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02-08-2012, 01:01 AM #4811
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Originally Posted by 2wolves Farker, commenting at WND
from where one views a phenomenon or an event.
I see tens upon tens of millions of U.S. citizens sworn to support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Do you consider it "racism" to support and defend the U.S. Constitution?
Or would you prefer that I throw the Constitution under the bus in order to
open up the Presidency to a Constitutionally ineligible candidate of color?
"No person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President;"
- the U.S. Constitution, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5.
A natural born Citizen is
a citizen
born in the country
of parents who are citizens.
According to Minor v. Happersett (1875), the governing U.S. Supreme Court decision on nbC:
"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens.
Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the
nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was
never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens
became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or
natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Some authorities go further and include as citizens [but not as natural born
Citizens] children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the
citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts [about
their citizenship], but never as to the first."
- Chief Justice Morrison Remick Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875)
Trip at Hannity Forums, to whom I yield the floor, states it well:
...there are more than 100 years of Supreme Court opinion clearly indicating the definition of natural born citizen, and even indicating a reference consulted by our founders as they authored the Constitution in Carpenter's Hall, that reference being Emerick de Vattel's [The] Law of Nations.
► 1759 E. de Vattel, The Law of Nations, book 1, c. 19, sec. 212 (1758; 1759 first English translation);
► 1814 The Venus, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (Marshall, C.J., concurring) (cites Vattel’s definition of natural born citizens);
► 1830 Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel);
► 1875 Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875) (same definition without citing Vattel);
► 1879 Ex parte Reynolds, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (1879) (same definition and cites Vattel);
► 1890 United States v. Ward, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D.Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel);
► 1898 U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (189 (WKA only declared under the Fourteenth Amendment a child born on U.S. soil to foreign parents and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States a “citizen of the United States” and not an Article II “natural born Citizen;” in his dissent, [Chief Justice] Fuller confirmed Vattel’s definition of a “natural born Citizen”);
► 1899 Keith v. U.S., 8 Okla. 446; 58 P. 507 (Okla. 1899) (common law rule that the offspring of free persons followed the condition of the father was applied to determine the citizenship status of a child).
[I could continue with Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), The Slaughterhouse Cases (1873), Elk v. Wilkins (1884), Perkins v. Elg (1939), and so on. But, dear reader, lest I be penalized for piling on, I spare you. - ED.]
Vattel's definition of natural born citizen, as cited in the 1759 English translation of that treatise, The Law of Nations, and referenced in more than 100 years of this country's Supreme Court decisions, is the following:
"§ 212. Citizens and natives.
"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights."
This definition is nowhere undermined by any legal authority at any time in this country's history, though some have argued that it should no longer be applicable. Some have argued that the 14th Amendment created some new form of citizen and even modified "natural born citizen" as a result. However the 14th [Amendment] never references "natural born citizen" at all. The 14th [Amendment]'s reference to "born or naturalized" merely groups those achieving citizenship upon birth (born), by both statute and natural born status, with those achieving citizenship after birth (naturalized).Last edited by MinutemanCDC_SC; 02-08-2012 at 08:20 AM.
One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-08-2012, 09:00 AM #4812
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Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp accepts Judge Malihi's ruling.
Attorney Orly Taitz files appeal; Van Irion and Mark Hatfield to follow.
Originally Posted by Bob Unruh for WorldNetDailyOne man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-08-2012, 07:56 PM #4813
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Originally Posted by Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D., for WorldNetDaily
Litigation in a coerced, compromised, corrupt court system is a waste of time and money, with a 100% failure rate in over 76 trials to date.
There has to be a better way... perhaps by using the Cold Case Posse findings:
to motivate and mobilize America's sheriffs to restore law and order from this chaos, to reestablish legitimate governance from this illegal seizing of power, and eventually, to bring this man of lawlessness to pay the penalty for his high crimes, for example:
► sedition against the U.S. Constitution, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5, and otherwise changing the meaning of the Constitution without amendment by 2/3 of Congress and ratification by 3/4 of the States,
► t-----n,
► identity theft and fraud,
► election fraud,
► document fraud,
► Social Security fraud,
► Selective Service registration fraud,
► passport fraud,
► perjury before the Illinois bar in the matter of denying having any aliases,
► possible property tax fraud in re 5046 S. Greenwood Ave., Chicago, Ill.,
► perjurious false swearing of the presidential oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, while in the act of violating it,
► impersonation of an officer of the United States,
► misappropriation of government funds under false pretenses,
► declaring and executing private wars and foreign assassinations
under the color of authority fraudulently obtained, etc.,
to put the fraudulent usurpation before the people in a recall or no confidence vote, both at the regular polling places and by secure Internet polling;
to bring about and mobilize massive demonstrations at strategic points around D.C.;
to bring about and mobilize standing and continuing demonstrations at stateside home offices of Congress persons, so as to persuade them to derecognize "the pretender to the throne" and to discourage their continuing cooperation with the illegitimately contrived executive branch;
to once and for all convince the Joint Chiefs of Staff that it is in their best interests, and those of the country, not to support or empower the lawless and unlawful Communist-in-Chief;
to convince the member banks of the Fed, along with the Chinese, the Saudis, the IMF, and others, that they are dangerously at risk loaning money to an illegitimate government under illegitimate authority, because its days are numbered;
to convince many foreign governments to officially cease to recognize the usurpation as a legitimate government and its ambassadors as legitimate representatives of the United States;
to persuade America's churches to stop the pretense of praying for "the President" and get busy praying for the country to be delivered from a foreign and domestic enemy of the Constitution, a bully who seized control of the country in a coup d'état, a communist dictator who is actively dismantling, redistributing, and dissolving the United States . . . no, that would be too much to expect. But God always has a remnant: leading Christians who haven't been neutered and neutralized by dependence upon 501(c)3 tax exemptions.Last edited by MinutemanCDC_SC; 02-13-2012 at 06:41 AM.
One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-10-2012, 03:02 PM #4814
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I'm looking for news of Walter F. Fitzpatrick's release from the Monroe Co. jail in Madisonville, Tennessee.
He was scheduled to be released at 9:45 pm on Feb. 9th.One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-10-2012, 03:32 PM #4815
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LCDR Walter F. Fitzpatrick, III (USN-ret.), was released last night
from the Monroe Co., Tenn., jail, according to Mrs. Sharon Rondeau,
editor of The Post & Email.
She has a story posted there about Walter's release from the gulag.
James David Manning reports on Walter's release
on the Feb. 9th Manning report (beginning at 17:00).Last edited by MinutemanCDC_SC; 02-11-2012 at 07:29 PM.
One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-12-2012, 12:50 AM #4816
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Originally Posted by The Hill
Has any pollster, even one, taken a poll:
"Will there be - manifestly and verifiably - free, fair, and honest elections this Nov. 6th?"One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-14-2012, 12:53 PM #4817
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"Hon. Beth Chapman, Secretary of State of Alabama" <Beth.chapman@sos.alabama.gov>;
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"Hon. Cynthia Brock-Smith, Secretary of the District of Columbia" <secretary@dc.gov>;
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"Hon. Gregory Francis, Lieutenant Governor of the Virgin Islands" <sonia.boyce@lgo-vi.gov>One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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02-14-2012, 01:47 PM #4818
Did Judge Malihi Base Eligibility Decision On Sharia Law?
February 13, 2012 By Suzanne Eovald
“This is an outrage, an absolute outrage,” Attorney Orly Taitz told a radio audience in Western New York. She believes Judge Michael Malihi, a Clinton era appointee, is from Iran which could have a bearing if he is steeped in Sharia Law. When he brought down a favorable decision for Obama’s appearing on state ballots, Taitz sent by overnight courier a 23 page appeal to Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp pleading with him to ignore the judge’s advisory decision – to no avail.
Kemp rubber stamped the Malihi decision, and now the appeal process begins in earnest. Plaintiff attorney J. Mark Hatfield will escalate this case to the appellate level immediately. With emergency appeals well in place before Georgia’s March 6 Super Tuesday, Hatfield told World Net Daily: ”I will be filing that on behalf of Carl Swensson and Kevin Richard Powell just as soon as I can get it drafted!”
Taitz told her listeners: “It was abundantly clear…that Judge Malihi was under an outside pressure to rush the case.” Her appeal contains three key procedural points. First, Malihi refused to allow her to properly present her opening statement. Secondy, he rushed plaintiff witnesses. Finally, throughout the case he would allow only the Natural Born Citizen argument. But what Malihi did was unprecedented because he based his decision on the Arkeny [sic] v. Daniels case out of Indiana which was never cited by the defense! “A presiding judge cannot suddenly pull out of a hat some case,” Taitz fumed.
Trying to follow up on the Malihi Iranian angle proved very frustrating. Another blogger trying to trace Judge Michael Malihi’s background found virtually NO information on him, although other judicial search subjects presented much biographical data. She was able to find names of Malihi’s relatives, namely Mehdi Malihi, Masoud M. Malihi, Malie S. Malihi, Mahzad Malihi, and Lia E. Malihi. The street address given for his Westport, CT estate appears to list a house number higher than official records enumerate, so this is just another facet of the Georgia mystery judge.
The Taitz presentation revealed that our current president’s name on his mother’s passport was SOEBARKAH, yet in his Indonesian school records his last name is Soetoro! She said on appeal: “Obama never presented admissible competent evidence showing Obama to be born in this country, yet the judge considered Obama to be born here.”
She also appealed for consideration the fact that there is “no valid Social Security number, and that the E verify test failed” for the number commonly given. But in spite of his verdict, the judge for the first time allowed evidence pertaining to the challenge of Barack Obama’s eligibility to run for U.S. President to be admitted into open court, thus paving the way for the appeals process. Obama’s Malihi victory may be a Pyrrhic one indeed!
Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is announcing the findings of his cold case posse research on March 1; he told reporter Jerome Corsi in an exclusive story that some will find the results “Shocking!”
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02-14-2012, 02:09 PM #4819working4changeGuest
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02-20-2012, 12:51 AM #4820
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Posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center blog (although I doubt they will publish it):
Birthers racists? No, I see tens upon tens of millions of U.S. citizens sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Do you consider it "racism" to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, including Amendment XIV?
Or would you prefer that I throw the Constitution under the bus in order to open up the Presidency to a Constitutionally ineligible candidate of color?
"No person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President;"
- the U.S. Constitution, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5.
A natural born Citizen is
a citizen
born in the country
of parents who are citizens,
according to over 2400 years of common usage in Western Civilization, dating back to Herodotus and Plato in the 5th c. and 4th c. B.C. (except in Great Britain during the 18th c., when the tyrant King George III was grasping for subjects);
and according to correspondence among the Framers of the Constitution: John Jay, Geo. Washington, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, David Ramsay, and others.
According to Minor v. Happersett (1875), the governing U.S. Supreme Court decision on nbC:
"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Some authorities go further and include as citizens [but not as natural born Citizens] children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts [about their citizenship], but never as to the first."
- Chief Justice Morrison Remick Waite, writing the unanimous decision in Minor v. Happersett (1875).
Trip at Hannity Forums, to whom I yield the floor, states it well:
...there are more than 100 years of Supreme Court opinion clearly indicating the definition of natural born citizen, and even indicating a reference consulted by our founders as they authored the Constitution in Carpenter's Hall, that reference being Emerich de Vattel's [The] Law of Nations.
► 1759 E. de Vattel, The Law of Nations, book 1, c. 19, sec. 212 (1758; 1759 first English translation);
► 1814 The Venus, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (Marshall, C.J., concurring) (cites Vattel’s definition of natural born citizens);
► 1830 Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (same definition without citing Vattel);
► 1875 Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (same definition without citing Vattel);
► 1879 Ex parte Reynolds, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (same definition and cites Vattel);
► 1890 United States v. Ward, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D.Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel);
► 1898 U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (WKA only declared {by the Fourteenth Amendment} a child born on U.S. soil to foreign parents and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States a “citizen of the United States” and not an Article II “natural born Citizen;” in his dissent, [Chief Justice] Fuller confirmed de Vattel’s definition of a “natural born Citizen”);
► 1899 Keith v. U.S., 8 Okla. 446; 58 P. 507 (Okla. 1899) (common law rule that the offspring of free persons followed the condition of the father was applied to determine the citizenship status of a child).
[I could continue with Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), The Slaughterhouse Cases (1873), Elk v. Wilkins (1884), Perkins v. Elg (1939), and so on. But, dear reader, lest I be penalized for piling on, I spare you. - ED.]
The following is de Vattel's definition of natural born citizen, as cited in the 1759 English translation of his treatise, The Law of Nations, and referenced in more than 100 years of this country's Supreme Court decisions.
Originally Posted by Emerich de Vattel
Now, one can argue against the Constitution, one can argue against common sense, and one can CERTAINLY argue against conservative principles and the precedent-proven meanings of legal idioms and terms of art. But one who argues against his Creator, Who placed him where He made him and gave him inalienable rights to life and liberty, just because his Maker did not make him a natural born citizen, born in the country to citizen parents, and so grant him the arguable privilege to become the President or Vice President - such a one is following the devil, who through pride acknowledged not his place and counted himself eligible to replace Yahweh, the Lord God, as Sovereign of the universe, earning damnation in eternal fire as his just reward. For such a one there is even less hope than for a fool, because a fool may yet learn wisdom from painful experience and obedience from that which he suffers. But the proud never have that chance to learn, for their pride goes before destruction, and that without remedy.
Lord Jesus, have mercy upon Mr. Obama's soul, for he knows not what he is doing.One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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