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    Today’s vote to continue an unconstitutional impeachment inquisition

    Today, the House voted on party lines a RESOLUTION:

    “Directing certain committees to continue their ongoing investigations as part of the existing House of Representatives inquiry into whether sufficient grounds exist for the House of Representatives to exercise its Constitutional power to impeach Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, and for other purposes.”

    The problem with this ongoing investigation to impeach President Trump is, the “investigation” to “impeach” by the House of Representatives is part of a process controlled by our Constitution, and our Constitution commands: “The House of Representatives [the makeup of which are Representatives of each of these United States, the total being 435 members] … shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" ___ not Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, or a handful of Representatives, but rather “The House of Representatives”.

    But the “ongoing investigations” have intentionally excluded the vast majority of the people’s Representatives, in addition to excluding the vast majority of the States [through their Representatives], from having an equal input into these “investigations”, and is thus not a process fully participated in by the people’s representatives as commanded by our Constitution!

    In fact, the “ongoing investigations” are part of a process to overturn the election of President Trump by a handful of its members, and to that degree to vote in favor of the RESOLUTION, is to intentionally subvert our Constitution’s guarantee to a “Republican Form of Government” in which none of the People’s Representatives are to be excluded from an equal participation in a process which is so momentous, it actually seeks to overturn an election.

    The RESOLUTION in fact designates members of the Democrat Party Leadership as Judge, Jury, and prosecutor. Let us not forget the wisdom of one of our founders with regard to unfettered power:

    The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47


    The Democrat Party Leadership has stooped to a new low by turning the impeachment process into a frivolous political weapon, to be use to remove a duly elected president and negate one of our nation’s most sacred features ___ its election process.

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    I can say with some certainty that had the Republican Party Leadership attempted such a maneuver during the presidency of Obama when he gave aid and comfort to our enemies held at GITMO by releasing them, or giving aid and comfort to the Iranian government, our sworn enemy, by handing them $1.7 BILLION IN cash which was predictably used to engaging in terrorist acts against the United States, the Democrat Party Leadership would justifiably call it tyranny.


    Let us not forget Rep. Jerrold Nadler called the impeachment process against Clinton a “lynch mob.”
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    The protection requiring a two thirds vote in matters of grave importance

    What is most important in this process to impeach a president is, the vote count, a simple majority, which allegedly authorizes Congress to continue in a process to impeach a president and nullify an election.

    The vote was 232 to 196, in favor of continuing in a process to impeach the president.

    The problem I have with this vote count is, when reviewing our Constitution, with respect to a subject of such great importance and magnitude, a two thirds vote in the House seems to be in order. Not a mere majority vote!

    Let us look at some of the provisions of our constitution requiring a two thirds vote in the House

    Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

    A two thirds vote in the House is also required to override a President’s veto of a bill raising revenue.

    Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

    A two thirds vote in the House is also required to propose amendments to our Constitution.

    A two thirds vote in each House, is also necessary to remove a “disability” under the 14th Amendment…

    And let us not forget that which appears most important to our current conversation ___ a two thirds vote of both Houses is necessary to remove a President who is found unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.
    The fact is, a simple majority vote on a matter which involves the nullification of an election and the removal of a president is simply not consistent with our constitution’s apparent threshold protection requiring a two thirds vote in matters of momentous concern.

    So why are our “conservative” Representatives in the House not challenging a simple majority vote and demanding a two thirds vote to move forward with a process to nullify an election and remove a duly elected president?


    “If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?”___ Justice Story

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