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Obamacare Architect Admits: Obamacare Wouldn't Have Passed Except for the "Stupidity of the American People"

Posted on November 12, 2014 by Philip Hodges



A key Obamacare architect–who helped design Obama’s signature healthcare bill–admitted that a lack of transparency as well as the stupidity of the American people are what got the bill passed. If people knew and understood the true intent of Obamacare, they wouldn’t have supported it. No wonder Pelosi said that we had to pass it in order to find out what was in it.

The Blaze reported:
In a newly unearthed 2013 clip, Jonathan Gruber, the MIT health economist who helped craft parts of the Affordable Care Act, got fairly candid about the tactics used to get the Affordable Care Act passed during a panel at the Annual Health Economists’ Conferencelast year.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure [the Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes,” Gruber said in one 52-second clip. “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. OK, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed.”

Gruber then trumpeted the value of a “lack of transparency” — and called American voters stupid.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass.”

Better for the American people to be saddled with a law they don’t understand, Gruber claimed, than for them to understand the law and rally against it.

“Look, I wish … we could make it all transparent,” Gruber said, “but I’d rather have this law than not.”



The only thing that’s somewhat surprising is how honest he is. We all knew what a disaster of a train wreck Obamacare was going to be. We all knew it was shoved through without anyone having read it.
But voters don’t care what’s in bills before they decide they like them. All they knew was that it was being pushed by the President for whom they voted and by the media, which they watch religiously. And anyone who criticized the bill or the President or the media was racist.

The American voters got fleeced, and now it’s too late to fix anything, because the GOP is totally fine with Obamacare in principle. They just want their own name on it.

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Excuse me .......Don't even go there..... If Pelosi and her,"you have to pass it to read it idiocy" and our Political hacks who were bought and paid for, oh excuse me, "so called officials" who work for us and were elected by us, God forbid and still don't work for us!!!!! Hadn't ramrodded this fiasco through, with out the approval of the American Public, illegally ,and against, all our calls and etc...It wouldn't' have happened.... NOW explain to me again please; why your calling the American Public Stupid ???? This is way beyond me!!!! The words "scape goat'in" certainly comes to mind!!!!! Which of course is normal for you paid degenerates!!!! It is not the American Public that is stupid!!!!! But it is the criminality of those, "bought for and paid for," so called Politicians, that did this. Not US!!!! They are called stupid not us better yet bought and paid for crooked politician's!!!! Paid off!!!!! Can I say it again!!!! Paid Off!!!!!

Wake up America we have a new election coming up vote them all out they are crooks and they work for the highest bidder........Vote them out again and again until they work for us, LOL like that will happen....."Payola" used to be a word in the music industry, now it apply's to our politicians.... They have reached distinction in the highest form all of their own, aren't they impressive, how to destroy a Country in a few easy lessons....

Unconstitutional Obamacare Death Panels Wreak of the Nazi-Style Extermination Process

Suzanne Hamner 2 hours ago

We all remember the passage of the monstrosity called the "Affordable Care Act" or Obamacare. We remember how it was passed, who passed it, and the infamous words of Nancy "we have to pass it to know what's in it" Pelosi. Many spoke out about the so-called independent review board dubbed "death panels" that would be used to ration care for the nation's unconstitutional socialized medical insurance plans. Obamacare proponents labeled those speaking out about such a "panel" as being against medical care for the masses or seeking to deny healthcare to those less fortunate than others. Those same proponents denied there was such a thing dubbed a "death panel" further labeling those speaking out against "socialized" medical insurance plans as fabricating rumors in order to obstruct Obamacare and its namesake.

As it turns out, those warning about the "panel" may not have been far off the mark. As Breitbart reports, there is an independent body authorized by Congress to make "recommendations" on preventive services; and, since 2009, those recommendations have become "less and less generous." Known as the US Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF), the body has the authority to make recommendations regarding "screenings, counseling services or preventative medications." So, how does this affect the consumer who is enrolled and covered under Obamacare?

1. Mammogram screenings

The Mayo Clinic recommends annual mammography for women above age 40 with no limit on end age as does the American Cancer Society. In contrast, the Task Force recommends mammography for women every other year between the ages of 50 and 74. According to the Mayo Clinic's Dr. Sandhya Pruthi, "Findings from a large study in Sweden of women in their 40s who underwent screening mammograms showed a decrease in breast cancer deaths by 29 percent."

A decrease in deaths, along with cancer care, from breast cancer by 29 percent due to mammography screening is significant in the health care industry. As a breast cancer survivor, along with having a mother who is a breast cancer survivor, mammography screenings beginning at the recommended age of 40 made the difference in survival. While my episode occurred when I was in my 30s, mammography, along with ultrasound recommended by my physician based on physical findings, was covered outside the recommended age not only as a screening tool but as a diagnostic measure. The delay in mammography to age 50 and ending at age 75 would certainly miss many women, condemning them to possible death since early detection is the key to survival. In addition, early detection means less costly treatment as well as better emotional, mental and physical health.

1. Colonoscopy screenings

How many have heard from their physician that at age 50 it is time for colonoscopy screenings? The answer is every doctor you visit once you reach age 50 since that is the recommended age to begin screening. According to the American Cancer Society and the American College of Gastroenterology, there is no age limit for colonoscopies. The task force, however, recommends against routine colonoscopy screenings for those aged 76 to 85 years and recommends no screenings for individuals above age 85. "Medicare, coincidentally, happens not to cover CT colonography, but fully covers colonoscopies."

While guidelines on ending colonoscopy vary, the rule of thumb is generally no screening if life expectancy is less than 10 years or age 80 as the majority of individuals may not have 10 more years. However, according to Dr. Michael F. Picco, MD of the Mayo Clinic, "At 80, most folks; life expectancy is usually not 10 years so it's reasonable to stop in that case. In general, the guidelines should be followed relative to timing. When people shorten the interval against the guidelines, it's not a good use of resources."

There are many methods to screen for colorectal cancer, some less invasive than others. It is important to find the method that works best for the individual patient, along with a physician recommendation; but, one method is not superior over the other. The important fact to remember is "just because the options can be mind-boggling, that is no reason not to do screening."

1. Prostate Cancer screenings
   

Not surprisingly, the task force recommends againstscreening for prostate cancer. As it stands now, the definitive test for prostate cancer is the prostate-specific antigen (PSA). Many male patients and their physicians work together in determining the need for PSA screening and the Mayo Clinic suggests "offering PSA screening and DRE annually to men ages 50 to 75 with a life expectancy greater than 10 years." Now, with the Obamacare mandate, screening for prostate cancer is out the window.

As Breitbart points out, these recommendations by the USPSTF are just that – recommendations – it gives the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services the ability to add services to Medicare and to remove preventative services as recommended by the USPSTF.

So, while Obamacare was touted to bring health care to the "uninsured masses," it had the unfortunate effect of limiting services under Medicare through the "task force" recommendations that appear to counter current medical recommendations on preventive services. While many may say that the recommendations by the medical community regarding these preventative services are just another way to collect money from individuals and health insurance companies, it has been proven in many studies these preventive screenings actually save lives and health care costs in general. If Obamacare has the side effect of altering Medicare coverage, one can almost assume it will affect any insurance plan that will not have to be compliant with the federal regulations covering health care insurance plans – all health care insurance plans must be compliant with regulations regarding covered services.

Regardless of what the medical community recommends in screening, the USPSTF has "sliced" those recommendations for what purpose – rationing of health care services. No longer will the decision be made between you and your doctor. The decision for screening will be made by the USPSTF under the ACA law thereby affecting payment for services, meaning that if the screening falls outside the USPSTF recommendations, which conflict with medical science, then the screening may not be covered by the plan.

Where is the accounting for family history? Where is the accounting for a number of factors influential in the development of disease processes: gender, race, lifestyle?

It boils down to less individualized health care and a cookie-cutter health care model that will eventually affect every American directly or indirectly. While not wanting to be accused of "fear-mongering" or being "overly dramatic," this almost wreaks of a Nazi-style extermination process of less than desirable individuals without utilizing gas chambers – it will be death by government sanctioned with-holding of vital preventative screening measures.
Still, individuals have a difficult time understanding that "health care insurance does not guarantee health care nor does it guarantee payment for health care services."

The proponents for Obamacare sold this atrocity as "health care for all" or "access to health care for all" and in some cases, "free health care for those who cannot afford health care." As many of us have been pointing out, all of this has been the furthest thing from the truth. From the looks of it, the USPSTF, along with the tenets of Obamacare, operates on the assumption that there are some people that are "disposable," meaning some individuals will not receive certain health care services.

Editor's Note: So, now that the Republicans, who funded all of Obamacare, but claim they want to repeal it and have vowed to do so, have taken control of the House and Senate, there needs to be a full repeal without replacement of this unconstitutional legislation and the States need to reinforce it by nullification.

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Death Panels: Another Obamacare Architect Thinks We Should Die at Age 75

Melissa Melton 6 hours ago


Right now everyone is talking about how one of the Obamacare architects, Jonathan Gruber, said it was the huge political advantage of a lack of transparency in the bill being written combined with the stupidity of the American voter that got the monstrosity that is Obamacare passed.


As reported on The Daily Sheeple, Gruber said quote:

Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass

Yeah. That happened. Even left-leaning gatekeeper Snopes had to admit it. Why? It's on videotape.
Well, another of Obamacare's architects came out and said something perhaps even more disturbing back in September, in case you missed it.
Rahm Emanuel's brother Ezekiel, former White House Special Adviser on Obamacare and current Director of Clinical Bioethics at the National Institutes of Health and fellow at the Center for American Progress, wrote a whole op-ed in The Atlantic about why he hopes he dies at 75 because… well, that's the optimal age to die.
In fact, society would be better off "if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly" and we all die at age 75.
(The Atlantic describes itself as a partner site with the Council on Foreign Relations CFR.org site, just by the way.)


Wow. Look how happy he is about it, too. Yay, timely (or untimely) death!
Here's a little snippet of what Ezekiel Emanuel had to say in "Why I Hope to Die at 75: An argument that society and families — and you — will be better off if nature takes its course swiftly and promptly" about our optimal age to die:

But here is a simple truth that many of us seem to resist: living too long is also a loss. It renders many of us, if not disabled, then faltering and declining, a state that may not be worse than death but is nonetheless deprived. It robs us of our creativity and ability to contribute to work, society, the world. It transforms how people experience us, relate to us, and, most important, remember us. We are no longer remembered as vibrant and engaged but as feeble, ineffectual, even pathetic.

So, about your 90-year-old grandma or your 76-year-old mom?
Sorry. Sad to say, they have lived too long to serve any purpose in the eyes of Emanuel. They are "feeble, ineffectual, even pathetic." Their age has rendered them automatically unable to contribute anything valuable to society or the world simply by virtue of being alive. Mr. Obamacare bioethics over there says they should both just go die.
In fact, John Nolte at Breitbart referred to the passive-aggressive article, which Emanuel writes supposedly about himself but it really just sounds like he's making a blanket argument for everyone, as "what decent people would call the mission statement of a death cult" and went on to say it should have been called "Top 15 Reasons No One Over 75 Should Receive Healthcare."
In addition to the passage above, here are a few other loving statements from one of Obamacare's architects, which certainly is not in any way (<–that's sarcasm) a huge argument for prioritizing healthcare and which essentially includes a laundry list of reasons not to give old people medical coverage.
This is basically the essence of a death panel. And yes, he actually said these things:

• Half of people 80 and older with functional limitations. A third of people 85 and older with Alzheimer's. That still leaves many, many elderly people who have escaped physical and mental disability. If we are among the lucky ones, then why stop at 75? Why not live as long as possible?
• So American immortals may live longer than their parents, but they are likely to be more incapacitated. Does that sound very desirable? Not to me.
• The American immortal desperately wants to believe in the "compression of morbidity." … Compression of morbidity is a quintessentially American idea… It promises a kind of fountain of youth until the ever-receding time of death. It is this dream—or fantasy—that drives the American immortal and has fueled interest and investment in regenerative medicine and replacement organs. (Cuz we shouldn't get those if we're old?)
• Living parents also occupy the role of head of the family. They make it hard for grown children to become the patriarch or matriarch.
• How do we want to be remembered by our children and grandchildren? We wish our children to remember us in our prime. Active, vigorous, engaged, animated, astute, enthusiastic, funny, warm, loving. Not stooped and sluggish, forgetful and repetitive, constantly asking "What did she say?" We want to be remembered as independent, not experienced as burdens.
• Of course, our children won't admit it. They love us and fear the loss that will be created by our death. And a loss it will be. A huge loss. They don't want to confront our mortality, and they certainly don't want to wish for our death. But even if we manage not to become burdens to them, our shadowing them until their old age is also a loss.
• And leaving them—and our grandchildren—with memories framed not by our vivacity but by our frailty is the ultimate tragedy.

The guy also goes on and on about how horribly decrepit people get as they get older. To quote Breitbart again, "Emanuel even includes a monstrous but brightly colored graph that is meant to tell anyone over 75 that their 'last contribution' to society likely occurred more than a decade ago. Good God."

Did you know you don't even really contribute to society past age 65? Emanuel also points out that, "The average age at which Nobel Prize–winning physicists make their discovery is 48." So? And? How is that proof no one does anything of value later on in their life?
Emanuel went so far as to say, "Even if we aren't demented, our mental functioning deteriorates as we grow older… It is not just mental slowing. We literally lose our creativity."
Wow. Literally lose our creativity? All of it? Zero creativity after 75?
Guess that means all of these actors are too old, feeble, robbed of creativity and ability to contribute to work, society and the world to continue to live according to Ezekiel Emanuel:
Morgan Freeman (age 77)
Clint Eastwood (age 84)
Judi Dench (age 79)
Jack Nicholson (age 77)
Dustin Hoffman (age 77)
Gene Hackman (age 84)
Betty White (age 92)
Robert Duvall (age 83)
Michael Caine (age 81)
Sean Connery (age 84)
Mel Brooks (age 8
Sidney Poitier (age 87)
Gena Rowlands (age 84)
Max von Sydow (age 85)
Ed Asner (age 84)
Robert De Niro is 71, so according to Mr. Emanuel, he's got four good years left before he should go. Uh oh, Al Pacino turns 75 in April, so…
Yeah. I know how ridiculous that list I just typed is, but it is simply to illustrate a point about the disgusting, heartless bureaucrats running the show in this country.
Ezekiel Emanuel is only 57. We'll see if he takes his own advice in another 18 years.
Oh, and by the way, how old is David Rockefeller these days? Ninety nine and counting? You don't say…
In the meantime, people keep debating whether or not Obamacare includes death panels or will lead to death panels in the future. If this Obamacare architect's op-ed isn't a raging public service announcement for death panels (complete with a graph and everything!), I'm not sure what is.
They might not openly call it a death panel, but what do you think it means when bureaucrats like this guy argue that life-saving or even life-extending medical procedures like medical screenings or joint replacements are withheld from older folks simply because they are old and it isn't "cost-effective" according to the system?
(Whatever the hell that phrase "cost-effective" even means to a government that's $17 trillion in debt and just keeps finding a reason to go to even more wars…)
In the meantime, my dad died a few months ago. All of a sudden, just like that. He was only 63. Do you think I wouldn't give anything to have him here for another 12 years? More than 12? Do you think I ever once thought of my dad as a creativity-less "burden" who doesn't contribute to society as he got older? Do you think him being 75, 85 or even 95 would've suddenly made me love him so little I stop valuing him as a human being?
What a bunch of evil psychopaths we have running the show. I agree with John Nolte over at Breitbart: These Obamacare death cultists can all go straight to Hell.
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Pelosi denies knowing key Obamacare architect



Published on Nov 13, 2014




Pelosi knows no one,nothing, zip, nadda,Holy Pelosi...Watch her run, after she said "you have to pass it to read it"!!! TWIT got TWITTED!!!!

#Grubergate And Machiavelli: Do These Geniuses Make Me Look Fatuous?





Written by Donald Joy on November 14, 2014

A man named Rich Weinstein is the latest hero of the new media. About a year ago, his health insurance coverage was cancelled because of Obamacare’s broken promises. A replacement plan would have cost him twice as much. Upset, he turned into a citizen journalist on a mission. His diligent efforts over the past year have resulted in a suddenly huge political and media firestorm.

Weinstein had been an Obamacare supporter, because he had believed in the plan, as it had been so adamantly pitched by Obama and by Democrats — but having lost his health coverage, contrary to Obama’s repeated, solemn vows (“…you can keep your plan. Period.”), he felt utterly betrayed, and annoyed that the media wasn’t really doing its job regarding it all. He started looking for hard evidence as to exactly why the law indeed turned out to be the colossal sham which Republicans have argued it to be all along. He patiently watched and listened to countless videos of the masterminds behind Obamacare pontificating about their plans and designs. He eventually found the evidence he was seeking.

Weinstein’s relentless scouring of video archives unearthed a series of rather damning clips which have, after initial stages of being posted only in blog comments and Tweets, finally broken out like prairie fire all over the ‘web. They repeatedly show top Obamacare spaz, M.I.T. economist Jonathan Gruber, flapping his hands around while excitedly describing the shameless, calculated strategy of chicanery and precise fiscal fraud he and his socialist cronies used to foist the ironically-named “Affordable Care Act” on an electorate “too stupid” to otherwise appreciate the 2,000 pages of wool which was being pulled over their eyes. The videos also show Gruber unintentionally giving ample ammunition to those about to present the next viable challenge to Obamacare before the Supreme Court, regarding the illegality of the massive numbers of federal subsidies issued in violation of the law’s text.

When “Grubergate” first broke into my field of awareness earlier this week, I was instantly reminded of the writings of Renaissance-period Italian political philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli. Considered a founder of modern political science and ethics, Machiavelli is best known for his masterpiece titled “The Prince.” Its basic message was that in politics and government, those who are determined to succeed in acquiring and maintaining power, and in wielding it responsibly, really have no choice but to toss foolish, idealistic morality out the window, and get on with the grown-up business of deliberately deceiving the public, and acting ruthlessly wherever necessary in order to govern well. Machiavelli essentially said that wise rulers have to be supremely cynical, using everything from what we today call polite “spin” to outright brutality, in order to keep the masses mollified and under their control, lest opponents thwart one’s plans and/or rivals take one’s power away.

For Machiavelli, and obviously also for countless others in contemporary politics, business, and even romantic intrigues, naive scruples must take a back seat, even to whatever distasteful corruption may be deemed necessary to achieve one’s rationalized goals. “The end justifies the means,” or, “BAMN — by any means necessary!” (as in, the trademark rallying scream from the seething mobs of the current administration’s leftist community organizers, unions, and race agitators).

One thing is for certain in the debate over our federal government’s involvement in health care, as to whether Machiavellian philosophy applies: Jonathan Gruber obviously believes and acts as if it does, as do the entire Obama administration and Democrat party.

As if things couldn’t get any more cynical, now that he’s been virally exposed as one of the chief con-artists behind the ACA scam, the diabolical Dr. Gruber is doubling down on the double-talk: Despite now offering a meaningless half-apology for his manically-delivered comments on how he and his colleagues deliberately tricked people about Obamacare, he’s now accusing Republicans of having a “master strategy” for trying to “confuse people” about the law.

Did you get that? The guy who got caught (the videos were taken at closed-door conferences and never meant for mass public exposure) admitting that he intentionally hoodwinked, flim-flammed, and bamboozled voters in order to allow a cabal of left-wing radicals to take over 1/6 of our nation’s entire economy — our health care system — now lashes out and says that those who are shining the disinfecting sunlight of truth on the whole rotten stinking Obamacare mess are “trying to confuse” the public. My, oh my.

Then there’s that truly creepy psychopath, Nancy Pelosi. Staying rigidly in character, she blatantly lied right in front of the cameras as if it’s the most natural thing for her to do (it is): In a video from within just the last 48 hours, with the tsunami-scandal of Grubergate having broken wide open, Pelosi defiantly insisted that she doesn’t know who Jonathan Gruber is, and that he had nothing to do with writing the Obamacare bill — yet lo and behold, there she is in a different video from 2009, bringing up Gruber by name, singing her high praises of his work on the fiscal details of Obamacare, and directing the press to pay attention to him!

Sigh. This is all just a mere snapshot of the kind of treachery and unprincipled falsehood we’ve seen coming from our elected officials and their agents for as long as any of us can remember. Some are much worse than others, of course.

One wonders: Although generally viewed as a character shortcoming, is lying actually just necessary on the part of anyone who wants to prevail in politics, business, or relationships? Do voters, customers, and lovers really favor only the candidate, salesman, or partner who tells them merely what they want to hear, rather than the cold, hard truth? Perhaps it really is as Jack Nicholson’s character, the commander of the marine base at Guantanamo Bay in the Tom Cruise film A Few Good Menfinally bellowed from the witness stand. Maybe we just can’t handle the truth.

The fact is, everyone should know that deception sometimes is actually necessary, and morally the right thing to do: If ISIS members show up your door and ask you where your wife and children are, there’s plainly something severely wrong with you if you think telling the truth is the best policy at that time. Hypothetical discussions of all kinds of less glaringly simple “gray areas” can follow from such a stark and extreme example.

As for using deceptive strategies and tactics to gain power and advantages, we all know the old saying about how nice guys finish last. The usual way of interpreting that is to say that docile, non-cunning people are really just losers who get left in the dust by the domineering meanies with the sharper elbows. It occurs to me that a different way to interpret it is to say that guileless, non-conniving people are probably going to out-live (hence, “finish last” in a much different sense) those who are always in hyper-stressful, cutthroat competition for the top.

Speaking of folk wisdom and trickery/hustling, there’s also the old tale about nail soup, a.k.a. rusty nail soup or stone soupwhich illustrates a positive, creative, and benevolent aspect to some con-artist type behavior. Look it up if you can’t remember it, or if you’ve never heard it. Though involving deception, the con is creative because it results in something that didn’t exist at all before it was undertaken, and beneficial to all concerned because of the nourishment and enjoyment they would otherwise not have experienced.

Of course, most reading this are likely to concur when I say that Obamacare itself is horrible and wrong in various ways, and that its “architects” and agents who lied about it and rammed it down our throats are beyond merely sleazy. The reasons, well-known already, are far to numerous to detail in the space I’m allotted here. Gruber’s Obamacare-cheering defenders and apologists, however, take the Machiavellian attitude, saying that it’s because we can’t handle the truth that Gruber and Obama and all those other Ivy League geniuses have to lie to us stupid rubes, allegedly for our own good.
Believe it or not, I’d rather pay cash out of pocket for some nurse’s aide with a training certificate from a trade school to take my vitals while frankly telling me that I’m a dumbass disgusting fatbody who needs to wise up, work out more, and eat healthier, for my own good, than have prevaricating Ivy League princes with doctorate degrees presume to insist that they know best, and that all I need to do is get in line, stop opposing Obamacare, and sign up for a stolen subsidy.

Compared to the likes of Harvard Ph.D. Jonathan Gruber and the two Harvard-educated lawyers trying to run our lives like brilliant royalty from the White House, we on the political right may be folksy and relatively unsophisticated, but we’re not so fatuous as to fall for their lies.

About the author: Donald Joy


Following his service in the United State Air Force, Donald Joy earned a bachelor of science in business administration from SUNY while serving in the army national guard. As a special deputy U.S. marshal, Don was on the protection detail for Attorney General John Ashcroft following the attacks of 9/11. He lives in the D.C. suburbs of Northern Virginia with his wife and son.
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Now lets all show them how "stupid the American public is"....vote them all out!! Let those scam artist politician's learn a new word. We need to teach them the word "retribution"!!!

Will Supreme Court uphold ObamaCare’s Typo Fraud?

Rob Cunningham 16 hours ago




MIT Professor and chief ObamaCare architect, Jonathan Gruber, has been captured on video tape, twice, bragging that he purposely deceived "stupid Americans", the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and all Democrats, in order to enact Barack Obama's "legacy" healthcare legislation.

Professor Gruber has also been captured on tape, explaining how states that decide NOT to establish state-run healthcare exchanges would suffer financial harm by not being eligible to receive federal healthcare subsidies. This "smoking gun", 2012 Gruber videotape is damning evidence that exposes the current administration/media lie that only a "typo" in the current ObamaCare law is preventing the federal government from issuing federal subsidies to the 36 states that elected not to create state healthcare exchanges.

The plain language of the ObamaCare legislation, as explained passionately by Professor Gruber, expressly forbids federal subsidies being issued to federally managed healthcare exchanges. Period.

Soon, the Supreme Court must issue a ruling on the legality of federal subsidies being issued to the 36 federally created healthcare exchanges. Before issuing this critical legal ruling, surely the court will review the publicly available video tapes of the ObamaCare architect, strenuously arguing that the 36 federal healthcare exchanges being operated in various states are ineligible to receive federal healthcare subsidies, by design. The Supreme Court must choose to "double down" on Jonathan Gruber's admitted ObamaCare fraud or issue a ruling that effectively ends ObamaCare. There is no third option.
If the Supremes uphold ObamaCare by validating the Obama administration's "typo" excuse, their fraudulent ruling will surely lead to a citizen revolt. The mainstream network media, namely ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN, have refused to give even a single minute of coverage to the damning ObamaCare video evidence that has recently surfaced. Apparently, network executives and cable media dinosaurs have adopted the Hillary Clinton mantra of, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Obviously, Barack Obama, the mainstream media, 100% of the Democrat Party that voted to enact ObamaCare, and far too many republicans believe Americans are too stupid to understand ObamaCare.

We the people will have the last laugh.

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LYING ABOUT LYING: Nancy Pelosi Cited Gruber in 2009, Now Says She's Never Heard of Him | Doug Giles | #ClashDaily
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LYING ABOUT LYING: Nancy Pelosi Cited Gruber in 2009, Now Says She’s Never Heard of Him

Posted on November 13, 2014

Nancy Pelosi adds insult to injury as she denies even knowing who Jonathan Gruber is. Does she really think Americans are this stupid to believe her? Oh, wait…according to Gruber, yes, she does.

Here is a flashback of her citing Gruber in the push for Obamacare back in 2009:



Here are her most recent comments:

LIBERAL CHICK: ‘Conservatives Want Americans to Die, Gruber Wants to Heal Them’

Posted on November 14, 2014



Liberal Chick thinks that she knows the logic behind Jonathan Gruber and Conservatives in the Healthcare debate: Gruber wants to heal them while Conservatives want them to be stupid and die.

“Conservatives want Americans to be stupid, Jonathan Gruber made a book so that they could be smarter and learn about healthcare…so conservatives hate Americans…Duh!”

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Well maybe I was a bit toooooooo Hastyyyyy on my Stupid American complaint!!!!!

BREAKING: Here’s Jonathan Gruber’s Health Care Comic Book for Stupid Americans


Posted on November 14, 2014

By Tim Young
Clash Daily Guest Contributor
By now we all know who Jonathan Gruber is… and if you don’t, turn on the news. The quotes this ‘architect’ of Obamacare gave us on his work were golden:
“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure [the Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes,” and
“If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies, ok? … lack of transparency is a huge political advantage and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically, that was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass.”
After those quotes, it makes perfect sense that Gruber’s greatest treatise for the stupid American voters is a comic book… and when I heard this, I had to find a copy and read it for myself so that you, the stupid American voter, wouldn’t have to.
The title of this comic book shockingly isn’t ‘The Adventures of Dr. Deception and the Bullshit Brigade,” instead, Gruber went with the more subtle “Health Care Reform: What It Is, Why It’s Necessary, How It Works.” Now I know that that title sounds boring, but when you get into the pile of lies inside, it gets extremely exciting.
When we meet our hero Jonathan Gruber not to be confused with Hans Gruber, the internationally feared German terrorist from Die Hard, he’s rolled out the big guns of the Affordable Care Act… telling us that we’re all going to have health insurance and it’s actually going to lower the deficit. Of course he’s at a theater… the left has the entertainment industry on lock.


We’re introduced to 4 characters, each of which has a different health care and employment condition. **RACE BAITING SPOILER ALERT** The white guy with the tie has the best condition and the Hispanic woman has the worst, followed closely by the black guy.


But don’t feel good about that white guy just yet… he works for an EVIL business in America, which means he could become uninsured because of corporate greed at any moment!


And we learn that although our healthcare is great, it is in the darkness… and we can only be saved by Gruber aka Dr. Deception who brings us the mighty light and smiling sun of socialism.


He then takes us to a land where healthcare is done all wrong. The EVIL STATE OF TEXAS!


Then we learn that Doctors… not all of them, but just enough of them are also EVIL because they get paid EVIL MONEY to treat patients… and the more they try to treat them with, the more EVIL MONEY THE EVIL DOCTORS MAKE!!!!


The commoners, the stupid American voters… they argued over health care reform, because those stupid Americans had never been blessed with the opportunity to live in a magical land of happiness and wealth called Massachusetts.


And you too could live in a land of happiness and cupcakes and heart candy boxes full of decisions made for you, but if you don’t… we’re gonna tax you!


And look at all these non-descript people who chose to live in candy land with Dr. Deception, they love it and want it for the entire country!


If you’re already insured, then don’t worry, Obamacare will make you extra secure in this ring of insurance… I mean, don’t mind the opening where lots of people can fall out, but it’s extra secure!


This law that’s going to take away your rights to not insure yourself is the spinach, so some people are gonna have to eat healthy so that other people can eat cake…


And if you don’t want insurance, then you’re like this guy who’s scared on top of this ambulance who the Gestapo have stopped to fine. Also someone please call the Supreme Court and tell them that the architect of Obamacare calls the penalty a TAX!


Everybody sing along with this part: If you like your insurance plan… you can keep it!




Dr. Deception shall stop EVIL BIG BUSINESS from its evil freeloading ways! Look at that evil businessman who looks like the principal from Beavis and Butthead.


Here’s where it gets good. ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE OBAMACARE ARE MONSTERS! But we are protected from their MONSTROUS CONCERNS, by that committee that Dr. Deception tricked, the CBO!
In case you forgot the quote: “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure [the Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes…If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies, ok?”
Also keep in mind that he just called it taxes a few images ago..




These ugly monsters have legitimate concerns but Dr. Deception shuts them down with the comments he received from the CBO that he tricked!




And most importantly… Dr. Deception says that THIS IS NOT SOCIALISM!


Like he said, it’s not socialism, but 7 pages later in the chapter called ‘Picking Up The Check,’ the check is in fact picked up by placing a tax on the rich. So, like he said, “THIS IS NOT SOCIALISM!” Listen to Dr. Deception, he DOESN’T LIE TO YOU STUPID AMERICANS!
Also Miami Vice called, they want their rich 1% stereotype with the sweater tied around his neck back.


Look at these fools as they protest to trust the greedy doctors! You CANNOT TRUST THEM!


While they toil in the streets, the bullshit brigade cooks up Obamacare solutions like meth!


All while EVIL BUSINESSES hide from Uncle Sam with their EVIL bags of money!


EVIL DOCTORS not to be confused with our hero Dr. Deception, give out health care like GREEDY BUTCHERS… telling you that you can eat all the meat you want…


We need the mandate to get to the golden hill! All you need to do is FOLLOW ME!


Dr. Deception says that your insurance costs will go down angry corporate white man that cares not about others who aren’t white!



And no one shall stop Obamacare, not even RUSH LIMBAUGH with his death panel lies and treachery!


Dr. Deception then convinces the stupid Americans to join his Quest where he shall take them to a land of candy and cupcakes just like Massachusetts!


And on the final page, instead of candy and cupcakes, he leads them into the desert that is Obamacare: A future of uncertainty and despair. That’s the left’s kind of hero! Just keep following him into the abyss stupid Americans… Just. Keep. Following.


In case you were wondering if the Secretary of State John Kerry knew of or remembered Jonathan Gruber, aka Dr. Deception… he thinks he’s the tops!


See stupid people? It’s not socialism even though the rich are having their wealth redistributed to the poor… these are all great ideas and everyone is going to be happy and living in Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory if we just believe in Obamacare.
Author’s Note: I want my $6.04 back from purchasing this off a clearance rack.

Disclaimer: This is a satirical opinion piece based on the book, Health Care Reform: What It Is, Why It’s Necessary, How It Works by Jonathan Gruber which was published by Hill and Wang (December 20, 2011) and can be found for purchase and your own analysis on Amazon.com and Barnes & Nobles.com and at other booksellers.

Conservative Comedian Tim Young has been a guest on Fox News Channel’s ‘Red Eye,’ Huffington Post Live, RT’s The Alyona Show and dozens of syndicated radio shows.
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Your “Children Will Be Fined” If You Fail To Sign Up For Obamacare: People Are Going To Be In for A Shock


Mac Slavo 2 hours ago

Free and affordable health care just gets better and better.


In 2015 the government will be activating some new “incentives” embedded in the Affordable Care Act in an effort to get more people to sign up.
But, as is often the case when the government says one thing, they mean exactly the opposite. In this case, when they say incentive what they really mean is that you are going to be penalized if you fail to acquire government mandated health insurance. But not just you. Your children, who apparently no longer belong to you anyway based on a recent court ruling, will be fined for your failure to get them on the insurance rolls:

Penalties for failing to secure a health-insurance plan will rise steeply next year, which could take a big bite out of some families’ pocketbooks.
“The penalty is meant to incentivize people to get coverage,” said senior analyst Laura Adams of InsuranceQuotes.com. “This year, I think a lot of people are going to be in for a shock.”

In 2014, Obamacare’s first year, individuals are facing a penalty of $95 per person, or 1 percent of their income, depending on which is higher. If an American failed to get coverage this year, that penalty will be taken out of their tax refund in early 2015, Adams noted.

While that might be painful to some uninsured Americans who are counting on their tax refunds in early 2015, the penalty for going uninsured next year is even harsher. The financial penalty for skipping out on health coverage will more than triple to $325 per person in 2015, or 2 percent of income, depending on whichever is higher.

Children will be fined at half the adult rate, or $162.50 for those under 18 years old.

Source: CBS News

So, that’s your incentive. Either sign up for Obamacare at a rate of roughly $750 a month or more for a middle-class family of four, or pay a $325 penalty or two percent of your income, whichever is higher. Plus, if you have kids, they’ve been incentivized too!

Moreover, if you fail to sign up for Obamacare and subsequently refuse to pay your penalty your house will be raided by armed IRS agents, seized by the government, and you’ll be imprisoned for tax evation.

Welcome to the new America, where the government now has the power to compel you to purchase products from private companies under the threat of imprisonment or death. Yes, death. Because if you run from those armed IRS agents they’re going to use their brand new militarized AR-15′s to ensure your compliance.

At this point the only chance Americans have for the complete destruction of the Affordable Care Act is for a Supreme Court ruling expected in the Spring of 2015. If the court rules against Obamacare over its illegal federal subsidies then the law could fall apart almost instantly.

These days, even democrats who supported the legislation before anyone had a chance to actually review it are up in arms. It seems many have finally realized that free health care isn’t actually, well, free.

Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.

Yet, like many other Bay Area residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened their bills: Their policies were being replaced with pricier plans that conform to all the requirements of the new health care law.
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“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”

Source: Democrat Voters Confused via Mercury News

Suckers, the whole lot of them. Unfortunately, they supported legislative action that will eventually unravel the entire economic fabric of the United States of America unless it is repealed or overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court.

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