftheimmigrant.wordpre...overty-line-2/
    That's old news. That was posted during the campaign.
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    Trump's actual words without the spin.


    “H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.”


    H1B News: Trump Tweet Promises Changes for Visa Holders


    William White
    InvestorPlace January 11, 2019

    President Donald Trump has some H1B news for those holding these visas in the U.S.


    H1B News: Trump Tweet Promises Changes for Visa Holders More
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    The H1B news from President Donald Trump comes in a Tweet from his personal Twitter(NYSE:TWTR) account.
    It reads as follows.


    “H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.”


    While this H1B news is good for holders of the visas, there are some arguments over it.

    This includes the following responses to President Trump’s Tweet about the changes.


    • “So if you are smart you are allowed in, but if you are fleeing for your life and your children’s lives, you have to stay on the other side of your imaginary wall? I commend you continuing the H1-B, but trying to act all high and mighty over this is a joke.”
    • “Mr. President, what about American tech workers who are being displaced by H-1B guest workers and recent college grads who can’t find jobs in STEM fields? American workers are truly the best and brightest. You pledged to put American workers first. This isn’t it.”
    • “Legal immigration is a bedrock of American success story in the world. Immigration dialog in political sphere grossly mistreat the legal professional immigration issues. I’m glad our President is looking into this important aspect of the immigration. Separate Iillegal and legal.”



    This isn’t the first time that President Trump has announced H1B news. The President made other changes back in 2017 that made it more difficult for some workers to come to the U.S. via the H1B program.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/h1b-n...172317125.html

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