Thread: Glenn Beck Deems Ron Paul “Domestic Threatâ€

Originally Posted by sippy

Now, I'm not saying he will win, but if they are SOOO convinced that he won't win, then why are they going to so much effort to discredit and bash Paul?

Good question.

Personally, I don't see much point in keehauling someone whose best showing thus far has been a fifth-place finish in the Iowa Straw Poll, although I can understand taking him to task for idiotic things like this Guy Fawkes fund-raiser, or accepting checks from that moral reprobate Don Black.

Shapka said:

Okay, after looking over his actual comments I've gotta say that Beck was actually pretty measured-I just assumed he had said something stupid, which was a mistake on my part.

You call this measured!!! From the Lou Rockwell site:

As the Ron Paul movement grew, it was inevitable that the neocons would turn from demeaning to smearing. One clownish and sinister example was Glenn Beck’s CNN show last night.

[b]Beck actually said that the US military may have to be used against the growing threat of domestic terrorism: Ron Paul donors. Why? Because there is a “rising tide of disenfranchisementâ€

That's a hyperventilating armchair radical on LewRockwell DESCRIBING what Glen Beck said.

You'll notice that it's not enclosed in quotation marks-it's not even a paraphrase, to be perfectly blunt.

This would be akin to me taking an essay written by James Bovard about the federal government's excesses, describing the basic underlying concept, then claiming that Bovard thinks BATF agents are trained to come into your house and eat your children-without providing any evidence attesting to that wild accusation.

Glen Beck has a national cable-news program, which thousands of people watch on a weekly basis. It's not as if he engaged in a private conversation with this author, the contents of which only they are privy too. People heard what he and David Horowitz said on that program.

You don't need quotation marks to discredit something taken from the Lou Rockwell site, you can watch it being said straight from the horses mouth. Go here to watch

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/no ... smears.htm or read the whole article.




Complaints Flood CNN After Beck Smears Ron Paul Supporters As Terrorists

Neo-Con and ex-Marxist demonize founding fathers, Ron Paul supporters as terrorists in outrageous attack on free speech, urge use of U.S. military against domestic enemies, anti-war left, libertarians, talking points have roots in September 2006 White House strategy document, demands for retraction flood CNN, sponsors boycotted
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, November 16, 2007


Complaints and demands for a retraction and an apology are flooding CNN today after Neo-Con host Glenn Beck and ex-Marxist David Horowitz smeared Ron Paul supporters, libertarians and the anti-war left as terrorist sympathizers and inferred that the U.S. military should be used to silence them, parroting a talking point that traces back to a September 2006 White House directive.

This is part of an ongoing propaganda assault which has also been mimicked by other anti-American Neo-Con talking heads like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh.

Beck opened up his show segment by inferring that the U.S. military should be used to silence domestic dissent against the war, claiming that those he would later identify as Ron Paul supporters, libertarians and the anti-war left and link with terrorists, were a "physical threat."

"When you enlist in the U.S. military, you have take an oath that says you're gonna support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies - foreign and domestic - we talk a lot on this program about the foreign threats - maybe we should spend some time tonight on the domestic one....the physical threat may be developing domestically as well," said Beck.

Beck then goes on to make the absurd insinuation that Ron Paul supporters are a terrorist threat because they are causing disenfranchisement with the government. His evidence? The November 5th donation drive coincided with a 400-year-old piece of British history and Guy Fawkes plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament.

Beck then introduces his guests, the great grandson of Winston Churchill, and admitted former Marxist and now Neo-Con ideologue David Horowitz.

Watch the video. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/no ... smears.htm

We are forced to digest the bizarre and abhorrent spectacle of a British elitist, "former" Marxist Horowitz and anti-American Neo-Con Glenn Beck infer that 1776, the founding fathers and the very birth of freedom in America is somehow evil and affiliated with terrorism and extremism.

This brought back memories of a July 2001 FEMA training meeting in Missouri where a FEMA representative was caught on video instructing local police that the American people were the enemy and that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the founding fathers were a terrorist organization.

Watch the video below.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/no ... smears.htm

Ex-Marxist Horowitz and Beck then go on to link the anti-war left, Ron Paul supporters on the right and libertarians like Lew Rockwell, with "Islamofascists" and terrorists.

Horowitz states, "I think it's very significant he (Ron Paul) chose Guy Fawkes as an image."

This in itself is a complete lie - the Ron Paul campaign did not create the November 5th donation drive, it was created by one individual and the November 5th motif was merely a gimmick to make people remember to donate. To suggest it was a thinly veiled expression of sympathy with a 17th century terrorist is manifestly ridiculous.

Horowitz then claims, "There are plenty, unfortunately, libertarian websites which are indistinguishable from the anti-American left these days - LewRockwell.com and others like that - they are totally in bed with the Islamofascists and have turned against this country."

This is a completely fallacious, slanderous and damaging lie, but Horowitz and Beck are still laboring under the illusion that the American people buy their bellicose smear attacks which are completely devoid of any substance and delivered only with the aid of discredited sound bites and rhetorical clichés.

During the course of the segment, Beck also repeated the contention that another Timothy McVeigh would emerge from one of the groups he demonized.

Beck's diatribe is just the latest in a series of smear attempts to equate 9/11 truthers, Ron Paul supporters and other activists with violence and terrorism, or otherwise discredit them. Bill O'Reilly has been doing it for weeks.

Watch the video

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/no ... smears.htm

What is the origin of the talking points that are now being disseminated by the likes of Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and others?

Back in September 2006, we reported on a White House strategy document for "winning the war on terror," in which conspiracy theorists were targeted as a wellspring of terrorism. The document threatens to "address" and "diminish" the problems they are causing the government in fulfilling their agenda.

The document states that terrorism springs from "subcultures of conspiracy and misinformation," and that "terrorists recruit more effectively from populations whose information about the world is contaminated by falsehoods and corrupted by conspiracy theories. The distortions keep alive grievances and filter out facts that would challenge popular prejudices and self-serving propaganda."

Bush referred to the strategy paper as "an unclassified version of the strategy we've been pursuing since September the 11th, 2001," that takes into account, "the changing nature of this enemy."

The Neo-Con talking heads are actually parroting White House propaganda handed down to them by the Bush administration.

You can even trace the legacy right back to Bush's November 10, 2001 speech to the U.N., in which he said that "outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th" should not be tolerated.

In the current context, this unified assault also dovetails with the advance of H.R. 1955, entitled the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007", which is vaguely worded and could easily be used to label activist groups as terrorist recruiters.

As Kurt Nimmo writes, "The only serious threat to the neocons and their neolib partners in crime emanates from the patriot and 9/11 truth movements—and that is why, as increasing numbers of patriotic and politically diverse Americans rally around the Ron Paul presidential campaign, we are witnessing increasingly virulent and desperate attacks against Paul, who is now absurdly conflated with “Islamo-fascistâ€

Again, it's an hysterical attack on someone critical of Ron Paul.

I hate to tell you this, but that's not a recent innovation of Alex Jones.



Glen Beck said we have a domestic threat that's as dangerous as the foreign threat in the War on Terror, which is true. Then, this loon claims that means he wants the federal government to target the Paul campaign, which was not even vaguely alluded to in Beck's commentary.

Let the people watch and come to their own conclusions.

Fine by me.

Does anyone seriously understand just how DANGEROUS this is??

This is much more than just an attack on Ron Paul and his supporters. This is a declaration of war against ALL AMERICANs who disagree or speak out against the government. I'd be just as concerned and just as outspoken if Beck came out and said the same thing about any of the other candidates and their supporters. Some believe these recent on air attacks is a testing strategy to see how many Americans will buy into these lies.

Please read the following:

A sustained media propaganda campaign in support of the move to swing the apparatus of tyranny away from phantom Muslim terrorists and towards the American people is in full operation and may pave the way for further attacks on US soil to be blamed on dissenting Americans who speak out against the war and the rise of the domestic police state.

Over the past decade we have witnessed an extreme acceleration of the physical implementation of a framework and infrastructure ready to receive those who will not go along with a coordinated destruction of traditional American values and freedom. With 9/11 came the first opportunity of the 21st century to radically alter the mentality of America and introduce a new order of society.

In the event of another attack on US soil, an army of Neo-Cons secretly sharing the same fetish, would revel in exploiting a hollow opportunity to say "we told you so," even at the expense of thousands of dead dads, moms, sons, daughters and babies.

"But these are just the mindless frothings of talking heads looking for ratings" some might say. When you take them in context with the ongoing actions of the government, however, a clearer more deadly picture emerges.


The propaganda coincides with a House Homeland Security Subcommittee hearing on "Terrorism and the Internet" held last week, broadcast on C-Span, which featured a panel of "experts", including representatives formerly of the RAND Corporation and the Simon Wiesenthal Center who presented 9/11 truth websites sites alongside sites that celebrate the attacks and offer training in terrorist tactics.

In the current context, this unified assault also dovetails with the advance of H.R. 1955, entitled the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007", which is vaguely worded and could easily be used to label activist groups as terrorist recruiters.

Past legislation written up and in many cases implemented by the Bush administration has completely cleared the path for the targeting of American citizens as "enemy combatants" and systematically destroyed the Bill Of Rights. Here is a brief re-cap on some of that legislation:

* Executive Order, 'Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq'

Back in July this year this vaguely worded EO was signed and acts as an amendment to the National Emergencies Act. It states that any American citizen who "threatens the peace and stability of Iraq and undermines efforts to promote reconstruction and reform" there may have all their property and interests seized by the Treasury department without warning. Many within the anti-war movement have viewed this as a move to target protesters. it certainly is the case that anti-war protesters have been heavily surveilled by the FBI, the NSA and the Pentagon at meetings and rallies as many mainstream sources have reported this year.


The corporate media is now preparing the psyche of the American public for a second major shift. This time the effort will be to direct the understanding of the manufactured and fraudulent "war on terror", away from "Islamofascists" and "Al Qaeda" and towards dissenting American citizens.

Establishment "news" hacks such as Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Hannity and Limbaugh are raising the same talking point ad infinitum, dubbing the global truth movement, along with the anti-war movement, as "anarchists" and violent individuals who are aiding terrorists....

Article continues here:

http://infowars.net/articles/november20 ... r_hell.htm

This is scary and if Glen Beck said such a thing, he should apologize profusely. If he didn't, he should explain.

Now I say that if he was talking about Ron Paul - or if he was saying that about people who disagree with this war.

It sounds like 'someone' has gotten to Glen Beck -

Here's the transcript from that program, not expurgated or bowdlerised, full-stop:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... gb.01.html

You know, I was thinking this morning, when you enlist in the military, you have to take an oath that says you`re going to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. On this program we talk a lot about the foreign threats. Maybe tonight we should spend some time on the growing domestic one.

It`s easy to sit back and -- and watch television and complain that our politicians aren`t listening to us, that they`re lying to us about the border, about out-of-control spending, or their apparent relentless quest to hand our country over to special interests. It feels, at least to me, like our leaders reflect an America that most of us don`t even recognize.

Well, here`s "The Point" tonight. While our foreign enemies are the obvious ones, the physical threat may be developing domestically, as well. And here`s how I got there.

As I told you last week, Ron Paul raised over $4 million in one day. That`s huge news. His supporters raised the cash on November the 5th to commemorate Guy Fawkes. This guy was a British terrorist who tried to overthrow the government by blowing up Parliament and killing everybody in it. Paul`s supporters called the donations, and I`m quoting, a "money bomb."
Fawkes was caught the very last minute, some say with his hand on a torch about to light the gunpowder under Parliament.

Now, the vast majority of Paul`s supporters take this little metaphor the way it`s intended, as a rallying cry to create a dramatic political shift. It`s really not the way I would go, you know, tying my movement in with a historical terrorist attack, especially in post-9/11 America. But hey, you know, I`m a libertarian at heart. I get it. You raise money however you want, as long as you`re not blowing other people up.

But America, here`s what you need to know tonight. Ron Paul`s supporters are tapping into something that`s very real. It`s something that I`ve talked about on this program for a very long time: the rising tide of disenfranchisement in this country. And it`s coming from all sides of the political spectrum.

If that feeling of disenfranchisement leads to political discussion, then our system works perfectly. But if fringe elements take that disenfranchisement and turn it into violence, we endanger the freedoms we`re supposedly all fighting for.