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    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    Meanwhile, back at the topic of Mr. Obama's Constitutional ineligibility for the Office of President...
    Getting a little off course, were we? Sorry about that. I viewed these as teaching moments.

    I'll be good hereafter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinutemanCDC_SC
    Meanwhile, back at the topic of Mr. Obama's Constitutional ineligibility for the Office of President...
    I guess I can't do any more than I have. Congress did not need to follow constitutinal rules for the election because of the "war power" laws. We are not and have not been a contitutional society since 1933.

    Regarding what is known as a State of National Emergency, "According to the United States Constitution, Article 1, only Congress shall make federal law. However, since the War and Emergency Powers Act of 1933, every president has usurped lawmaking powers. Their 'laws' are called Executive Orders (EOs). These EOs, not our Constitution, are what is governing America today. The War and Emergency Powers Act enables ... the president to declare a national emergency, and thereby become a dictator."[1]

    Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/1933.htm

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    One final point from another site...

    Interestingly, Senate Report 93-549 [November 19, 1973] has this to say:

    “Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency:

    “A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. …â€

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    Quote Originally Posted by [url=http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=167697
    Ann Coulter[/url]]Obama senior adviser David Axelrod said Greene was not a "legitimate" candidate and called his victory "a mysterious deal." (Yes, how could a young African-American man with strange origins, suspicious funding, shady associations, no experience, no qualifications and no demonstrable work history come out of nowhere and win an election?)
    Ann Coulter makes an unjustified sullying aspersion, smearing an outstanding African-American Democrat by association with a ne'er-do-well.



    Alvin Greene has a thirteen year work history with the U.S. Army and the U.S. Air Force.
    He was honorably discharged, even though involuntarily (possibly for inability to do the work).

    And Manning, South Carolina, is not "nowhere". (Nearby Davis Station... now, that's nowhere.)
    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    We're all looking for a method of stopping the destruction of our country by the progressives, communists, Islamists, Marxists, etc. (including Obama, his staff, and members of Congress), and General Vallely offers another solution - a petition for resignation as discussed in this interview by Sharon Rondeau.

    Read the whole interview here:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/33169623/Shar ... signations

    Perhaps we can start a target list of resignations and get it posted on a web site.

    Any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
    We're all looking for a method of stopping the destruction of our country by the progressives, communists, Islamists, Marxists, etc. (including Obama, his staff, and members of Congress), and General Vallely offers another solution - a petition for resignation as discussed in this interview by Sharon Rondeau.

    Read the whole interview here:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/33169623/Shar ... signations

    Perhaps we can start a target list of resignations and get it posted on a web site.

    Any thoughts?
    Of course I would love to see a call for resignation. But there needs to be a real and just cause. Obviously voter fraud and self misrepresentation does not have enough standing in court.

    I know everyone will get sick of me stuck on this...but usurpation of the Emergency Power Act to illegitimately "legalize" signing bills that have nothing to do with the emergency act is in my opinion manipulation of law or a "stratagem" which is illegal. When you manipulate law to cover up an illegal act or legalize an act it is prosecutable.

    I think that most people will recognize that article one decrees that "only congress" can enact law. So how is it that "EO's" are being passed without so much as a question being raised in unheard of numbers? It is the job of congress to also protect us from usurpation. They also shoud be held accountable.

    I think this legal argument hold teeth far and beyond the usurpation of eligibility. IMHO I truly feel this argument has true legal teeth.

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    Our courts turned agaist us and created a dictatorship.

    The courts in 1937 decreed that treaties, known as executive agreements, signed by presidents do not require consensus or approval by either the legislative (Congress) or judicial (U.S. Supreme Court) branches of the government.
    http://vactruth.com/2010/06/14/fourth-s ... ve-orders/

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    For the record:
    Mr. Obama signed this document attesting that he is a natural born citizen, eligible for the Presidency.

    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
    We're all looking for a method of stopping the destruction of our country by the progressives, communists, Is|amists, Marxists, etc. (including Obama, his staff, and members of Congress), and General Vallely offers another solution - a petition for resignation as discussed in this interview by Sharon Rondeau.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/33169623/Shar ... signations
    The recall petition on WorldNetDaily has over half a million signatures. Certainly it has not escaped the notice of the usurpation, but the illegal squatters have yet to call the moving vans to the White House.

    Mr. Obama is following the life script written by:

    • Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, his communist grandparents;


      his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, a radical revolutionary hippie chick;


      Ché Guevara and Malcolm X, the black revolutionary who may have been Barack Obama II's biological father;
      Frank Marshall Davis (Communist Party USA);
      Saul Alinsky, Leon Trotsky, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and Vladimir Lenin;
      Weathermen Underground radicals Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers (who bombed the Pentagon and walked);
      Richard Cloward, Frances Fox Piven, and the Cloward-Piven Strategy of orchestrated crisis;
      Fr. Phleger and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, proponent of Black Liberation Theology (Marxism dressed in wooly clothes);

      M©hammed;
      Lolo Soetoro, an Is|amic activist in Mus|im Indonesia;
      Mσhammed Hasan Chandoo, Barack Obama II's radical Is|amist roommate at Oxy, who took him to Karachi and then into NW Pakistan, where Barack Obama II linked up with Taliban jihadis and supplied them with guns, logistics, and money from the CIA, which empowered the Taliban to repulse the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan;


      Pakistanis Sohale "Sadik" Siddiqi, Imad Husain, and Wahid Hamid, another of Barack Obama II's roommates at Oxy;
      Edward Said of Columbia Univ., radical PLO apologist and advocate;
      the Mus|im Brotherhood, the Council on American-Is|amic Relations, and the Is|amic Society of North America;
      Raila Odinga, Mr. Obama's murderous Is|amist cousin in Kenya;
      Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas, founders of the PLO;
      PLO press agent Rashid Khalidi and Mona Khalidi, president of the Arab American Action Network;
      Ali Abunimah, co-founder of Electronic Intifada;
      Nadhmi Auchi, Saddam Hussein's oil-for-food profit skimmer and bagman;
      Col. Moammar Qadaffi of Libya, on al Jazeera TV, raising funds for Mr. Obama within Dar al Is|am;
      Nation of Is|am leader Louis Farakkhan and New Black Panther Party leader Malik Zulu Shabazz;
      Sadegh Namazi-khah, founder of the Iranian Mus|im Association of North America;
      and other violent and non-violent radicals pushing the Is|amist or the Communist ideology.

    We pray that we will never get to the despot phase:
    Joseph Stalin, who intentionally engineered the massive Ukraine famine of 1932-1933, which killed five to seven million opponents of collectivization, the Great Purges of 1936-1938, which killed between twenty and forty million dissidents, and the Gulags in Siberia and elsewhere;
    Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goering, and Adolph Eichmann's Final Solution;
    Nikolai Ceausescu of Romania;
    Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il, and the Communist reeducation labor camps;
    Pol Pot and the killing fields in Cambodia;
    Fidel Castro, whose clout as the leader of the non-aligned nations extended from Nicaragua to Angola;
    Idi Amin, the brutal military dictator (1971-1979) who devastated Uganda and slaughtered perhaps 300,000;
    Robert Mugabe, the outlaw thug who continues to ravage and rape Zimbabwe;
    and Saddam Hussein, the butcher of Baghdad.


    Consider what action would cause the usurpation to voluntarily disband. Yes, I thought so too.

    Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication [petition],
    with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
    and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding,
    will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:6-7)

    Petitions to God are the only petitions that will affect the usurpation.

    Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. (Ephesians 6:11-13)

    If you think that ACORN is going to let a little bump in the road like the 2010/2012 elections end the usurpation, you won't do battle in earnest.

    If you think this is an ideological battle against Barack Obama II or against George Soros, against single-payer health care or against Cap-and-Tax, against atheistic communism or even against slavery to Is|am, you won't be waging war against our actual enemies.

    The only action that terrifies the enemies is

    1. repenting of your sins and trusting Jesus to forgive,
    2. living right as the Holy Spirit and His book directs, and
    3. your knees hitting the floor with your heart lifted to God,
    seeking Him to show up as the Deliverer of this Christian nation.


    Monique may not agree with most Christians about being saved from God's condemnation of sin, or about the "thief in the night" rapture of all believers. But she has a good handle on what doing battle with the unseen hosts of wickedness is all about. Scroll down to
    The NWO's war against humanity and against the earth
    = Lucifer's war against humanity and against the earth.
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    One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.

    Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
    tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.

    The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!

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    Thanks, MinuteMan.

    I don't remember seeing the Arizona certification before. I placed a copy on Scribd.com

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/33249447/Obam ... tification

    Juan
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    I have never seen these documents. I thought only the forged DNC's were issued. Being a supposed "constitutional attorney" the eligibility issue stands as an even greater threat of falsifying information and perjury against the country to defraud them by means of payment for services while in office.

    This is not going away...it grows each and every day.

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