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    Ron Paul: "It Is Estimated That US Banks Have Over A Trillion Dollars Tied Up At-Risk With German And French Banks"

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/14/2011 14:58 -0500

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    European Debt Crisis Threatens the Dollar

    The global economic situation is becoming more dire every day. Approximately half of all US banks have significant exposure to the debt crisis in Europe. Much more dangerous for the US taxpayer is the dollar's status as reserve currency for the world, and the US Federal Reserve's status as the lender of last resort. As we've learned in recent disclosures, this has not only benefitted companies like AIG, the auto industry and various US banks, but multiple foreign central banks as they have run into trouble. Nothing has been solved, however, by offering up the productivity of Americans as a sacrificial lamb. Greece is set to be the first domino to fall in the string of European economies at risk. Rather than learning from Greece's terrible example of an over-consuming public sector and drowning private sector, what is more likely from our politicians is an eventual bailout of European investors.

    The US has a relatively small exposure to overwhelmed Greek banks, but much larger economies in Europe are set to follow and that will have serious implications for US banks. Greece is technically small enough to bail out. Italy is not. Germany is not. France is not. It is estimated that US banks have over a trillion dollars tied up in at-risk German and French banks. Because the urge to paper over the debt with more credit is so strong, the collapse of the Euro is imminent. Will the Fed be held responsible if the Euro brings the US dollar down with it?

    The most disingenuous aspect of the narrative about the European sovereign debt crisis is that entire economies will collapse if more resources are not bilked from productive people around the world. This is untrue. Tough times are coming for the banks, to be sure, but free people always find a way back to prosperity if the politicians leave them alone. Communities within Greece are coming together and forming barter systems because they know the Euro is becoming unstable. Greeks are learning how to engage in commerce with each other, without the use of fiat currency controlled by central banks. In other words, they are rediscovering what money really is, and they are trading with each other in ways that cannot be controlled, manipulated, squandered, inflated away and generally ruined by corrupt bankers and the politicians that enable them. Farmers will still grow food, mechanics will still fix cars, people will still make things and exchange them with each other. No banker, no politician can stop that by destroying one medium of exchange. People will find or create another medium of exchange.

    Unfortunately when politicians try to monopolize currency with legal tender laws, the people find it harder and harder to survive the inflation and taxation to which they are subjected. Bankers should take their dreaded haircut rather than making innocent people pay for their mistakes. The losses should be limited and liquidated, rather than perpetuated and rewarded. This is the only way we can recover.

    Government debt is often considered rock solid because it is backed by a government's ability to forcibly extract interest payments out of the public. The public is increasingly unwilling to be bilked to make bankers whole. The riots and the violence in Greece should tell us something about the sustainability of this system.

    If we continue to bail out banks and bankers so they can continue to lose money, if we cavalierly put this burden on the taxpayer, it is all too predictable what will happen here.

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    Ron Paul Doesnt Exist

    November 18, 2011 by Bob Livingston


    The mainstream media insist Ron Paul doesnt really exist, but more Americans are finding him every day.

    Listening to the mainstream government propaganda arm corporatist media, one would think Ron Paul doesnt exist; or, if he does, theres no way hes going to be the Republican nominee.

    But something happened on the way to the media blackout party. Ron Pauls message is winning despite the concerted effort by the political and media elites to act like hes not really there. In Iowa, Paul is in a four-way tie with Herman Cain, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, according to a new Bloomberg News survey. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-1 ... cuses.html

    In New Hampshire, Paul is now second to Romney according to a Bloomberg News poll of that States voters. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-1 ... shire.html New Hampshire is essentially Romneys home State, and he holds a commanding lead there; but a win in Iowa and strong second place in the Granite State would cement Paul as the leading anti-Romney candidate.

    And according to Public Policy Polling, Paul now leads President Barack Obama 48 percent to 39 percent among the key independent voters. So that should put a damper on any arguments that Paul cant beat Obama. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... 115513.pdf

    The mainstream media insist Paul doesnt really exist, but more Americans are finding him every day despite the medias best efforts to sweep him aside, paint him as a kook or call him irrelevant. As one after another of the Chosen
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    The fix is in: Republicans make sure Obama serves second term

    November 19, 2011 by ppjg
    John Boering /PPJ contributor November 19, 2011



    I have concluded that we may as well dispense with the coming media circus surrounding the 2012 presidential election. Think of it: no phony “debates”, no stage shows, no mud slinging ads, no having to hear the same lame lies and statements as one candidate after another tries to convince us that he/she will reverse the terrible destructive course the US is on. We don’t need to subject ourselves to any of it; the fix is in and Obama wins hands down, no competition……or at least none that the Republican party will acknowledge. Why upset the status quo?
    How do I know this?

    The Republican party could easily sweep the elections and retake the White House simply by running Ron Paul (R) TX. Poll after poll shows Paul garnering 25% with GOP voters and as much as 70% or more with the public from BOTH sides of the political spectrum.

    During the GOP debate, CBS twice removed a candidate poll because the support for Ron Paul showed that he was far and away the leading choice for Republican voters and that was not supposed to happen!



    So why wouldn’t the Republican party run what is clearly a winning candidate? Hmmmmm. Because Ron Paul would put an end to much of the power Republicans and Democrats enjoy as a result of their own self-pandering, power grabbing and unconstitutional activity.

    Instead they are offering the sorriest collection of non-starters most likely ever assembled for a presidential race and are actively blacking out and refusing to acknowledge the popularity of Paul with the voters and what would be a sure-fire land-slide election.

    When I see politicians such as Newt (I just can’t keep my pants on)Gingrich being paraded out for the umpteenth time and treated as if he is actually a viable and desirable candidate for the country’s highest office, knowing this man’s proclivity for mistresses and philandering, for abusing position and power, I tend to think the Republican party has bottomed out.

    The remaining candidates are so lack luster, so unqualified, so entrenched in neo-conservative ideology that these pseudo debates are actually tedious to listen to. The canned questions with the corresponding canned and scripted answers are an insult to the viewers.

    As a last ditch effort to throw a clinker into the mix, Herman Cain appeared on the Republican bandwagon. For cripes sake, from where did the Republicans dig this man up? Every time Cain appears on camera, viewers begin cringing as they wait for the next fabulously idiotic statement emanating from this man’s mouth. Of course Faux News just loves him……that should be a tip off right there that something is wrong.

    So the question remains: Why would the Republican party shun a candidate who can obviously win against all comers, and instead support candidates they know have no chance of winning anything unless the electronic voting machines are rigged yet again?

    The Answer: Obama is their candidate also. As president he has been far more effective at dismantling the Constitution, passing oppressive legislation, issuing unlawful and unconstitutional Executive Orders, and expanding the death grip of the federal government on the states than Bush2 and his neo-conservative collection of psychopaths’, ideologues’, new world order, corporate pandering and UN suck-ups than any of these supposed candidates now offered for consideration.

    Make no mistake, the Republicans want Obama re-elected just as much as the Democrats do, after all there really is only one party in the District of Criminals and all concerned are quite happy with Obama. There is no way the Republican party is going to run a sure fire winner whose intentions are to reign in the federal corporation when they already have the perfect man in office who has done more to deconstruct the US than even Bush 2 did.

    I guess I just answered my own question.

    Why vote? With the exception of Ron Paul, they are all selling the same product; its just which sales pitch are you going to buy?

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    A veteran speak out about Iraq and Ron Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaDxiWj ... re=related



    Ron Paul This Is Why US Troops Support Him
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    Marine Speaks About Taliban, Blackwater, Ron Paul, Etc
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    The Most AMAZING video on the internet …2012 Election…RP revolution

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    Ron Paul On Face The Nation 11-20-11 - Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... f5eJlDupo#!



    Highlights Of Ron Paul In Nov 19 'Debate' - Vid
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1-PKek8 ... e=youtu.be



    Ron Paul Reality Check - Vid
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    Ron Paul - How To End The Fed, Pt 1 - Vid
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    Ron Paul - How To End The Fed, Pt 2 - Vid
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    The Military Industrial Complex In Five Minutes - Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... JTaw0GhY_s


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    Ron Paul "Faces The Nation" On September 11 And Other Key Topics

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/20/2011 13:37 -0500
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    Video at the link: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ron-paul- ... key-topics

    Rep. Ron Paul, who is statistically tied in first in the Iowa polls among the 2012 GOP presidential candidates, spoke with Bob Schieffer on how America's flawed policies contributed to 9/11, his stance on dealing with Iran, and the dismantling of key government institutions. Must watch, as unlike the other GOP candidates, Paul never peppers the audience (pardon the pun) with banal sound bites, moronic meanderings and pandering platitudes.

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    10 Certainties

    November 21, 2011 by Bob Livingston


    We should never underestimate the ignorance of the American voter.

    We live in strange times. Millions of Americans are out of work. Millions more live in fear that their job could go away at any time. The food stamp rolls are larger than they’ve ever been.
    An untold number are homeless, not because they choose to be or because they suffer from some mental disease or defect, but because they have lost everything in the second Great Depression. And many more are one missed paycheck or one delinquent mortgage payment away from finding themselves on the street.
    A growing number of young adults are now living with their parents or other relatives. Unable to find a decent job despite possessing a college diploma, tens of thousands leave college mired under an irrepressible and unmanageable debt burden.
    Protests that began in the Middle East earlier this year over rising food prices and food shortages evolved and spread throughout the region and now find themselves smack in the middle of America in the form of the Occupy movement.
    Our country suffers from an amoral rot. Secular humanism, nontheism, atheism and other humanist philosophies are attempting to elevate the creature above the Creator. As such, a belief that the end justifies the means is consuming society. It’s become, “Anything goes.”


    Where America is headed is anybody’s guess. I think we are in store for a complete collapse of the system, because there are 10 things that are certain.
    We should never underestimate the ignorance of the American voter.
    After all, they elected Barack Hussein Obama, a man who openly campaigned on an anti-American socialist philosophy and had the least experience, fewest qualifications, thinnest resume and shadiest past of any serious Presidential candidate in United States history.
    Of course, the alternative was really no alternative. That’s the way the elites wanted it. And now the global elites and their corporate media propaganda machine are deciding again who will be elected — and the American voter, with nary a whimper, follows blindly along, accepting that a two-horse race between Mitt Romney and some neocon anti-Romney are the only choices we have.
    The trouble has been in selecting the anti-Romney. So far, Michele Bachmann’s star fizzled like a New Year’s sparkler, Rick Perry fell off his horse after he insulted most Republicans over illegal immigration in one debate and stepped on his tongue in two others, Herman Cain’s stock has begun dropping faster than Sharon Bialek’s perky mood in the back of a limo — as much because of Cain’s incoherent answers to tough questions as over the dubious sexual harassment claims — and now Newt Gingrich is the rising neocon star.
    The same Newt Gingrich who twice (at least) cheated on his wives (he’s had three) while they suffered from serious illnesses. The same globalist, Council on Foreign Relations member, pagan ritual Bohemian Grove attendee Newt Gingrich who sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi in an advertisement hawking the threat of man-caused global warming, who has a penchant for cozying up with people like race huckster Al Sharpton when it’s politically expedient and then denouncing them later, who devised the original government-growing Contract with America, who endorsed RINO (later to turn Democrat) Dede Scozzafava over a Tea Party candidate, who called Congressman Paul Ryan’s deficit reduction plan right-wing social engineering, who said the Tea Party will be the “militant wing” of the GOP, and who we now know looted American taxpayers of between $1.6 million and $1.8 million as a “historian” for the Freddie Mac corporatist slush fund (although Gingrich remembers only about $300,000 of it). And this is the same Newt Gingrich who once called for a Federal mandate to purchase health insurance, endorsed “cap-and-trade” legislation, said he would have voted for TARP and promoted Bush’s prescription drug bill. He also continues to support ethanol subsidies and is pro-amnesty for illegals.
    That Gingrich, with all his baggage and pompousness, can be an attractive candidate to people who call themselves conservatives, tells you all you need to know of the ignorance of the average voter. And this ignorance continues because…
    There is a concerted effort by the establishment to defeat Ron Paul.
    It’s gotten so overt that even the corporatist media propaganda machine is chastising its own members over their treatment of Paul. It all seemed to come to a head after the Nov. 12 CBS News debate in which Paul got 89 seconds to speak during the only televised hour of the debate.
    In addition to the snubs, which have left Paul with the least speaking time in all the debates — even much less than Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum, who are barely registering in the polls — networks have a habit of taking down or dismissing as irrelevant any polls that show Paul doing well. Despite it all, Paul is in a virtual tie for first in Iowa and is a strong second in New Hampshire, a State that Romney will probably carry hands-down. And Paul is polling the best of all Republican candidates against Obama with independent voters.
    The media and political elites fear Paul because he has not been corrupted and will expose that…
    Government is a criminal enterprise.
    News this week that members of Congress have been involved in unethical, if not illegal, insider trading based on information they possess before anyone else or on laws they know are about to be considered is just one more straw to put in the camel’s pack. How many more can that poor camel hold before the American people really wake up?
    We have long told you here about the crony capitalism and fascism that infest the capital. And while Congress, former Congressional staffers and big businesses dip into the money-printing till and pass dollars around like the Monopoly® money it is, bureaucrats, paper pushers, statist judges, on-the-take regulators, Department of Justice thugs, Congress and an increasingly-militarized Federal government create dozens of new statutes and regulations because…
    The Federal Government wants to make everyone a criminal.
    Just last week, it was announced that the Department of Justice wanted to criminalize lying to a website. So, if you violate the “Terms of Use” policy by fibbing on online dating sites, social networks, etc., you could become a felon. The government wants to treat those terms as contracts.
    In his book, Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent, Harvey A. Silverglate writes that “federal prosecutors are abusing their power by using the criminal law to prosecute law abiding citizens…” They are seizing illegal power by twisting marginal and highly questionable interpretations of criminal law.
    We are in danger of becoming a society in which prosecutors alone become judges, juries and executioners because the threat of high sentences makes it too costly for even innocent people to resist the prosecutorial pressure. The pattern is to intimidate all criminally charged defendants into pleading guilty to “reduced” charges rather than risk going to trial with the threat of draconian sentences in the implied event of conviction. And remember, government prosecutors have unlimited funds to use to pay an unlimited number of lawyers and investigators to spend an unlimited number of hours to snoop, dig and scratch around in every aspect of a citizen’s business, thanks to the USA Patriot Act.
    No trial? This means that the Federal prosecuting attorney is the judge and the jury.
    We now have a huge volume of Federal criminal laws which are broad and impossibly vague, and Silverglate believes it’s possible the average citizen unknowingly violates at least three of them every day. They have become dangerously disconnected from English common law tradition. And since most Federal judges are selected from a pool of former Federal prosecutors, it’s rare if ever that a judge rules against the government’s case.
    Liberty-loving Americans are now considered the enemy of the State. The Department of Homeland Security and other government agencies have issued memos and directives describing who they see as potential “domestic” terrorists. They include military veterans — both retired and those returning from overseas engagements — Tea Party supporters, Ron Paul supporters, 2nd Amendment supporters, 10th Amendment supporters, people who display American flags, people with Gadsden Flag bumper stickers, anti-Obamacare protesters and anyone who advocates for smaller government.
    But this is only part of our government’s war on us because…

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    Government creates crises and uses them to steal liberty and transfer wealth.

    In the days following the 9/11 attacks, President George W. Bush and Congress acted quickly to pass overarching laws that allowed increased surveillance of Americans. The meme was that law enforcement agencies needed increased “power” to snoop, spy, eavesdrop and invade in order to identify terrorists. With the passage of the law, government has almost carte blanch to go anywhere, look at anything and listen to whatever it wants on any and all conversations, transactions and correspondence Americans have. And Americans can no longer travel without subjecting themselves to radiation-emitting scans or humiliating searches.

    Meanwhile, the FBI infiltrates mosques, Muslim communities, militias and other “subversive” groups looking for ignorant patsies they can turn into potential terrorists. They then provide them with dummy bombs or weapons and ridiculously ineffective plans for terror plots and wait for them to try to pull them off.

    These “terror plots” give the government more excuses to intrude on civil liberties.

    With the bursting of the housing bubble (created by former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan’s easy-money policies), Bush, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke went on television claiming the sky was falling and predicted the end of the world if “government” didn’t bail out Goldman Sachs, AIG and their other corporatist buddies in the financial sector. We got the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), and Bush claimed he had “abandoned free-market principals to save the free-market system.”

    What really happened is that trillions of dollars were transferred from hard-working Americans to the coffers of big business and big finance, both in the United States and abroad. Of course, there is nothing new about this. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt used the Great Depression to reward his labor friends and grow government’s power under the interstate commerce clause. And while Americans starved, thousands of farmers were forced by the government to destroy crops and livestock.

    After the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, Roosevelt began issuing executive orders by the handfuls, locking up Americans without cause and stealing liberty, wealth and prosperity from citizens in the process.

    But this is not the history that people are taught. And schoolchildren certainly never hear in school that…

    The Federal Reserve is looting your bank account right out from under your nose.

    Few people have a real understanding of just how insidious the Federal Reserve and inflation are. But no matter where you hide your money, through its money-printing, the Federal Reserve steals a portion every day.

    That’s because every dollar printed reduces the value of those you hold. Think of it like pouring water into a glass of milk. The more water that is poured in, the less milk remains. Pretty soon, there is no milk left.

    Right now the official rate of inflation is about 3.5 percent. It is, in fact, much higher. But the highest-paying interest rate on a certificate of deposit is about 1.1 percent. You do the math.

    Face it. The system is stacked against you because…

    Financial interests control the world.

    Of course, that has long been the ultimate goal of the elites. They have been, throughout history, ruthless and unwavering in their efforts. They are the true 1 percent.

    I and others have long warned about the growing power of the financial elites. We write often about their growing power and the increased fascism of the system. Now a group of researchers at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology have uncovered the 147 “super-entities” that control the world’s wealth, according to an article in New Scientist.
    Here’s a list of the Top 25. See any familiar names?

    1. Barclays PLC
    2. Capital Group Companies Inc.
    3. FMR Corp.
    4. AXA
    5. State Street Corporation
    6.JP Morgan Chase & Co.
    7. Legal & General Group PLC
    8. Vanguard Group Inc.
    9. UBS AG
    10. Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc.
    11. Wellington Management Company LLP
    12. Deutsche Bank AG
    13. Franklin Resources Inc.
    14. Credit Suisse Group
    15. Walton Enterprises LLC
    16. The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
    17. Natixis
    18. Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
    19. T. Rowe Price Group Inc.
    20. Legg Mason Inc.
    21. Morgan Stanley
    22. Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc.
    23. Northern Trust Corporation
    24. Société Générale
    25. Bank of America Corporation

    “From Orbis 2007, a database listing 37 million companies and investors worldwide, they pulled out all 43,060 TNCs (transnational corporations) and the share ownerships linking them. Then they constructed a model of which companies controlled others through shareholding networks, coupled with each company’s operating revenues, to map the structure of economic power,” according to the report.

    “When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a ‘super-entity’ of 147 even more tightly knit companies—all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity—that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. ‘In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network,’ says [researcher James] Glattfelder.”

    Now you see why the buddy system operated so well when the Fed began bailing out the “too big to fails.” And the big corporations got there with the help of their corporatist partners in crime in Congress.

    The truth of the matter is…

    We are no longer operating under Constitutional government, but people are completely unaware.

    The government-controlled non-education system, corporate-controlled media and government propaganda machine have succeeded in producing an uneducated generation that is so ignorant it doesn’t even know it’s ignorant and, therefore, can’t do anything about it.

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    Rather than teach history, government indoctrination centers focus on less-significant, politically correct characters — in order to prop up the self-esteem of the “underpriviledged” and “underrepresented” — and singular, historically insignificant events. One specific example I know of is of a middle-school child whose teacher spent three class days on the U.S. Olympic hockey team’s upset of the Soviets in 1980, and about 15 minutes of class time on World War II.Of course, a discussion of the founding of our country, the conditions that sparked the revolution, the Federalist Papers, the Constitution that resulted from their discussions, or the greatness of the Founding Fathers received little or no attention in that class. I’m afraid it’s the rule rather than the exception.

    Ask someone on the street about the Constitution and you’ll probably get some lame answer about “separation of church and state” or “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” like Herman Cain gave in one of his speeches.

    And rather than work to gain knowledge of the country and its politics, most would rather devote their time to voting for the next “Idol” and debating who should get voted off the island and whether college football should have a playoff. These and other unimportant events completely consume the general public.

    So when government does pass new unConstitutional laws, no one is the wiser. Most people are concerned about — if they think about it all — “what’s in it for me?” and “how much ‘free’ money do I get?” Many are still waiting for the “free money” from “Obama’s stash.” Unfortunately, because they weren’t large corporate donors, they got nothing but disdain from the teleprompter in chief.

    Congress, aided by a willing Judiciary and President, long ago left any pretense of governing according to the Constitution. When they’re sworn in, they pledge their fealty to it, then put it away never to be read again.

    Meanwhile, the two-party system of governance entraps people who do pay a modicum of attention into a false left/right paradigm and the corporate-controlled government propaganda machine pushes the false notion that there is a difference between the parties. But Democrat or Republican is irrelevant. It’s all class warfare, dissembling Kabuki Theater.

    To demonstrate how far we’ve traversed from the Constitution, the government can now prevent you from drinking raw milk, can force you to have your children vaccinated for non-existent maladies, can search you without cause, can arrest you for videotaping in public, can murder American citizens at will and can twist and turn obscure statutes and use them to incarcerate and fine you.

    The Federal agencies designed to protect us from bad foods and bad drugs instead promote bad foods and bad drugs and make natural foods and supplements illegal or difficult to obtain. That keeps Americans fat and happy and stupid.

    In addition to loving the increased power they get by ignoring the Constitution, it’s a fact that…

    Politicians love war and an attack on Iran is inevitable.

    War is yet another way for government to steal the liberty of the American people, and war with Iran is inevitable, Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize notwithstanding. The drumbeats for war are reaching a crescendo, and the same rhetoric used in the run-up to the Iraq war is being replayed in the run-up to Iran.

    The frightening thing is that the anti-war Democrats have gone silent. Some protested loud and long over Bush’s wars, but Obama has been given a pass — by Congress and the American people — to invade any country he chooses over the most dubious of reasons. And it seems from the cheering the neocon warmongers get during the Republican debates, Americans have grown to love war as much as the politicians.

    Sources tell me U.S. Marines will be on the ground in Libya in January, news reports indicate a Marine contingent will soon land in Australia, and Obama recently sent “military advisers” to Central Africa. The French just recalled their diplomat from Syria, an indication a Libya-style attack is in the offing. This is all proof that…
    The American government is seeking world conquest.

    The globalists and One World Government crowd will not rest until all the world is in subjection. Moammar Gadhafi was taken down because he wouldn’t play in the OWG pool, and Syria and Iran are next. The Marines going to Australia will be a foil to China. Then, who knows?

    http://www.personalliberty.com/conse...0-certainties/
    Last edited by AirborneSapper7; 12-29-2011 at 01:14 PM.
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