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01-27-2009, 02:39 AM #711
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Originally Posted by armbruster512We see so many tribes overrun and undermined
While their invaders dream of lands they've left behind
Better people...better food...and better beer...
Why move around the world when Eden was so near?
-Neil Peart from the song Territories&
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01-27-2009, 07:44 AM #712
armbruster512 - Good responses all. Thanks, Marine.
Another area that Obama is using to dilute the power and meaning of the Constitution is to extend US Constitutional protections to foreign Islamic terrorists, the enemy. This has to stop.
I really am waiting and watching to see something, one thing, that Obama is doing, or will do, to protect and defend the Constitution. So far, every action I have seen him perform has cheapened, ignored, or violated the Constitution.
This isn't why someone becomes a Constitutional attorney - to learn how to destroy our country's most important document and everything that it represents.
Or maybe it is the right thing to do if you are an enemy of the United States.In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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01-27-2009, 07:56 AM #713Originally Posted by Dixie
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Speaking of gun sights, acting on a lark yesterday, I checked one of our local sports outlets here in Maine and inquired about recent gun sales. Very large increase of gun sales in recent months. And this is Maine - the People's Republic of Maine - a Democratic stronghold.
I think people may be starting to 'get it' about Obama.
About time. We are such slow learners...In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot. -- Mark Twain
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01-27-2009, 09:21 AM #714Originally Posted by vortex
However, two wrongs to not make a right. No reasonably sane person would spend millions to avoid showing they are natural born unless they simply are not. That leaves us with one or two options, either Obama is an illegitimate president who does not meet constitutional qualifications or he is insane. I have not noticed any other signs of insanity, so it must be the former.
IF there is a conspiracy theorist out there, it would be the person who believes that Two blood relatives are making up his birth in Kenya, one who says they have photos, The government of Kenya is speaking genetically when they call him a kenyan, the monument of his birthplace is really he fathers birthplace, the German and French versions of the CIA are mis-informed. Yup, his being born in Kenya is nothing more than an international conspiracy that Obama refuses to put to rest by producing a long form birh cert. and giving it to a neutral party for examination. The fact that a Barry Soetoro attended college on foreign student scholarships at the same schools at the same time as Obama is mere coincidence. Naturally, the schools can not comment about whether or not Obama even attended, his records have been sealed. There is more evidence on this than most grand juries are given before indicting anybody, yet no court has looked at ANY OF THE EVIDENCE. They just dismiss it with either no comment or because of lack of standing.
Those who blindly follow, without even discussing the emperors clothes, do not deserve our constitution.Proud American and wife of a wonderful LEGAL immigrant from Ireland.
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01-27-2009, 02:44 PM #715Originally Posted by cayla99
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01-27-2009, 03:02 PM #716
Kerchner v. Obama was filed last week in federal court for NJ by an attorney based in Jamesburg, NJ. It also names Members of Congress as defendants. It appears to rely on known facts (not speculation about Kenya) and use the line of legal reasoning developed by Donofrio. I.e., that NBC is a legal "term of art" with known definitional source (deVattel) and should be construed apart from the "statutory citizenships" which find their source in the 14th Amendment and which are therefore amenable to legislative changes. Constitutional "terms of art" would not be alterable except by the extraordinary means of the Amendment process.
The attorney for the plaintiffs is Mario Apuzzo who appears to have had some posts in local GOP and whose lawsuit is confined to challenge of Obama. For those who posit that McCain was "in the clear" on the NBC issue, my view would differ. He can be shown to have tried to dupe people into believing be was born "on a military base" using a complicit Washington Post reporter who claimed to have been shown an original BC, and these false reports were published in the WaPo's so-called "Fact Checker" column in April and May of 2008. An authentic BC was obtained on June 8th from Panama which "proved the lies" and MSM once again failed to fully explore the ramifications; instead pointing to S.R.511 as a legal basis of eligibility when it was nothing of the sort. There is a long legislative history of NBC attempted alterations with Amendment attempts (2000 and 2003) then bills from 2005 and early 2008 (February) which died in committees without hearings and probably because they tried to do "that which is impermissible" thru mere legislation. The 2005 measure attempted to use "statutory citizenship" provisions as interchangeable with NBC. One finds the same crippled argument now being trotted out by those who support the Obama presidency as legitimate IF he was born in Hawaii. If anything, the fact that supposedly "clarifying" or "amendatory" legislation was intro'd at all in 2005 would undercut that basis of argumentation as illogical.
Whether the new suit falls on grounds of standing remains to be seen. There are several people who claim that in one-to-one talks with Representatives they have been informed that the ineligibility problem is known and that no one stood up with objections due to varying reasons which ranged from civil unrest to political expedience and enhanced odds that poor POTUS performance over the next 2 years would prompt recapture of legislative branch in 2010.
Since the Bush terms' end results have convinced me that we have a corrupt entrenchment of duopoly powers in the two major parties, I'm not surprised to learn about excuses. The GOP has suffered massive defections of conservatives for good reason (it deserved to lose them as pork became a way of life). The Democrats will see their own detections as being "anti-Bush" proves to be lacking enough glue to keep all their factions jumping together, just because Obama says "how high."
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01-27-2009, 04:47 PM #717Whether the new suit falls on grounds of standing remains to be seen. There are several people who claim that in one-to-one talks with Representatives they have been informed that the ineligibility problem is known and that no one stood up with objections due to varying reasons which ranged from civil unrest to political expedience and enhanced odds that poor POTUS performance over the next 2 years would prompt recapture of legislative branch in 2010Proud American and wife of a wonderful LEGAL immigrant from Ireland.
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01-27-2009, 07:46 PM #718
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It's because where there's smoke, there's fire.
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Originally Posted by ALIPAC, writing to WhatMattersMostLast edited by MinutemanCDC_SC; 07-12-2014 at 04:35 AM.
One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow WE may wake up as illegals.
The last word: illegal aliens are ILLEGAL!
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01-27-2009, 11:09 PM #719
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For anyone that purports that I am being racist, let me post my previous wisdom:
Got to agree with jshhmr. I am continually surprised that this thread keeps going, with nothing more than "what if" arguments. As far as the Constitution, there has never been a president that has managed to shred it with more exuberance than GWB along with his gang.
Absolutely right, we are ignoring the basis of this site, while pro-illegals are planning marches and rallies throughout next month, and from many of the posts here, killing Americans on a daily basis, while sucking our economy dry.
When Obama does something really stupid like grant amnesty, we should pounce on him. But I think his only focus is the economy. All I can say is let's see what happens.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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