Thread: Honestly looking for feed back good or bad please...

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist

redpony...good 2 cents and I agree. But instead of posting a huge docket of info I would only ask that you take a moment to read a few posts from this string. The last10 or so pages have become really interesting.

http://www.alipac.us//ftopict-137238.html

Ten pages? If you want to make a point, then make it. I dont feel like reading ten pages of posts to try to guess what your point might be. If you have something to say, spit it out.

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist

Originally Posted by redpony353

Obama was born in Hawaii. I believe the reason they do not want to expose his original birth certificate is because his mom was not married when he was born and the birth certificate might reflect that. The certificate of live birth states that he was born in Hawaii, not some place else. He was born in Hawaii.

Thanks for your comment redpony. I want to open dialog only...not looking to change any ones opinion or argue. But I am interested in how important people feel about the wording of and the Constitutional requirements for POTUS. Do you feel that issue is important??

It is VERY VERY important. The President MUST be a natural born citizen. In fact, I would go so far as to say that ANY public official...even at the state and city levels...SHOULD ALL BE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. It is dangerous to let anyone into a position where they can affect legislative change when they are not natural born.

As for Obama, I think he was born in Hawaii, BUT....there is something on his original birth certificate that he does not want us to know. There is only so much info on a certificate, so that is why I think it is because his mom was not married at the time.

Obama wouldnt care if his mother was married or not at the time of his birth. The "live" birth certificate shown is not a real copy. When my daughter was getting her passport her "live bc" was turned down. She had to get a copy of the real thing from my safe deposit box. Obama has spent over 1 million dollars to seal his birth, elementary and high school, and college records from public view. Obama cant even prove that he has a real law degree. IMO Pelosi, Feinstein and other democrats knew that Obama wasnt eligible. I think Hillary found out a few months before the election but thought she would still win. Remember their "secret" meeting? http://www.buzzle.com/articles/199971.html

I think it would take some hellacious foresight by his mother to register for a birth in Hawaii if he was indeed born abroad.

I do however, think that he is hiding something. Most likely school funding as a foreign student.

Originally Posted by kniggit

I think it would take some hellacious foresight by his mother to register for a birth in Hawaii if he was indeed born abroad.

I do however, think that he is hiding something. Most likely school funding as a foreign student.

Yes....it could be that somewhere along the line he CLAIMED to be a foreigner to take advantage of some benefit that are only available to foreigners and not to citizens....even though citizens pay for it. Someone in another chat room mentioned something else to.....did birth certificates use to name the parents' religion? Did it name the baby's religion? I think in some states it did. If this were the case and his bc says he is Muslim....well that would just not go over too well with Americans now would it?

By word study we see why a COLB is not legal validation. It is a statement made and is "assumed" to contain truth and by that statement without proof the COLB is issued.

Certificate is a legal binding document that holds all information to a birth event and is witnessed as true by doctors and the hospital.


Copies of both can be viewed here:
http://www.alipac.us//ftopict-202435.html

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Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by hardlineconstitutionalist

Originally Posted by redpony353

Obama was born in Hawaii. I believe the reason they do not want to expose his original birth certificate is because his mom was not married when he was born and the birth certificate might reflect that. The certificate of live birth states that he was born in Hawaii, not some place else. He was born in Hawaii.

Thanks for your comment redpony. I want to open dialog only...not looking to change any ones opinion or argue. But I am interested in how important people feel about the wording of and the Constitutional requirements for POTUS. Do you feel that issue is important??

It is VERY VERY important. The President MUST be a natural born citizen. In fact, I would go so far as to say that ANY public official...even at the state and city levels...SHOULD ALL BE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. It is dangerous to let anyone into a position where they can affect legislative change when they are not natural born.

As for Obama, I think he was born in Hawaii, BUT....there is something on his original birth certificate that he does not want us to know. There is only so much info on a certificate, so that is why I think it is because his mom was not married at the time.

Obama wouldnt care if his mother was married or not at the time of his birth. The "live" birth certificate shown is not a real copy. When my daughter was getting her passport her "live bc" was turned down. She had to get a copy of the real thing from my safe deposit box. Obama has spent over 1 million dollars to seal his birth, elementary and high school, and college records from public view. Obama cant even prove that he has a real law degree. IMO Pelosi, Feinstein and other democrats knew that Obama wasnt eligible. I think Hillary found out a few months before the election but thought she would still win. Remember their "secret" meeting? http://www.buzzle.com/articles/199971.html

I really don't know what a COLB is good for because it is can't be used as a legal proof of birth? Strange. I guess I should try and find that out.

BTTT

cool. thanks...