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Thread: Madison’s view on today’s Senate Impeachment Trial ___ “tyranny”.

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    Madison’s view on today’s Senate Impeachment Trial ___ “tyranny”.

    In regard to the legitimacy of today’s Senate impeachment trial and Senator Leahy acting as judge, jury and prosecutor, let us never forget that Madison describes such circumstances as follows:

    "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, selfappointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny ".. . . Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

    Perhaps that is why our wise founding fathers commanded in our Constitution “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside” ___and not a communist/socialist inspired Senator who derides an America First Policy and now presides over an individual who advocates and America First Policy.


    So, all those Democrats and Republican Senators, who voted in favor of this trial, have not only violated their oath of office, but are now willing accomplices in an act of tyranny.

    JWK

    As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of darkness.___Supreme Court Justice William Douglas
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    The Senate moved forward trying an impeachment with a defective charging document

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    Just to be crystal clear, the House’s ARTICLES OF IMPEACHEMENT delivered on Jan. 26th to the Senate, and name “Donald John Trump, President of the United States” as defendant, are facially defective since the President’s term expired on Jan. 20th at noon.

    The following is stated in the Articles:


    Resolved, "That Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate"


    The irrefutable fact is, Trump isn’t the President, but the Articles are charging the “President”. So why did the Senate move forward with a defective charging document? Do these members of the Senate not take the rule of law and their oath of office seriously?

    JWK

    Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, in addition to Facebook, Twitter ETC., and countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.
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    It is now crystal clear in my mind that the 56 Senators who voted to move forward with an impeachment trial for Trump, were never serious about punishing him for “high crimes and misdemeanors” as alleged in the House’s ARTICLES OF IMPEACHEMENT.


    For those unaware, the only punishment provided for a successful impeachment trial is as follows:


    “Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States”


    The fact remains, any real punishment for an office holder who may have committed the act of inciting an insurrection, is to be prosecuted by our judicial system and then punished as prescribed under Title 18. This is where the real punishment is to be administered!


    18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection.


    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.



    Of course, if real punishment is to be had as found under Title 18 and implemented through our judicial system, the antics now being pulled by the Democrat Party Senate Leadership [edited tapes, lies, distortions, innuendos and other tricks to inflame passion rather than establish facts], is unavailable to these communist/socialist loving revolutionaries.



    As to the applicable definitions to prosecute for an incitement to riot we turn to 18 U.S. Code § 2102. Definitions

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    As used in this chapter, the term “riot” means a public disturbance involving (1) an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons, which act or acts shall constitute a clear and present danger of, or shall result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual or (2) a threat or threats of the commission of an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons having, individually or collectively, the ability of immediate execution of such threat or threats, where the performance of the threatened act or acts of violence would constitute a clear and present danger of, or would result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual.

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    As used in this chapter, the term “to incite a riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.


    So, as it turns out, the obvious purpose of the 56 Senators who moved forward with an impeachment trial is to inflame the passions and emotions of the American People, and divide them, using edited tapes, lies, distortions, innuendos and other tricks, which are not available under a Title 18 prosecution.


    If anyone ought to be prosecuted, it should be the 56 communist/socialist loving revolutionary Senators who have used their office of public trust to divide the American people into two irreconcilable forces.

    JWK


    First the President is cut off from twitter, then Sen. Hawley’s book is cancelled, then the WalkAway Facebook page is taken down, Parler is removed, and even Mike Lindell, our pillow guy, is banned from Twitter by its socialist revolutionary control freaks. And now ‘Walkaway’ founder Brandon Straka is arrested by Biden’s FBI. Is it not self-evident a dangerous and un-American pattern is developing to cancel patriotic conservative speech?
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    This describes Nancy Pelosi, the Democrat Party, the Rino's and Swamp:




    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    This describes Nancy Pelosi, the Democrat Party, the Rino's and Swamp:




    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    I think the Democrat Party Leadership has finally shot themselves in the foot. They just voted to have witnesses testify at the "impeachment" trial. This ought to drag this crap out for weeks, while the real businesses of government is put on the back burner.

    JWK


    You bet Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff have won. Every parasitic rat found their way to the voting booth to vote to get their piece of “free government cheese”, just as they did in Venezuela and Cuba, and now suffer the poisonous consequences of their actions.
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    It is a "distraction" to take our eye off the ball from the real evil crap they are pushing through and not reporting on!

    Just look at the border and now bringing these darn refugees here during a pandemic! Our states and local budgets are shot. We have no housing, no budget for these people. They can relocate within their own countries or ship them to the coastal resorts of Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    It is a "distraction" to take our eye off the ball from the real evil crap they are pushing through and not reporting on!

    Just look at the border and now bringing these darn refugees here during a pandemic! Our states and local budgets are shot. We have no housing, no budget for these people. They can relocate within their own countries or ship them to the coastal resorts of Mexico.
    The good news is, many in our inner cities are beginning to realizing how the Democrat Party's open border policy is hurting them. But hey, I'll let Bernadette Lancelin give her views on this very issue:


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    The Biden/Harris socialist healthcare plan will tax America’s productive citizens and our retired Senior citizens to provide healthcare to the 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country ___ LINK
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    The America First Movement has not been ended by our traitorous and socialist loving Democrat Party Leadership or their GLOBAL GOVERNANCE partners in crime.







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    Our government, once of the people, by the people and for the people, has been transformed into a government of politicians, by politicians and for politicians . . . witness the latest influence peddling fortune being made by the Biden criminal enterprise family.
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