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Former British policeman backs Barack Obama 'birthers' conspiracy theory

A former British policeman is using his Scotland Yard training to help the Birthers, a group of conspiracy theorists, in trying to unseat President Barack Obama.

Published: 11:00AM GMT 23 Nov 2009

Neil Sankey, who has almost 20 years experience serving in Special Branch and the Bomb Squad, is now devoting his energies to proving that Mr Obama is not a natural born US citizen.

He joined the Birthers after meeting Orly Taitz, one of the leaders of the group, which disputes Mr Obama’s claim that he was born in Hawaii.

Over the past year, Mr Sankey has been integral in some of the most aggressive efforts to remove him from office by claiming that his presidency is illegitimate.

He tried to block Obama's inauguration last year by contacting all 538 electoral college representatives who formally elect the president.

Mr Sankey has also carried out an investigation into Mr Obama's personal identification history which he claims shows a suspicious number of social security numbers

He has refuted allegations that his attempts are racially motivated, claiming that he disagrees with Mr Obama’s politics and is convinced that he is not genuine.

Mr Sankey, who moved to California in the 1980s to set up his own private detective agency, told the Guardian: “The objection is not Obama's colour but his politics.

“I like him as a person, I just wish he was genuine.

“It's quite obvious to me — America is heading towards a socialised state just as has happened in Europe. Socialised medicine, everyone on the dole, and when everything collapses you tip the scales into Marxism."

Mr Sankey joined Hampshire Police in 1961 before being seconded as a detective sergeant to Scotland Yard. During the 1970s he tracked left wing political groups and the IRA. He became a naturalised American in 1985.

He believes that his British police training is proving crucial to the work he is now pursuing for the Birthers. He said he uses the same techniques he employed to analyse the IRA's associations, to trace Mr Obama’s past.

Taitz added: “He has had superb training. I have the greatest respect for Scotland Yard.â€

Thought you guys would like this, BTW there is a poll question too!!

KDVR Denver

6:20 PM MST, November 20, 2009



WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. - Call it Freedom of Speech. A billboard recently erected in Wheat Ridge compares President Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship.

The billboard, located at 4855 Miller Road, shows two cartoonish images of Obama wearing a Muslim turban and reads "PRESIDENT or JIHAD?"

It also says "BIRTH CERTIFICATE - PROVE IT!" alluding to the conspiracy theory which claims Barack Obama was born in Kenya rather than Hawaii, which would disqualify him for the office of President.

The words "WAKE UP AMERICA! REMEMBER FT. HOOD!" appear on the bottom of the billboard.

The sign belongs to a car dealership.

"Since Fort Hood, I've had it," owner Phil West told FOX 31 News Friday. "You can't suggest things. You can't profile. You gotta call a spade a spade."

"Everything I have read about Mr. Obama points right to the fact that he is a Muslim. And that is the agenda of what Muslim is all about. It's about anti-American, it's about anti-Christianity," West said.

The Anti-Defamation League condemned the sign, as did AM760 radio host David Sirota, who discussed the sign and interviewed West on his program Friday morning.

"It's out of control," Sirota said. "This conservative hatred of Barack Obama is out of contol, and this brings together all those strands of it: the racism, the anti-Muslim fervor. It's one thing to criticise the president on health care, or Wall Street reform, or immigration. But this is outrageous. And I think it's a fair question to ask why these questions about religion and ancestry are being directed so viciously at the first African-American President of the United States."

While the ADL issued a statement calling the billboard an exploitation of the Ft. Hood shootings that is "divisive and offensive, and perpetuates hateful and harmful stereotypes about Muslims", prominent conservatives have been silent thus far.

"That could suggest that conservative leaders are afraid to confront the extreme fringe of their base," Sirota said. "Or it suggests they actually condone this message. Either way, it's disturbing."

Sirota is an unabashed liberal, but not all self-identified conservatives who drove past the sign Friday disagree with him.

"I'm not concerned with that at all," said Linda Alexander, of Golden, in regard to the dispute over President Obama's American citizenship. "He was elected, he's the president -- that's it, as far as I'm concerned. Some people just can't accept that, obviously."

But Keith Walters, another passing driver, saw nothing wrong with the billboard.

"I can't honestly say he's a Jihadist, but there's a lot of things that are questionable," Walters said. "The whole birth certificate controversy. From what I've read, there's no proof Obama isn't a Muslim. And I don't believe there's any racism [in the billboard]. I think that should be a question asked to any president who -- they have some questionable backgrounds."

Supporters of the birth certificate theory, known as 'Birthers,' believe the Certification of Live Birth produced by the state of Hawaii is a forgery. (view the birth certificate)
http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-obama-bil ... 2065.story
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Poll Question: Do you agree with the Billboard's Message?

A billboard in [Denver suburb] Wheat Ridge compares President Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship (view the billboard).

Agree (8155 responses) 90.4%

Disagree (590 responses) 6.5%

Don't Care (281 responses) 3.1%

9026 total responses
(Results not scientific)

"What's the Constitution got to do with it?" was not a selectable choice.

So, in spite of the biased article, the ayes have it, by a 13 to 1 margin over the nays.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Poll Question: Do you agree with the Billboard's Message?

A billboard in [Denver suburb] Wheat Ridge compares President Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship (view the billboard).

At 6:39pm on 11/23/09, the tally was:

Agree (8155 responses) 90.4%

Disagree (590 responses) 6.5%

Don't Care (281 responses) 3.1%

9026 total responses
(Results not scientific)

"What's the Constitution got to do with it?" was not a selectable choice.

So, in spite of the biased article, the ayes have it, by a 13 to 1 margin over the nays.

At 7:09am on 11/24/09, the tally was:

Do you agree with the message, disagree, or don't care?

Agree (12549 responses) 89.3%

Disagree (1099 responses) 7.8%

Don't Care (404 responses) 2.9%

14052 total responses
(Results not scientific)

Not to worry, but now the ayes have it by an 11.4 to 1 margin over the nays.

We are losing a little ground

billboard in Wheat Ridge compares President Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship (view the billboard).

Do you agree with the message, disagree, or don't care?

*

Agree (12819 responses)

88.9%
*

Disagree (1186 responses)

8.2%
*

Don't Care (416 responses)

2.9%

14421 total responses

(Results not scientific)

Losing ground...maybe...but very little ground. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves pretty loudly.

Originally Posted by cayla99

We are losing a little ground

billboard in Wheat Ridge compares President Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship (view the billboard).

Do you agree with the message, disagree, or don't care?

*

Agree (12819 responses)

88.9%
*

Disagree (1186 responses)

8.2%
*

Don't Care (416 responses)

2.9%

14421 total responses

(Results not scientific)

[quote="HighlanderJuan"][size=117]Mind you, we must remember, that Barack accepts the authenticity of this Nairobi Media, and in his open letter to Kenya, appearing in the 01/18/2009 issue
http://www.eastandard.net/InsidePage.ph ... atid=4&a=1

He states perhaps an admission: “My own city of Chicago has been the home of some of the most corrupt local politics in American history, from patronage machines to questionable elections.â€

Allow me to be the first to wish you and your family a blessed Thanksgiving Day.

Remember to thank the Lord for all your many blessings and for Jesus' love He showed on the cross.

Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC

Allow me to be the first to wish you and your family a blessed Thanksgiving Day.

Remember to thank the Lord for all your many blessings and for Jesus' love He showed on the cross.

Amen

I thank the Lord daily for all of you. I would like to share the words of a true Patriot on this day

George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to "recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789.