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    Quote Originally Posted by redpony353
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    They dont say how much the job pays. How do they expect to get applicants without pay? People apply for a job to get a paycheck.
    There are ads in the the S.D.U.T. twice a year for field workers for the tomato fields north of Oceanside. I think the last time I saw the ad the pay was $10.50 or $10.75 an hour, plus reimbursement for your bus ticket from where ever you are to the San Diego area, company supplied tools, etc. for a 5 month contract.

    They have to run those ads and when they don't get enough applicants they get to get work visas for people willing to come to the U.S. to do field work. They also must list the jobs with the California Employment Development Department, and the ads are on the internet list for employment offices nationwide.
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    [quote="NoBueno"]First of all, this is nothing more than a publicity stunt since less than 1% of the illegal invaders in this country work in agriculture! The farm workers are not the problem per se. If this was only about “farm workers,â€
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    In 2002 immigrant workers were paid $8.02 plus housing, in some areas.

    U.S. workers were paid $6.75.


    Farm workers claim grower violated laws on hiring, pay

    Lawsuit alleges they were displaced by foreign help

    By Leonel Sanchez
    UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

    November 1, 2002

    The workers in Coachella Valley knew something was wrong in September when their employer canceled their bus service to North County to pick tomatoes.

    Days later they learned that Harry Singh & Sons had replaced them with more than 160 temporary workers from Mexico. The Mexican workers were provided housing and paid $8.02 an hour in compliance with a federal guest-worker program that allows growers to import foreign labor when domestic workers are unavailable.

    The Coachella workers are suing the North County-based grower, alleging federal labor violations, saying they were displaced by foreign workers despite a willingness by the Coachella hands to do the same work.

    The workers allege that Singh failed to make a good-faith effort to recruit domestic workers and that they were paid less than what the foreign workers are earning. The U.S. workers, who were paid $6.75 an hour, are seeking lost wages and other damages.

    "We believe these workers have a right to their jobs," said Dorothy Johnson of California Rural Legal Assistance, which is representing the workers. The guest-worker program "makes it clear that it is not supposed to adversely affect U.S. workers."

    U.S. District Judge Judith Keep issued a preliminary injunction this week ordering Singh to send letters to the Coachella workers offering them a chance to apply for work at the same pay as the foreign workers get. The grower does not have to provide bus service, however.

    The lawsuit is the second high-profile court case filed in California this year involving the guest-worker program.

    Farm worker advocates in September filed suit against a Ventura County labor contractor, alleging he failed to fully pay foreign workers brought in under the federal program.

    The San Diego and Ventura lawsuits come at a time when growers nationwide want to expand the guest-worker program and make it easier to implement.

    Critics of the program say it's not needed in California because there is a surplus of farm workers.

    Few of the 45,000 laborers admitted each year into the United States under the agricultural guest-worker program come to California.

    Growers contend that California is ripe for a labor shortage, as documented workers leave the field for more stable jobs and as the undocumented workers who replace them become more vulnerable to tighter immigration controls.

    Singh's lawyer, Merrill Storms said the grower decided to seek foreign workers after the Immigration and Naturalization Service in July detained three-fourths of his client's workers on their way to work in the fields leased at Camp Pendleton. Storms said efforts to recruit enough local workers for the tomato harvest season were unsuccessful.

    Singh, despite advertising for help, couldn't find enough workers and lost $2.5 million in business as a result of the labor shortage, Storms said.

    "We had 480 legal workers. We needed 650. If we could've found those workers we would've used them," Storms said. "It's costing us a lot more money to (hire foreign workers) but it's saving our harvest."

    Storms said his client raised the pay of all field workers to $8.02 an hour to comply with the guest-worker program.

    Prior to the arrival of the Mexican workers, Singh hired about 50 workers from the Coachella Valley in Riverside County and provided a bus service to pick them up about 3 a.m. and return them home past 7 p.m., Storms said.

    Singh says the attendance of the Coachella workers was sporadic and unreliable, however.

    "We needed a steady work force available," Storms said.

    In their lawsuit, the workers allege they were told by a supervisor on Sept. 21 that the grower "had no more work for them . . . because the bus was too expensive." The suit also said "if they could find housing in Oceanside they could continue to work."

    Singh has been in court before over labor issues. In the late 1990s, the grower agreed to pay $172,498 to settle a lawsuit with the state over unpaid overtime wages for migrant workers.

    Also in the 1990s, the federal government named Singh its Agricultural Employer of the Year for the Western Region, for building a $2.5 million dormitory-style housing unit for migrant workers. That is where the 168 workers brought in from Mexico are staying.

    Singh has permission from the U.S. Department of Labor to employ up to 200 "non-immigrant workers" from Sept. 26 to Dec. 15.

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    I was referred to this slave wage job from Simply Hired:

    https://www.michworks.org/mtb/user/pkg_ ... type=PRINT

    Job Order Number: 2911524 Job last updated: June 23, 2010

    Company name: MICHIGAN SUMMER BLUEBERRIES INC.
    Product line/service: Blueberry Processor

    Job title: General Farm Worker
    Employment Availability: Part Time
    Job Position: Seasonal
    Hours per week: 40
    Job(s) available: 30

    Job location: Bangor

    Salary: From $ 7.40 To $ 7.40 per hour.


    Job description: Will hand harvest fresh market blueberries at $.41 cents per pound. The employer guarantees the State of Michigan minimum wage of $7.40 per hour. The crop condition is good. Work will start at approximately 20 hours per week and will increase to 40 hours plus as the crop quantity increases. There will an estimated 75 or more acres of blueberries that will be hand and machine harvested. Work may last until mid September. Drive out work only.

    Job requirements: This job requires less than high school education and less than 1 years of experience.


    Additional requirements: Must have own transportation. Work is drive-out only.

    Directions to business: From Hartford take CR 681 north to Bangor. Employer is located on the west side behind the Harding's Store in Bangor.
    Please apply by Phone or in person .

    Contact: MINERVA BURGOS Business name: MICHIGAN SUMMER BLUEBERRIES INC.
    Phone: (269)767-2440 Address: 111 Pine Street
    Fax: Bangor, MI 49013
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    "San Diego's tomato business is worth about $88 million annually. The nursery business is worth $1 billion."

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    Here is an actual job posting from CalJobs. Little confusing in that the heading states job site is in Sacramento, but below, it states
    Job site is in Refugio, Texas



    Job Number: CA10759295
    Job Title: AGRICULTURAL WORKERS
    City of Job: Sacramento
    Experience Required: None
    Start Date:
    Rate of Pay: $9.78/hour
    Duration: Temporary
    Hours Per Week: 40plus
    Shift: Day
    Education Required: Not stated
    California Drivers
    License: None
    Federal Government
    Contract: No

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    Job Duties:
    Job site is in Refugio, Texas
    and the anticipated period of employment is 06/20/10 through 04/20/11. Assisting with getting cotton trailers ready for harvesting cotton, checking wheel bearings, changing tires, routine maintenance. Housing and cooking facilities provided by employer at no cost to workers who are not reasonably able to return to their residence on the same day.

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    How To Apply:
    (Please use the Job Number in all contacts with EDD.)
    Report In Person: Nearest E D D Office
    Nearest E D D Office
    Any, CA 99999
    Contact: E D D Customer Service Representative
    Additional Instructions: Er provides assurances of wages, housing, and transp. DOL has given clearance to recruit outside the TX State. If insterested call the local EDD office for referral information. JO order will close on 11/19/10.
    Note: In order to obtain job listing contact information, you must present documents to show legal authorization to work in the United States.
    AGRICULTURAL JOB SEEKERS PLEASE NOTE:
    A job opening listed on an open agricultural job listing in the CalJOBS SM system does not constitute an actual offer of employment from the employer. Before you make plans to travel to a new location in response to a job listing, contact the employer directly or your nearest Job Service office to learn if there is an actual job for you.


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    Here is an interesting ad. Pay attention to the hours worked and the fact that NO OVERTIME IS PAID.

    http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/ ... QYK22XFSP5

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    Loading Map... Employee Type: Full-TimeIndustry: AgricultureManages Others: NoJob Type: OtherExperience: Not SpecifiedRelocation Covered: NoPost Date: 6/19/2010Contact Information Ref ID: SB94741
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    FARM WORKER Seasonal/Temporary position. Aug 1, 2010 - Oct. 31, 2010 40 positions. Work in corn packing shed, grading and packing corn into boxes. Approx 2 weeks of field work cutting and loading pumpkins and squash for remainder of season. Must be available to work entire season. All work located 15 miles south of Salem OR. Free housing with kitchen facilties for workers who live to far away to return home each day; housing is for workers only. Reimbursement of travel and subsistence expenses if applicant relocates and has completed 50% of season. Hours are 48hrs/wk, 9a-7:30p Mon-Sat with some days longer and some Sundays. Wage is $10.85/hr guaranteed. The job is piece work at .55/box and must be able to pack at least 20 bx/hr after 2nd day. Squash & pupkins are by the hour. Overtime not paid. The work is offered is guaranteed for 3/4 of the season. Work tools are furnished by the employer. Contact the newarest SWA office in area. Use job order #691509 for employer Bill Base Farms Inc.


    Source - The Sacramento Bee
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    I found a current ad for northern CA.

    FARM WORKER Seasonal/Temporary position.

    Aug 1, 2010 - Oct. 31, 2010
    40 positions.
    Work in corn packing shed, grading and packing corn into boxes. Approx 2 weeks of field work cutting and loading pumpkins and squash for remainder of season. Must be available to work entire season. All work located 15 miles south of Salem OR. Free housing with kitchen facilties for workers who live to far away to return home each day; housing is for workers only. Reimbursement of travel and subsistence expenses if applicant relocates and has completed 50% of season. Hours are 48hrs/wk, 9a-7:30p Mon-Sat with some days longer and some Sundays.

    Wage is $10.85/hr guaranteed. The job is piece work at .55/box and must be able to pack at least 20 bx/hr after 2nd day. Squash & pupkins are by the hour. Overtime not paid. The work is offered is guaranteed for 3/4 of the season. Work tools are furnished by the employer.

    Contact the newarest SWA office in area. Use job order #691509 for employer Bill Base Farms Inc.


    Source - The Sacramento Bee
    Requirements
    Please refer to the Job Description to view the requirements for this job

    http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/ ... id=CBJUJU_
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    I found a current ad for northern CA.

    FARM WORKER Seasonal/Temporary position.

    Aug 1, 2010 - Oct. 31, 2010
    40 positions.
    Work in corn packing shed, grading and packing corn into boxes. Approx 2 weeks of field work cutting and loading pumpkins and squash for remainder of season. Must be available to work entire season. All work located 15 miles south of Salem OR. Free housing with kitchen facilties for workers who live to far away to return home each day; housing is for workers only. Reimbursement of travel and subsistence expenses if applicant relocates and has completed 50% of season. Hours are 48hrs/wk, 9a-7:30p Mon-Sat with some days longer and some Sundays.

    Wage is $10.85/hr guaranteed. The job is piece work at .55/box and must be able to pack at least 20 bx/hr after 2nd day. Squash & pupkins are by the hour. Overtime not paid. The work is offered is guaranteed for 3/4 of the season. Work tools are furnished by the employer.

    Contact the newarest SWA office in area. Use job order #691509 for employer Bill Base Farms Inc.


    Source - The Sacramento Bee
    Requirements
    Please refer to the Job Description to view the requirements for this job

    http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/ ... id=CBJUJU_
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    LOL....we found it at the same time. Thats ok, this one deserves double mention because they require you to work more than eight hours a day but they DO NOT PAY OVERTIME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
    Wage is $10.85/hr guaranteed.
    First, 10.85 is not good pay. It is Sacramento and where it is not really expensive to live there, it is certainly not cheap. AND you are required to work over time but do not get paid for overtime.

    For the last 2.5 hours you are suppose to get paid 16.75. So it is not really 10.85 an hour after they rip you off for 12 bucks a day.

    Last, it is ILLEGAL not to pay overtime. So these people are advertising a job where the payment terms are blatantly illegal. Guess what? What do you think is going to happen when you try to take a break? Or when you need to go to the restroom. Anyone who is bold enough to run this ad, is doing many other illegal things in the workplace.

    They are so use to getting away with it that they dont even try to hide it.
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