Thread: Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

I understand Mr. Noonan's pain at being denied justice in a court of law. The grief of having the conviction of "equal justice under the law" torn from one's heart is very real and tangible, even though it almost certainly does not appear in the DSM-5, scheduled to be published 16 days from now. In truth, the psychiatric anomaly actually lies with men and women who, under threat of legal sanction, recall, or impeachment, are hammering away against equal justice under law, all "honorable" men and women who are SWORN to support, defend, and uphold the Constitution of the United States and yet are undermining it, at the peril of their eternal souls.

Have these "honorable" Americans completely lost sight of giving an account for their lives to the Lord Jesus Christ on that day? What will they say when they are asked what they did to preserve the republic given to them by the sacrifices and starvation of Christian refugees, by the blood of patriots who counted freedom worth more than life, by 55 Christian delegates, men of courage, honor, and substance who risked their all when they interpreted "Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof," to mean the Declaration of Independence, by 39 Constitutional Convention delegates who signed James Madison's rendering of Christian principles as wielded into our governing document, the Constitution of the United States, and who gave us the republic in which we stand, on the land upon which our Creator and Redeemer planted us?!? They could have made George Washington king of the United States for life, but instead, they established freedom for the life of our country!

Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court is one such man of courage and Christian conviction, forged in the furnace of persecution for his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ Who with the Father and the Holy Spirit are YaHWeH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Who gave to Moses and Aaron and the descendants of Israel the Ten Commandments, written on stone tablets by the finger of God. Ten years ago, Judge Moore's principled stand for the Ten Commandments to stand in the lobby of the Alabama Judicial Building in Montgomery cost him his position as Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court. But he was reelected Chief Justice last November, and less than three months after he was reinstated as Chief Justice, Atty. Larry Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch, filed an appeal of an eligibility case dismissed by the Montgomery Circuit Court.

The case was incorrectly filed directly with the Alabama Supreme Court and therefore dismissed by a state circuit court in Feb. of 2012. Now the case is being brought through correct channels, a state circuit court, which almost guarantees a fair hearing before the courageous Judge Roy Moore. BUT he will probably have little to do with the case besides remanding it to the state circuit court with an order to give the case against Alabama Sec. of State Beth Chapman a fair trial. Sec. Chapman will say that the U.S. Constitution required her to grant the State of Hawaii full faith and credit when they claimed the (counterfeit) Certificate of Live Birth was a legitimate State of Hawaii document. Then it'll be back to Hawaii for another run at the State of Hawaii Health Dept., the State of Hawaii Registrar, the Hawaii Democratic State Convention, and the Hawaii State Courts.

Originally Posted by WorldNetDaily.com

Obama eligibility appeal in Roy Moore's court

Newly elected state chief justice has expressed doubt about qualification

Published: 03/30/2013 at 7:39 PM



Many cases challenging Barack Obama’s presidential eligibility have come and gone, but now an appeal has been filed with a state Supreme Court led by a newly elected chief justice who has expressed doubt about Obama’s qualification for office.

Roy Moore was elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court last November, a decade after he defied a federal order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the state Supreme Court building.

Now, 2012 Constitution Party presidential nominee Virgil Goode and Alabama Republican Party leader Hugh McInnish are asking the state’s highest court to force Secretary of State Beth Chapman to verify that all candidates on the state’s 2012 ballot were eligible to serve.

Attorney Larry Klayman, founder of the Washington, D.C.-watch dog Judicial Watch and now head of Freedom Watch, filed the appeal Tuesday with the Alabama Supreme Court, asking for oral arguments.

“We are hopeful that Chief Justice Moore and the rest of the jurists on the Alabama Supreme Court will follow the law,” Klayman told WND.

Klayman says he and his team “have great respect for Chief Justice Moore and his integrity and legal acumen.”

“He is one courageous and brave man. There are few in this country.”

The case is an appeal of a dismissal by the Montgomery Circuit Court.

In his brief, Klayman says “credible evidence and information from an official source” was presented to Chapman before the election indicating Obama might not have been qualified for Oval Office.

The complaint argues Chapman failed her constitutional duty as secretary of state to verify the eligibility of candidates.

Moore is on the record questioning Obama’s eligibility.

In an interview with WND in 2010, he defended Lt. Col Terrence Lakin’s demand that President Obama prove his eligibility as commander in chief as a condition of obeying deployment orders.

Moore said he had seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a natural-born citizen and much evidence that suggests he is not.

Moore said Lakin “not only has a right to follow his personal convictions under the Constitution, he has a duty.”

“And if the authority running the efforts of the war is not a citizen in violation of the Constitution, the order is unlawful,” he said.

‘Affirmative duty’

Klayman asserts the secretary of state “has an affirmative duty that stems from her oath of office under both the U.S. and Alabama Constitutions, to protect the citizens from fraud and other misconduct by candidates.”

As a result of her refusal to investigate the qualifications of candidates for president, Klayman says, “a person believed to be unqualified for that office has been elected.”

The remedy, he said, “is to require each candidate to do what every teenager is required to do to get a learner’s permit.”

“It is to produce a bona fide birth certificate … and the Secretary of State is the official to cause that to happen.”

McInnish is a member of the Madison County Republican Executive Committee and also sits on the state Republican Executive Committee.

Citing the investigation of Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse, Klayman says Chapman “gained knowledge from an official source that there was probable cause to believe the Barack Obama had not met a certifying qualification.”

The appeal brief notes McInnish visited the secretary of state’s office Feb. 2, 2012, and spoke with the deputy secretary of state, Emily Thompson, in Chapman’s absence.

Thompson, the brief says, “represented that her office would not investigate the legitimacy of any candidate, thus violating her duties under the U.S. and Alabama Constitutions.”

As WND reported, Arpaio and his team concluded that Obama’s long-form birth certificate was a computer-generated forgery.

Klayman, in a previous brief, argued the secretary of state, “having the power to certify candidates, can surely de-certify – in effect disqualify – them if they are found to be ineligible.”

In his new appeal, Klayman points, as an example, to California Secretary of State Debra Bowen’s rejection of Petra Lindsay on the 2012 California primary ballot because she was 27 years old. The U.S. Constitution requires the president to be at least 35.

In his conclusion, Klayman argues the fact that the election is over does not make the case moot.

“It would be paradoxical beyond measure if the real and grave question of the legitimacy of the de facto President, a question which lies at the very heart of our American Constitutional Government, were left unresolved for want of the simplest of documents, a birth certificate.”

If either a bona fide birth certificate is produced or an admission is made that it does not exist, he writes, “this most important of legal questions will have been answered, the purity of Alabama’s ballot maintained, and the anxiety of Alabama citizens stilled.”

If the issue is not resolved, he said, citizens will be left with the impression “that their government was dysfunctional and has ignored their real concerns.

‘Certain documentation’

In an earlier step in the case one year ago, before a panel of Alabama Supreme Court justices, one justice raised doubts about Obama’s eligibility.

The justices denied a petition filed by McInnish seeking to require Obama submit an original birth certificate before he could be placed on the state’s 2012 ballot.

Justice Tom Parker filed a special, unpublished concurrence in the case arguing that McInnish’s charges of “forgery” were legitimate cause for concern.

“Mclnnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition, which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the ‘short form’ and the ‘long form’ birth certificates of President Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public.”

The “certain documentation” is the findings of Arpaio’s investigation.

“The Alabama Constitution implies that this court is without jurisdiction over McInnish’s original petition,” Parker explained. “The office of the secretary of state of Alabama is not a ‘court of inferior jurisdiction’ that this court may control through the issuance of a writ in response to a petition.”

Now, however, the case is coming from a lower court.

‘Obama violated the Constitution’

Moore told WND in an interview after his election last November that the country must return to a standard in which the rule of law prevails over politics.

He said Obama violated the Constitution when he bombed Libya, because the Constitution stipulates only Congress shall declare war.

“No president has the power to violate constitutional restraints of power,” Moore said.

“The Constitution is the rule of law, and [my job is] to uphold the rule of law.”

Government’s job, Moore said, is to secure and protect those rights.

“There is little regard for the Constitution in the courts today, even [in] the U.S. Supreme Court.”

http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/obama-eli...-moores-court/

Will Alabama Supreme Court Jettison the Impostor President?
Since Leo Donofrio filed the first eligibility challenge back in late 2008, the in-your-face Marxist, Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama, along with his America hating militant comrades, have been systematically destroying this republic. The gutless cowards in the U.S. Congress -- including the ones who have retired, i.e., Jim DeMint and Ron Paul -- ALL know full well Soetoro was and is forever constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of president........

WILL ALABAMA SUPREME COURT JETTISON THE IMPOSTOR PRESIDENT?

By: Devvy
May 5, 2013
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Since Leo Donofrio filed the first eligibility challenge back in late 2008, the in-your-face Marxist, Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama, along with his America hating militant comrades, have been systematically destroying this republic. The gutless cowards in the U.S. Congress -- including the ones who have retired, i.e., Jim DeMint and Ron Paul -- ALL know full well Soetoro was and is forever constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of president.

They've all received comprehensive, detailed packages with enough evidence - not speculation - to convene a grand jury ten times over. Issa, McConnell, Rand Paul, Juan McCain, Pelosi, Schumer, Reid -- ALL of them know he usurped the office as well as using forged documents and submitting a forged birth certificate for the whole world to see.

Tens of millions of uninformed Americans voted for Soetoro in 2008, so they could brag about voting for "America's first black president." Barry Soetoro is bi-racial; Caucasian and Negro. Those who genuflect at the altar of political correctness and wear "white guilt" like a badge of honor have overlooked that thorny little fact because it disturbs their self-righteous "I'm not a racist, I voted for a black man" comfort zone.

Soetoro should never have been allowed on any ballot, but those of us who have followed this gigantic fraud from the beginning have watched judges, one after another, display either outright ignorance regarding the 'natural born citizen' requirement in the Constitution or act like the same flavor cowards as the entire U.S. Congress who did not stop the electoral college vote in January 2009 or 2013. Not one stood up for the Constitution. Not Michelle Bachmann. Not Ron Paul. Not Jim DeMint. Not Jeff Sessions. Not Mitch McConnell. Not Orrin Hatch. Not Steve King. Not Rand Paul. Not one of them either time.

Those of us who have stood up for the Constitution have been excoriated by favorites on the right like David Horowitz, who either doesn't understand the 'natural born citizen' requirement or simply doesn't care. Cable network powerhouses like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly with paychecks of one million dollars a month plus, have not only blown off the constitutional issue of Soetoro's eligibility, they go out of their way to mock you and me. Highly intelligent, sincere constitutional attorneys who have represented plaintiffs in eligibility cases are equally slashed and burned by the aforementioned who have sold their soul for buckets of cash. Well, their ad sponsors and FOX News Network doesn't get my money.

The tens of millions of mindless members of the Democratic/Communist Party USA willingly voted for their own execution while thinking it was a great idea. A nation of fools who shame every drop of blood spilled to birth this constitutional republic.

Needed votes magically appeared by electronic vote fraud, again. Phantom voters were created by individuals who would do anything to see a Marxist in our White House. Those whores for the Democratic/Communist Party USA have now been convicted:

Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud

"A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. Two Democratic political operatives were convicted Thursday night in the illegal scheme after only three hours of deliberations. They were found guilty on all counts.

"Former longtime St. Joseph County Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. was found guilty of felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud and forgery, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe was found guilty of felony forgery counts and falsely making a petition, after being accused of faking petitions that enabled Obama, then an Illinois Senator, to get on the presidential primary ballot for his first run for the White House. Morgan was accused of being the mastermind behind the plot."

How many haven't been caught and charged? Since fraud put Comrades Soetoro and Clinton the ballot in Indiana, what about those electoral college votes? Indiana has 11, but since Soetoro was ineligible, no electoral college delegate could cast a vote for him.

The legal fact is Romney won the election. Since Barry Soetoro aka Obama was born with dual citizenship, his name should not have appeared on any ballot in any state. No one had the right to vote for him. Romney was the only legitimate candidate on the ballot and therefore, won the election.

Many will remember the noble battle fought by Roy Moore back in 2001 over displaying the Ten Commandments in a state owned building. He was elected Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court and began his fight to keep a monument of the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Judicial Building. A federal judge ordered it removed. Justice Moore said no. There are very few real men like that left in this country. On November 13, 2003, the Alabama Court of the Judiciary unanimously removed Judge Roy as Chief Justice. That good, decent man remained active in the fight and on November 6, 2012, he won his election to again become Chief Justice for the Alabama Supreme Court.

We have now come full circle as they say:

Obama eligibility appeal in Roy Moore's court (Do take the time to read the whole article)

"Now, 2012 Constitution Party presidential nominee Virgil Goode and Alabama Republican Party leader Hugh McInnish are asking the state's highest court to force Secretary of State Beth Chapman to verify that all candidates on the state's 2012 ballot were eligible to serve.

"Attorney Larry Klayman, founder of the Washington, D.C.-watch dog Judicial Watch and now head of Freedom Watch, filed the appeal Tuesday with the Alabama Supreme Court, asking for oral arguments. “We are hopeful that Chief Justice Moore and the rest of the jurists on the Alabama Supreme Court will follow the law,” Klayman told WND. Klayman says he and his team “have great respect for Chief Justice Moore and his integrity and legal acumen.”

“He is one courageous and brave man. There are few in this country.” The case is an appeal of a dismissal by the Montgomery Circuit Court. In his brief, Klayman says “credible evidence and information from an official source” was presented to Chapman before the election indicating Obama might not have been qualified for Oval Office


"The complaint argues Chapman failed her constitutional duty as secretary of state to verify the eligibility of candidates. Moore is on the record questioning Obama’s eligibility. In an interview with WND in 2010, he defended Lt. Col Terrence Lakin’s demand that President Obama prove his eligibility as commander in chief as a condition of obeying deployment orders. Moore said he had seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a natural-born citizen and much evidence that suggests he is not. Moore said Lakin “not only has a right to follow his personal convictions under the Constitution, he has a duty.”

Millions of Americans are aware of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's 'Cold Case Posse' who have determined through forensic evidence and a long investigation that Soetoro's birth certificate is a forgery. I do encourage you to listen to this interview:

Stunning New Revelations On Obama Fraud Case. April 9, 2013- You Tube

"On Friday April 5, 2013 -- Carl Gallups of Freedom Friday with Carl Gallups interviewed Mike Zullo, Lead Investigator, with the Sheriff Arpaio Cold Case Posse. The interview was conducted over an hour and half portion of Carl's show. Zullo and Gallups promised stunning new revelations in the case ... and in spite of the Obamabot naysayers and, apparently, those incapable of intelligently discerning spoken information -- Gallups and Zullo delivered on the promise!

"Below is a recap of the revelations (In the 'Show More' below video):

"1. Within the last 2 days before the interview, Zullo confirmed that brand new information had been received in the investigation which bolstered the legal evidence of the long form birth certificate being a 100% fabricated and fraudulent document. The information came, unexpected, from a professional source of the investigation, and is irrefutable.

"2. Within the last couple of days before the interview, Zullo had several lengthy meetings with VIPS who have promised to soon bring this case forward in an "official" manner. The VIPS are of "standing" and have the authority to bring the case forward. They have promised full public exposure to the case, the evidence, and to the hopeful ends of a full and official "hearing" of the matter.

"3. A definitive "plan of action" is now being formulated with several VIPS to make number 3 above happen as soon as possible. (I think it say 2)
"4. Several other VIPS have now scheduled meetings with Zullo and are expected to come on board with the exposure process."

Read More here.

This has to worry Soetoro's handlers:

Cold Case Posse Will Assist in Alabama Supreme Court Case Against Obama:

‘We recently discovered new irrefutable evidence, which confirms, hands down, the document is a fraud’ - Mike Zullo, Lead Investigator CCP.

"As Carl Gallups (PPSIMMONS founder and host of Freedom Friday With Carl Gallups) and Mike Zullo (lead investigator of the Sheriff Joe Arpaio Cold Case Posse) have been telling us, things are moving closer to bringing the fraudulent Obama birth certificate case to a level of federal prosecution. According to Zullo, there are increasing numbers of people, whom he refers to as “VIPs,” that will not only bring the case to the public light, but also to a high level of legal prosecution.....

"Mike Zullo has confirmed to PPSIMMONS in an exclusive interview that the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse will assist in the Alabama Supreme Court case. Zullo said, “We still have a potential criminal case pending as well. We will be careful to protect the evidence that will be used in that criminal case, however, Sheriff Arpaio wants us to fully cooperate with Alabama and Justice Moore in this case because the CCP is now pulling out all the stops. We are stepping this up at all levels possible.

This will be the only civil case in which we, the CCP, have ever participated. But we, and Sheriff Arpaio, feel it is extremely important to do so.” (The rest of the article is worth the time to read. Carl Gallups is a former Florida Law Enforcement Officer and named one of the top 25 conservative talk radio hosts in the nation.)

Speaking of Supreme Courts, Soetoro is licking his lips like a cat that got the canary. I predict it won't belong before one of the cowards on the U.S. Supreme Court announces his/her retirement. My guess would be CFR lapdog, Ruth Bader Ginsberg. If Barry's handlers see their empty suit is in real trouble with the Alabama case, one or more socialists of advanced age on the U.S. Supreme Court might be "nudged" to hurry up and retire.

The case before the Alabama Supreme Court may very well be our last hope in removing the impostor and his militant Marxist wife, Michelle, from the White House. Will that court have the courage to rule for the U.S. Constitution or will some members cave to racial blackmail because you can bet the race card will front and center. Race racketeers like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will be all over the media in over drive. We all need to pray for Justice Moore and the other justices on that court who know Soetoro usurped the office of president.

Important Links:
1- Is GOP fear of race riots stopping any real investigation into Obama’s past?
2- First and Only Clean Eligibility Supreme Court Petition
3- The U.S. Supreme Court Should be Impeached
4- Obama - Maybe a Citizen of the United States but Not a "natural born Citizen" of the United States
5- The Natural Born Citizen Clause of Our U.S. Constitution Requires that Both of the Child’s 6- Parents Be U.S. Citizens At the Time of Birth
6- Lakin is Obama's Willie Horton

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Atty. Philip J. Berg was actually the first to file suit, on Aug. 21, 2008. Judge Barclay Surrick dismissed that case in the Pennsylvania Eastern District Court on Oct. 24, 2008.

Originally Posted by dalongleggedmackdaddy

In order for a court to rule that Obama has to show you ID
there must first be a law in place that requires Obama to show you his ID.

There is no such law.

@ dalongleggedmackdaddy , no one is asking to see his ID.
We know WHAT he is just from the smell of smoke.

DNC chairwoman Rep. Nancy Pelosi should have demanded that then-Sen. Obama provide proof of natural-born citizenship, if only to protect herself from committing perjury by certifying him for nomination. Even so, she knew... when the Hawaii Democratic Party chairman refused to sign the DNC Certification of Nomination, if not for years before that.

"No person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible
to the Office of President;" (U.S. Constitution, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5),

and Mr. Obama is not that. He was born in Mombasa, Kenya, to a Kenyan citizen father of record and a U.S. citizen mother who was 117 days under the age of 19, the age required (a U.S. resident for "five years after the age of fourteen") by the INA of 1952 to confer her U.S. citizenship upon her and an alien's foreign-born child. So he was not an nbC, not a U.S. citizen at birth, and not even a U.S. citizen until three days later, when his grandparent(s) in Honolulu registered his birth to a Hawaii resident. He was MADE a U.S. citizen BY STATUTE, not born a citizen by nature: that is, a natural-born citizen.

At the time of the ratification of the Constitution, and for 110 years thereafter, a child received U.S. citizenship ONLY from his or her father, unless no father was named. If for no other reason than his non-U.S. citizen father, Barack Obama II is not a natural-born Citizen, as even his vaunted Certificate and Certification both indicate (not that they are anything but forgeries, but they are all that Mr. Obama has offered).

Given the prima facie evidence of forgery in his presented birth documents, and

given the fraudulent DNC certification of nomination which Hawaii Democratic Party chairman Brian Schatz refused to sign, requiring that DNC chairwoman Nancy Pelosi and DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond sign the certification just for the one state that knew better, specifically because

the HDP's legal counsel was previously the attorney for Anna (Dunham) Soetoro in her process for divorce from Lolo Soetoro and would necessarily have seen either:

1. Barack Obama II's original birth certificate, with his footprint, from Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya; or
   
   
2. the original, unamended State of Hawaii Certificate of Birth for a non-hospital birth to a Hawaii resident, signed by Madelyn (or Stanley A.) Dunham on behalf of Anna Obama in her absence, who was either still in Kenya or flying from Nairobi to Seattle; or
   
   
3. a genuine, AMENDED State of Hawaii Certificate of Birth, officially revised by the State of Hawaii Dept. of Health upon Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barack Obama II being adopted by Lolo Soetoro and becoming a citizen of Indonesia, if indeed the Hawaii DOH was actually notified of that event . . .

given such rampant fraud, what (besides coercion, ignorance, brainwashing, or insanity) could cause anyone to believe that even a Hawaii birth document that was not patently counterfeit at first glance like the one he claimed as his own on April 27, 2011, would be credible coming from one with such a history of dishonesty and deceit?



http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/13/...dina-kutnicki/

It is obvious to all, especially to his apologists who have to devise excuses for him, that Mr. Obama is a fraud and a fake. Nevertheless, we MUST have an examination and a ruling by a court of competent jurisdiction - not under duress by thugs - of his phony "birth documents" and the voluminous other evidence of his constitutional ineligibility for office. The time for Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Barack Obama II, to just "show his ID" is long gone.

[ED.: An update from Atty. Orly Taitz...]

[In Larry Klayman's case, Goode, McInnish v. Chapman, before the Supreme Court of Alabama,] "Affidavit of Mike Zullo" was attached as an exhibit to the motion to strike the Amicus Curiae brief of AL Dem Party; it is not a part of the underlying case or Appellant’s brief or a reply to the brief by the Appellee, [Alabama] Secretary of State [Beth Chapman.]

Posted on | May 15, 2013

Please, see for yourselves: Mike Zullo’s affidavit is only an exhibit to the motion to strike the Amicus Curiae (friend of the court) brief by the Democratic Party of AL. I was correct in what I was saying.

This "affidavit of Mike Zullo" is not a part of the case in the lower court, it is not an exhibit to the Appellate Brief or a reply to the Appellate Brief. Most courts of Appeals or higher courts disregard most of the Amicus Curiae, they have absolutely no duty to even look at them. For example, Lucas Smith filed a Amicus Curiae in this case; nobody even bothers to respond to it. So, if the Supreme Court of Alabama decides to simply disregard this Amicus Curiae by the Dem party or strike it from the record, they will also disregard the motion asking to disregard it and an exhibit, "affidavit of Mike Zullo," attached to it.

The Supreme Court of AL has a duty to look only at the lower court case, what was filed there, Appellant’s brief, Appellee’s brief, and the reply by the Appellant. "Affidavit [of] Mike Zullo" is not a part of any of these documents and cannot be considered and will be disregarded by the court, just as an exhibit filed by the Alabama Democratic party will be disregarded, as those are new exhibits filed after the case was dismissed in the lower court. The Supreme court, which is reviewing the appeal, needs to rule based on the evidence that existed in front of the judge which reviewed the case in the lower court, to see if this judge made an error. I hope they rule for the plaintiffs/Appellants, however Mike Zullo’s affidavit will have no bearing on this decision. We do not know how the court will rule. I do not know how long does it take for this court to come up with a decision. (Can someone check how long does it take for the Supreme Court [of Alabama] to rule on average?) In the [U.S.] 9th Circuit it took the court nearly a year from the time it was filed to come to the decision. I filed my case in Judge Carter’s court on January 21, 2009. Decision by the 9th circuit came sometime in the end of 2011.

As I stated that even if the court rules in favor of the plaintiffs and reverses the decision of the lower court, still there is the same problem. Plaintiffs asked for the certified copy of the birth certificate. Look up what the Dem party of MS did in my case in MS: they provided the court with a certified copy of another copy of the same forgery. By the way in MS they made some changes to this forgery according to sworn affidavits. So, what do you do then? The obots will say: you wanted a certified copy, here you go, here is the certified copy. Obama will declare this as yet another victory. He will state: they asked for the certified copy, they got the certified copy, case closed. [But in the retrial before the lower Alabama court, the "affidavit of Mike Zullo" will be admitted, and it will discredit the counterfeit Certificate of Live Birth, which was not refuted in the Mississippi case.]

For that reason for the hundred and first time I am explaining that Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo need to do their job. Arpaio needs to file a criminal complaint in his county, where he is a sheriff, in Maricopa County, AZ; he needs to file a signed, stamped complaint with the District Attorney and Attorney General. He needs to go to the judge on duty and seek a subpoena for production of the original (wet ink) birth certificate, original Selective Service registration, and original SS-5 [Application for a Social Security Card] for the CT SSN [beginning with "042" which] Obama is using. Either Sheriff or District attorney can appear before a judge in HI and in DC and seek a reciprocal local subpoena based on a subpoena issued by the judge in the sister jurisdiction in AZ. When they have the local subpoenas, they need to bring the document experts and compare Obama’s originals (if they exist) to the other similar documents from the same time period, which are kept on file. With the reports of the experts the District Attorney or Attorney General of the state can file a criminal complaint in court. That’s what needs to be done now, immediately. Please, call Arpaio and tell him that he needs to do his job as a duly elected sheriff and file the proper criminal complaint with his District Attorney and Attorney General, not wait another half a year or a year for the Supreme court of Alabama to rule and in the best case scenario get another certified copy of the same forgery as they already filed in Taitz et al v Democratic Party of MS, Obama, Astrue, Onaka (this case is still going on, no decision from the District court yet). Tell Arpaio to file the criminal complaint ASAP!!!

["Justice delayed is justice denied."]
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[In 13-15627 James Grinols, et al v. Electoral College, et al “Clerk Order Filed” before the U.S. Appeals Court for the 9th Circuit,] It looks like judge England [in the lower court] did not issue the final order to dismiss the Grinols case, and there is no transcript from the clerk either. I am still waiting for the transcript. The 9th circuit states that they do not have jurisdiction as there is [no] final order to dismiss by judge England.


United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Notice of Docket Activity
The following transaction was entered on 05/15/2013 at 10:22:08 AM PDT and filed on 05/15/2013

Case Name:	James Grinols, et al v. Electoral College, et al
Case Number:	13-15627
Document(s):	Document(s)

Docket Text:
Filed clerk order (Deputy Clerk: SLJ): A review of the record suggests that this court may lack jurisdiction over the appeal because an order denying a motion for default judgment is not a final appealable order. See 28 U.S.C. § 1291; Bird v. Reese, 875 F.2d 256 (9th Cir. 1989) (order). Moreover, a review of the district court docket shows that a final order granting appellees’ motions to dismiss has not yet been filed. Within 21 days after the date of this order, appellants shall move for voluntary dismissal of the appeal or show cause why it should not be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. If appellants elect to show cause, a response may be filed within 10 days after service of the memorandum. If appellants do not comply with this order, the Clerk shall dismiss this appeal pursuant to Ninth Circuit Rule 42-1. Briefing is suspended pending further order of the court. [8629706] (WL)


[Stall, stall, stall . . . then, when you can stall no longer, delay with motions and continuances . . .]
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[May 15, 2013:] I can’t believe it, but I got a call back from the Department of Treasury, from the special agent who left a message for me. I was busy with a patient and could not get to the phone. We’ll see what happens next. I hope they will actually move on the issue of Obama’s stolen SSN used in his tax returns. The agent wanted me to call back and provide more info. I called and left a message. I hope Holder is not bugging my phone.

[Later that day:] [I] talked to the special agent. The complaint was divided between offices, I forwarded to her additional information that she needed.
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[May 16, 2013:] I just got this from an analyst. We can track all the notations and changes in Obama’s [IRS] file [at the Treasury Dept.], and we can get the names of everyone who made the changes. [IF you can find a judge who will order release of the IRS files.] Same with my files and any other files.

"I have already sent him a message on how to track the IRS computer changes,
that will lead to who authorized it. Each change in a gov. computer system is
documented and authorized, each expenditure. Forget the asking of questions,
follow the paper trail/program trail."

Texas Republican Sen. Cruz eligible to be president should he decide to run

Published May 15, 2013
FoxNews.com

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but is qualified to become president should he mount a campaign in 2016 or beyond.

Cruz was born in Calgary, and his father is from Cuba. But the Republican senator’s mother is from the first state of Delaware, which appears to settle the issue.

Government officials didn’t exactly have to scramble for the information amid speculation the firebrand freshman senator was contemplating a presidential run and might be ineligible, considering similar questions about President Obama’s birth prompted the Congressional Research Office to compile a 2009 report to try to resolve the issue.

The 14-page report by the non-partisan office’s legislative attorney Jack Maskell essentially states the Constitution sets out three eligibility requirements to be president: one must be at least 35, a resident within the United States for 14 years and a “natural born citizen.”

The report states "the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including … those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements."

However, Maskell points out in an expanded, Nov. 2011 memorandum “there is no Supreme Court case which has ruled specifically on the presidential eligibility requirements, although several cases have addressed the term ‘natural born’ citizen. And this clause has been the subject of several legal and historical treatises over the years, as well as more recent litigation.”

Cruz has excited the Republican Party’s conservative base during his first five months in the Senate – while annoying moderates – by opposing everything from Obama Cabinet nominations to the bipartisan Senate immigration bill.

The 42-year-old Cruz has yet to publicly announce his intentions, but in front of a microphone he talks mostly about big-picture national issues, with most of the presidential buzz coming from supporters.

“I’ve been in 25 cities in the last few months, all I have to do is mention Ted Cruz’s name, and they stand up and cheer,” former South Carolina Republican Sen. Jim DeMint said at a state party dinner earlier this month. “They’re hungry for someone who’s not afraid, willing to stand up and trying to change the status quo.”

Obama’s eligibility was questioned by a group of people labeled birthers because they though his Hawaii birth certificate was fake and that he was born in Kenya. His mother was from Kansas and his father from Kenya.

Others have faced similar questions including Obama’s 2008 presidential opponent Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain.

McCain was born on a military installation in the Panama Canal Zone where his mother and Navel officer father were stationed. And George Romney, father of 2012
Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, was born in Mexico but still ran for president in 1968.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...her-questions/

Originally Posted by FoxNews.com

McCain was born on a military installation in the Panama Canal Zone where his mother and Navel officer father were stationed. And George Romney, father of 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, was born in Mexico but still ran for president in 1968.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...her-questions/

I tried to count the number of errors in the above FoxNEWS report, but I ran out of fingers.

"Navel officer father"?!? "Navel" may be appropriate in such matters of birth, birthplace, and birth parents.

The script writers and director of "NCIS" may be passing along a current military point of view in WDC (at 32 minutes into the show here)..

Originally Posted by NCIS TV script

former NCIS Director Tom Morrow: "The CIA took out [Iranian ambassador Arash] Kasmi that night so that {Israeli operative Ilan] Bodnar would end up being the fall guy. Iran and Israel could duke it out while we focused on the real threat. We're all so *** worried about Iran and... North Korea when the real threat is here, on home soil."

present NCIS Director Leon Vance: "It's a shell game, isn't it? Keep people distracted."

Morrow: "Leon, you see why I wanted you to keep your distance?"

Vance: "The attorney, Parsons, did he know anything about this when he started this investigation?"

Morrow: "Nothing. He saw an opportunity, just like we did."

Vance: "What about the [beheaded and radiocatively contaminated] Navy SEAL, Chad McBride?"

Morrow: "That's not good, Leon."

The season finale ends four months in the future with NCIS Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs, a former Navy sniper, appearing to assassinate Senior FBI Agent Tobias Fornell (or more likely, the VIP whom Fornell is guarding). But we will have to wait four months for the fall TV season to find out whether military intelligence is taking the war to the FBI and the CIA of a rogue U.S. government - on TV, anyway. The TV plot may be yet to be determined, to fit real facts on the ground... or it may be just a paranoid geopolitical fantasy, all tongue-in-cheek .

I think you overlooked the point of the article.

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but is qualified to become president should he mount a campaign in 2016 or beyond.

Cruz was born in Calgary, and his father is from Cuba. But the Republican senator’s mother is from the first state of Delaware, which appears to settle the issue.

"No person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President;"
- the Constitution of the United States, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5.

Benjamin Franklin recorded that The Law of Nations by Emerich de Vattel was present at all meetings where the Framers hammered out the wording of the U.S. Constitution. The Law of Nations was the reference book on the table at the signing of the Constitution. De Vattel did not create the "natural born Citizen" concept; he merely codified the universally or most generally understood and accepted international law at that time. He wrote (in French, validly paraphrased here):

"A natural born Citizen is

one born in the country
to parents who are citizens."

(N.B.: "parents" is plural, meaning the biological father and mother, not adopting parents, not the mother and her legal husband, and plainly, not one citizen parent and an alien parent. The phrase, "natural born Citizen," is a term of art from international law, a legal idiom for a specific condition or thing, not just words to be subjectively defined out of context. However, as I understand the English language, the pronoun "one" refers back to the only previous noun, "Citizen", in which case the definition expands to, "a citizen born in the country to parents who are citizens.")

This definition was:

• the norm in western civilization dating back to Plato and Herodotus (4th & 5th c. BC);
  
  
• used in correspondence among the Framers of the Constitution;
  
  
• quoted nearly verbatim in at least eleven U.S. Supreme Court cases: The Venus, Shanks v. DuPont, Dred Scott v. Sandford, The Slaughterhouse Cases, Minor v. Happersett (pp.167-168 ), Elk v. Wilkins, Ex parte Reynolds, U.S. v. Ward, Wong Kim Ark ¹, Keith v. U.S., and Perkins v. Elg, and never contradicted in any U.S. Supreme Court decision (although the lower courts were confused and conflicted, as in the Ankeny decision by the Indiana Supreme Court);
  
  
• quoted by U.S. Rep. John A. Bingham and U.S. Sen. Jacob Howard, authors of Amendment XIV, which concerns only citizens and never mentions natural born Citizens; and
  
  
• characteristic of every duly-elected President born since the U.S. Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788. Chester A. Arthur was not elected President, but he became President by succession upon the death of President James Garfield. Chester A. Arthur was 17 years old before his Canadian father become a U.S. citizen, a fact which he even burned his Presidential papers to hide. That disqualification for the offices of President and Vice President was kept secret throughout his one partial term as President (1881-1885) and until it was discovered by Atty. Leo Donofrio's researchers - in 2008!
  

On the other hand, Mr. Obama was not only born in Kenya ² , but his mother was not yet 19, the age required in 1961 to confer her U.S. citizenship to her foreign-born child ³ . His father of record was a Kenyan, a British Protected Subject, which status passed to all his offspring. How could a newborn Barack Obama II, whose birth status was governed by British law, be a natural born Citizen of the United States? He was not even a U.S. citizen at birth. UNLESS he has been NATURALIZED, (which is mutually exclusive of "natural born" and which would exclude him from being a natural born Citizen,)
HE IS NOT NOW, NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN, A U.S. CITIZEN!!!

HE WAS BORN A BRIT, HE'S ALWAYS A BRIT, AND HE'S NOT LEGIT!

Since mid-2008, laws in the U.S. have encountered an explosion of non-compliance, even open defiance. Checks and balances have ceased to function effectively. By means of the Dept. of Justice, the U.S. Attorneys, and AG Eric Holder in particular, the executive branch has asserted dominance over the legislative and judicial branches of the federal government... even over state governments on issues which Amendment X reserves to the people and to the states. In an act of sedition, by the overthrow of government according to the Constitution of the U.S., Mr. Obama and his executive branch minions have lawlessly annulled the Constitution, Art. ii, § 1, ¶ 5, the "natural born Citizen" clause, without a constitutional amendment passed by a two-thirds vote in each chamber of Congress, without ratification by three-fourths of the states, without even his own signature.

http://tinyurl.com/mapuzzo
https://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-.html
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1216821
http://theconservativemonster.com/20...ity-trial.aspx
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

¹ On pp. 679-680 of Wong Kim Ark, after many pages of discussing the concept of "natural-born subject" as used in the Common Law and by the Crown, from which Americans fought the Revolutionary War to free themselves, Justice Gray quoted Chief Justice Waite's definition of nbC from Minor as his final word on the subject of "natural-born citizen."

² As Maricopa Co. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's "Cold Case Posse" report and three expert witnesses on document forgery attested, the much-publicized Hawaii COLB is counterfeit - a forgery. The more detailed Certificate, posted in response at whitehouse.gov on April 27, 2011, is also a forgery, as shown in the subsequent "Mike Zullo Report." At first, before being repeatedly corrected, the counterfeit short form COLB had at least 12 errors, such as the missing embossed seal, which proved it was not genuine. For example, "FATHER'S RACE: AFRICAN" was not then, and is not now, one of the specified racial categories for a U.S. Standard Birth Certificate. In 1961, "African-American" was unheard of; the corresponding official category for race was "Negro" or "negroid"; "mulatto" or "colored" was also accepted in 1961. "African" refers not to a race, but to a native or resident of the continent of Africa.

This .jpg image of a COLB is purportedly a short-form computer-generated abstract, printed from data on the Hawaii DOH computer database. It is only presented as .jpg images on the internet, which are easily altered with photo-editing software or created on websites which generate fake documents. When first posted at DailyKOS on June 12, 2008, the .jpg image lacked an embossed seal and had only the upper paper fold, even though every Hawaii COLB is automatically embossed with the Hawaii DOH seal and double-folded by machine before leaving the office. That image has evolved through a number of revisions as critics have pointed out its flaws and errors.

The birth announcement in two Honolulu newspapers did not disclose Barack Obama II's place of birth, or even his name. However, a $5000 bribe secured a copy of the long-form birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama II from Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, complete with signatures appropriate for 1961. The document appears to be legitimate, with no disqualifying flaw, although the courts have steadfastly refused to officially examine it.



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3xyJDLYT0B...obama+colb.jpg

33 million Ugandans and 40 million Kenyans, including Kenya's Ambassador to the U.S., Peter Ogego, and some Members of Kenya's Parliament, have almost unanimously acclaimed Barack Obama II as the "Kenyan-born" U.S. President. (I say "almost" to prevent the anticipated counter with names of some individuals in Kenya who carry water for the impostor and cover for the usurpation: for example, the Odinga wing of the Kenyan government.)

Mama Sarah Onyango Obama said, in Swahili, repeating herself to eliminate any misunderstanding, that her step-grandson, Barack Obama II, was born in Mombasa, Kenya. She also said, "Barack ñate dhalani," that is, "Barack born of village," referring to her step-grandson - not Barrack, Snr. - and her home village of Kogelo, near Kisumu. Ever since, Kenya's Prime Minister Raila Odinga, Barack Obama II's cousin, has kept Mama Sarah under armed guard 24/7, off limits to western reporters. Mama Sarah spoke to Labor & Delivery caregivers and others at a UN conference on orphans, "Even the U.S. President passed through my hands." At that time, she had never been outside of Kenya.

Likewise in Honolulu, Sen. Obama would not allow reporters or investigators to speak to his maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, to the day of her death... the day before the 2008 elections.

When it comes to their grands, grandmothers (almost) never lie. Politicians do.

³ The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as in effect in 1961 and until 1984, read:

Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: . . .

(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...

As a professional investigator hired by Western Journalism explained, people can debate the meaning of the term “natural born citizen” as long as they like, but this much is clear: in 1961, if 18 year old Anna Dunham Obama gave birth on foreign soil to a child whose father was not an American citizen, then the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as it was in effect in 1961, denied her child any right to American citizenship of any kind. Therefore, if at the time of his birth Barack Obama II was ineligible for American citizenship of any kind, he cannot be a “natural-born citizen” of the U.S.. Kenya, maybe, but not the U.S..

Mr. Obama is not a "natural-born Citizen" of the U.S. even though the Immigration and Nationality Act was revised 23 years after he was born. Even if U.S. law was changed to retroactively grant citizenship (but not “natural born Citizen" status) to some who had been denied citizenship at birth, a person who was not a U.S. citizen from birth cannot somehow "become" a natural born citizen of the U.S. later. No statute can retroactively make a Kenyan British Protected Subject into a not-by-statute "natural born Citizen" of the U.S..

NO ONE CAN BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
WHO IS NOT A CITIZEN WHEN HE IS BORN.

I think you still missed the point of the article above. It is about Ted Cruz not Obama.

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but is qualified to become president should he mount a campaign in 2016 or beyond.

Cruz was born in Calgary, and his father is from Cuba. But the Republican senator’s mother is from the first state of Delaware, which appears to settle the issue.

June 3. Mark your calendars.