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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes I think so, not maybe as famous as our steel, but yes, to my knowledge our American made concrete is great concrete and if he was getting money for a big beautiful concrete wall, he would be telling the media it would be an American made concrete wall. But he can't get the money for the concrete wall, so he plugging the steel wall.


    How can he get money for steel but not concrete? Let's stall this thing some more, let's argue concrete vs steel for the next decade.
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    The 2006 Fence Act approved steel, it's already law you can use steel, so it's just a matter of money, not authorization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The 2006 Fence Act approved steel, it's already law you can use steel, so it's just a matter of money, not authorization.



    Yes and that NEVER got built

    If the gov. can substitute (see picture below) for Steel ---why can't they now substitute concrete for steel---the gov can substitute when they want or even not build when they are suppose to, so the gov. does not follow its own rules and regulations, only when they want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoptheinvaders View Post
    Yes and that NEVER got built

    If the gov. can substitute (see picture below) for Steel ---why can't they now substitute concrete for steel---the gov can substitute when they want or even not build when they are suppose to, so the gov. does not follow its own rules and regulations, only when they want to.

    It got built but in different ways, some areas they thought needed vehicle barriers not pedestrian barriers. That's why you see this hodge podge of different types of steel barriers. They also left a lot of gaps usually because of access that property owners needed to come in and out of their properties. It didn't really stop anything, that's part of the reason the DemoQuacks say "walls don't work". And it also never got finished. Obama refused to build any of it. But that law is still law and Trump can use it to build the wall or "fence" Congress has already authorized which is a steel type barrier, but he still needs an appropriation for it or find some other way to fund it with military or unspent funds from other agencies or some combination of the three.
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    Secure Fence Act of 2006



    The US-Mexico border fence near El Paso, Texas.

    The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorizes the construction of 700 additional miles (1,100 km) of the double chain link and barbed wire fences with light and infrared camera poles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Secure Fence Act of 2006



    The US-Mexico border fence near El Paso, Texas.

    The Secure Fence Act of 2006 authorizes the construction of 700 additional miles (1,100 km) of the double chain link and barbed wire fences with light and infrared camera poles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
    You stopped a little short there, JD2, surprising you didn't know that the 2007 Amendment authorized "steel fence". It was right there in your article source, and in hundreds of photos posted on ALIPAC over the years.

    From your article source:

    2007 amendment

    The original 2006 act provided for "at least two layers of reinforced fencing" to be built. However, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) successfully argued to Congress "that different border terrains required different types of fencing, that a one-size-fits-all approach across the entire border didn't make sense."[6] An amendment introduced by Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas, was passed, amending the law to read: "nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location."[6]

    Erection of the fence

    By April 2009, DHS had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas.[7] Delays frustrated some, such as Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina, who in 2010 introduced legislation seeking to require completion of the 700-mile-long, double-layered fence. (DHS had since 2007 begun "to shift its focus to erecting a 'virtual fence' along the 2,000-mile border, using sensors, cameras and other high-tech equipment to prevent illegal crossings".) DeMint's legislation was defeated in a 52–45 Senate vote in 2010.[8]

    By May 2011, DHS reported completing 649 miles of fencing (99.5% of the 652 miles planned). The barrier was made up of 299 miles of vehicle barriers and 350 miles of pedestrian fence.[6] The fencing includes a steel fence (varying in height between 18 and 26 feet) that divides the border towns of Nogales, Arizona in the U.S. and Nogales, Sonora in Mexico.[9] A 2016 report by the Government Accountability Office confirmed that the government had completed the fence by 2015.[10] A 2017 GAO report noted: "In addition to the 654 miles of primary fencing, CBP has also deployed additional layers of pedestrian fencing behind the primary border fencing, including 37 miles of secondary fencing and 14 miles of tertiary fencing."[11]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You stopped a little short there, JD2, surprising you didn't know that the 2007 Amendment authorized "steel fence". It was right there in your article source, and in hundreds of photos posted on ALIPAC over the years.

    From your article source:



    Ah Ha right there it is......they are to use the most appropriate, and that does not deem concrete to be inappropriate. The fencing includes a steel fence. Includes being the key word here.

    "nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location."
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    Right, they can use concrete for the levee wall for example and are doing so. The key word is "fence" and "barrier". DemoQuacks consider a concrete barrier a "wall" and are opposed to that for "moral" reasons. Hey, they're you're "honest" friends, go call them, send them money, they can be bought. Be sure to explain to them that you believe "walls work." They don't think they "work". Good luck!! Don't any of the DemoQuacks have websites and forums you can explain your demands on? They're in charge now. Appropriation bills all originate in the DemoQuack controlled US House of Representatives.
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