Thread: Ron Paul on the Issues

Illinois GOP: Paul Wins Presidential Straw Poll

Sunday, 06 Nov 2011 06:44 AM

PALATINE, Ill. The Illinois Republican Party says Ron Paul has won a statewide straw poll that sought to determine voters' unofficial preference for the GOP presidential nomination.

The Texas congressman won Saturday's poll with 52 percent of the vote. Paul won in both online and total votes.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney carried Illinois' in-person voting with 35 percent.

The Illinois straw poll at more than 3,600 votes surpassed such large states as Ohio, Florida, and California that also had straw polls this year.

Online voting started Oct. 29 and paper balloting went on throughout the day Saturday at about two dozen Illinois sites.

Any Illinois voter could cast a ballot in the GOP straw poll with a $5 contribution to the state party. The Illinois primary is March 20.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Repu ... /id/416998

Lipsky: Obama Making Same Mistakes That Led to Great Depression

Wednesday, 26 Oct 2011 02:20 PM
By Forrest Jones and Kathleen Walter
Video at the page link:

The United States is in danger of a long recession because President Barack Obama is making the same errors as those that led to the Great Depression, journalist and author Seth Lipsky told Newsmax.TV in an exclusive interview.

Lipsky, founder and editor of the New York Sun and a former Wall Street Journal reporter, also says the country needs to reform its monetary system and return to constitutional money based on gold and silver.

He explains that fiscal and monetary policies have seriously weakened the dollar over the last decade, and now it's up to Congress to do push through meaningful reforms to stop it.

In fact, it's a constitutional requirement for Congress to act, said Lipsky, who wrote many of the New York Sun editorials featured in the new book 'It Shines for All': The Gold Standard Editorials of The New York Sun.

Video at the page link:

The founding fathers named the U.S. currency after a coin called a Spanish-milled dollar, which represented 371.25 grains of pure silver, and put protecting its value in the hands of Congress.

"They meant the dollar to be a measure of value and in fact they gave Congress the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof in the same sentence of the Constitution in which they gave Congress the power to fix the standards of weights and measures," Lipsky told Newsmax.TV.

"What the reform movement that we have been covering in The Sun wants Congress to do is to step up to that Constitutional responsibility to establish a proper value to the dollar, and then we wouldn't have to worry about inflation and rising prices," he said.

"We would have to conduct the government's budgetary operations in a way that didn't result in a collapse in the value of our currency," said Lipsky.

Under President Obama, the White House has enacted stimulus measures to incentivize job creation while the Federal Reserve has flooded the economy with money and swollen its balance sheet in an effort to spur growth and hiring.

Critics say such policies are not helping the economy and point out that unemployment rates refuse to dip below their current levels of around 9.1 percent while inflation pressures and other harmful side effects of such loose policies are becoming more threatening.

Lipsky points out that bad economic policies aren't new: they threw the country into the Great Depression, including policies carried out by both Presidents Hoover and Roosevelt.

"The Smoot-Hawley Tariffs, protectionism, tax increases, attacking capital — meaning rich people — in the courts and through regulations, the creation of a climate of uncertainty ... these things added up to the create the Great Depression.

History may be out to repeat itself.

"It seems to me, just as a newspaper editor, that President Obama is going down the list as if he wanted to repeat these errors one by one," Lipsky says.

Whether the country is emerging from a recession or stuck in a depression is up to economists to determine, but either way, better days are far from just around the corner.

"Until correct policies are put in place, I think there's a danger of a very long recession and a very long period in which our economy just isn't creating the jobs and growing the way it should be. How one defines that, as whether it is a recession or a depression, is for the economist to do."

Until then, Congress might have to act.

"The last time we were able to conquer inflation, President Reagan did the budgetary part of it and the freeing up of the economy from regulation and high taxes, and Paul Volcker did the monetary part of it by targeting prices," Lipsky says, referring to former Fed Chairman Volcker.

"There is a sense now that Congress is going to have to step in and do a monetary reform itself, and several of the Republican candidates are now starting to talk about this, something the New York Sun has columned in half a dozen editorials in the last couple of years."

The right thing to do would include a return to a gold standard of some sort, which ties the value of the dollar to gold.

"We need to reform our monetary system and return to constitutional money based on gold and silver," Lipsky says.

Supporters say the gold standard would prevent the government from spending beyond its means and would do away with extremely loose monetary policies

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Lipsky- ... ode=D732-1

Ron Paul: Obama Presidency On The Verge Of Being A "Dictatorship"

VIDEO: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1265713624001/

Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) says President Obama's continued use of the executive order "brings the modern presidency dangerously close to an elective dictatorship."

"That is arrogant," Paul said of Obama frequently using the executive order function as of late. "It is flaunting the Constitution and the whole principle of how we’re supposed to operate. The idea they can just do this and take over the legislative function and brag about it -- and Congress does nothing and the courts do nothing about it, it's very, very bad."

"He's dictatorial, is what he is," Rep. Paul said before the end of the interview.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... rship.html

November 11th Veterans Day Money Bomb

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Current Total: 213.131

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Ron Paul Disqualified from Bill O'Reilly Straw Poll 11-7-11

votes The results and disqualification

Listen to the O'Reilly Ron Paul Interview http://www.dailypaul.com/186120/ron-pau ... he-message

Bill O'Rielly Just Knocked Over a Hornets Nest!!!!

All Ron Paul Responses At The CNBC Republican Debate

Airing Date Nov.09, 2011

All Ron Paul Responses At The CNBC Republican Debate.

VIDEO: http://youtu.be/jj0j1oY1Ypo

Guest Post: Be Honest CNBC - You Are Biased Against Ron Paul

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/10/2011 08:11 -0500
Comments: 306 / Reads: 17,485

Be Honest CNBC-You Are Biased Against Ron Paul


Those of us who have supported Ron Paul since his presidential run in 2008 (and some who supported him long before that) have come to expect an astonishing array of mainstream media tricks, lies, and censorship when it comes to the “journalistic” examination of the good doctor. This doesn’t mean, however, that we have ever or will ever come to ACCEPT this consistent trend of deception and disinformation as a forgone conclusion of our political lives. We will never throw up our hands and walk away from the mess the MSM has deliberately created, because that is exactly what they would like us to do; give up, shut up, go home, vote for Romney (an establishment crony with the creepy grin of a pedophile), and watch him lose to Obama (yet another establishment crony) in 2012.

With this stated up front, it was brought to my attention that CNBC was running a poll asking readers who they thought won the recent Republican Presidential Debates in Michigan. Now, as in many polls in 2008, the name “Ron Paul” has been rising to the top of the charts in 2011 despite all efforts by media lapdogs to dissuade the public from even considering such a candidate. CNBC did not fail to play its roll this time around either. Ron Paul won by a substantial margin, and of course, their response was to take the poll down! Here was the explanation given by CNBC Managing Editor and all around bottom feeder, Allen Wastler:
Gamed Poll...So We Took It Down

We had a poll up from our Republican Presidential Debate asking readers who they thought won. One candidate was leading by such a margin that it became obvious the polling wasn't so much a reading of our audience, but of the Internet prowess of this particular candidate's political organization. We have therefore taken the poll down.
Yes, we've gone through this exercise before.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45233756/

Wastler then provides a link to a rather patronizing statement he made back in 2007 to explain why CNBC dumped polling results then as well:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/?An_Open_Letter_to_the_Ron_Paul_Faithful

First of all, let’s be serious, folks! Regardless of what you might feel personally about Ron Paul or his political position, it has become painfully obvious to even the most oblivious subsections of the American populace that the MSM, from supposed “right wing” outlets like FOX, to supposed “left wing” outlets like CNBC, have gone WAY out of their way to ridicule, suppress, or completely ignore him.

Now, you really need to ask yourself, why is that?

If Ron Paul is such a “fringe” candidate with “no chance” of winning, then why all the trickery and subversion? If his political methodologies are so ridiculous or out of sync with the American people, then why not plaster his face on every TV screen in the country and let him destroy his own career? Why hide him from public view?

The answer is simple; because he IS a threat. His position is one of government transparency, limited power, and financial independence. He predicted the credit crisis and the mortgage bubble implosion long before they ever occurred. The guy wants to shut down the Federal Reserve and the cartoonish brute squad otherwise known as the IRS. He wants to end the costly and fraudulent wars in the Middle East and bring the troops home (really bring them home, not make fake statements about bringing them home and then keep them on the ground for another few years). Of course the MSM, a corporately controlled monopolistic sham, is working overtime to keep Paul down!

Think about it. Sit back and consider. If Ron Paul was actually allowed to stand on the same stage as Barack Obama in a fair debate, there would be no half hearted girly-slap pansy sparring going on as there would be in a match between Obama and Romney. Ron Paul would destroy Obama! It would be a massacre of historic proportions! The establishment, which represents a minority of elitists in this country and not the citizenry in any capacity, will not let this happen.

Allen Wastler would call the above statement “conspiracy theory”. All I have to say to Wastler is; prove me wrong! Give Ron Paul fair coverage. Leave your own polls to represent the actual results regardless of whether you like the outcome. But first, answer me these questions, Allen:

1) If your poll was “gamed”, or in other words “hacked”, then I imagine that you and CNBC have some kind of proof of this. Please, do show it to us, so we can better understand your suppression of the poll results. I continuously hear from the MSM that Ron Paul supporters are all master hackers, and that there are only a dozen of us huddled around basement computers posing as millions (and I thought they didn’t believe in conspiracies…), but I have yet to see any concrete evidence to support this notion. Do you have any, Allen?

2) If CNBC’s poll is so easily tampered with, then why continue to run it at all?

3) If Mitt Romney had won the poll by a landslide, would CNBC have suppressed the results then? Or is it only farfetched when Ron Paul prevails in the final calculations? (This is a bit of a rhetorical question, because we all know Mr. Wastler would have danced a jig and sung the glory of Romney over Paul if the roles had been reversed).

4) Why is it that whenever Ron Paul wins a poll, MSM pundits claim the results are unscientific, or that they really don’t represent the true position of the general public? Why is it that a Romney or Cain win brings resounding words of vindication for the nature of the democratic process?

5) What margin of success does CNBC consider “realistic” for a presidential candidate? I mean, is it really necessary for you to punish Ron Paul for being a popular candidate, or to punish his supporters for being well organized and showing up for the vote? Do you not see the half-assed absurdity of your claim that Ron Paul won by “too much”?

6) Isn’t it conceivable that Ron Paul is doing well in the polls because his ideas and views are shared by many Americans? Who are you to claim this is not possible, Mr. Allen?

7) Do you really believe you and CNBC will not be held accountable for misinforming the American people and hiding information pertinent to their political knowledge? The last time I checked, CNBC’s viewership has been in pitiful decline since at least 2009.

8) When are you going to man up, Allen, and admit that you dumped the poll because you are biased against Ron Paul? It’s not as if it is a big secret. Hiding behind superficial excuses such as “hackers” and “poll gaming” is at bottom pretty cowardly. Why not embrace your blatant disapproval of Paul and the considerable movement of Americans surrounding him so that we can have a real discussion, instead of putting on a pretentiously counterfeit smile and talking down your nose at us? Wouldn’t that be more fun?

Let’s bring some honesty, and perhaps finally some true competition, back to the presidential race, and say what is actually on our minds for once. This goes for the staff of CNBC! If Allen Wastler or any other MSM lackey wants to bash Ron Paul, then he should do it openly as a private citizen, not use the CNBC media apparatus as a Hearst-like yellow journalism weapon for misinforming the public, or for indirectly slandering a candidate or his supporters. This should not be a problem for him at all, unless, of course, the corporate owners of CNBC over at G&E play a much greater role in the actions of their news subsidiary than is readily admitted. Then, Allen Wastler’s apprehension in laying out the truth plainly would make a little more sense…

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-...ainst-ron-paul

Ron Paul Interview On CNBC Closing Bell 11/08/2011

Nov 8, 2011

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnoATc8 ... re=related

Candidates Attempt To Be Paul; Media Try To Make Him Disappear

November 11, 2011 by Sam Rolley


Even as other candidates use Ron Pauls messages as their own, the media ignore his presence.

If there was any question that candidates in the 2012 GOP Presidential primary field are attempting to co-opt the message of Ron Paul — the man who has been largely ignored by mainstream media despite growing support — Rick Perry answered it during the Wednesday CNBC “Your Money, Your Vote” debate.

Perry’s notion that he wanted to cut three Federal agencies sounded like it was cut from the pages of Paul’s “Plan To Restore America” in which the Congressman from Texas calls for the elimination of not three, but five Federal bureaucracies. There was only one problem with Perry’s attempt: he couldn’t remember which three agencies he disliked.

“And I will tell you, it is three agencies of government when I get there that are gone,” Perry said. “Commerce, education and the — what’s the third one there? Let’s see. OK. Commerce, education and the…”

The baffled candidate looked toward Paul, the man whose ideas he was trying to emulate, for help.
“The EPA,” Mitt Romney chimed in.

But it wasn’t the Environmental Protection Agency, as Perry revealed nearly 15 minutes later after searching his notes, “By the way, it was the Department of Energy I was talking about.”

Another novel attempt to be Paul came from former Federal Reserve board member Herman Cain, who called for sound currency.
“A dollar must be a dollar when we wake up in the morning, just like 60 minutes is in an hour, a dollar must be a dollar,” he said.
Unfortunately, Cain offered viewers little information about how he, as President, would ensure that the dollar was sound beyond his repetitive mentions of the 9-9-9 tax plan.

The CNBC moderators attempted to bait Paul into appearing to be anti-education by playing a series of video clips showing college students decrying the massive increase in college expense and student loan debt in recent years. They then asked him how eliminating government involvement in education could possibly help the situation.

“I think you proved [with the video] that the policy of student loans is a total failure, I mean a trillion dollars of debt, and it’s going to be dumped on the taxpayer,” he said.

When asked how students could possibly pay for college if student loans were eliminated, Paul gave an answer that received heavy applause.

“The way you pay for cell phones and computers,” he said. “You have the marketplace there, there’s competition — quality goes up, price goes down. Can you imagine what it’d been like if the Department of Homeland Security were in charge of finding one person, or one company to make cell phones? It’d been a total disaster. So, when the government gets involved in the delivery of any service, whether it’s education, medical care or housing, they cause higher prices, lower quality, create bubbles and they give us this mess that we’re in.”

Paul led by a heavy margin in the post-debate poll on CNBC.com, but the poll was removed. The news organization said it removed the poll because it didn’t reflect the views of its audience, according to HuntingtonNews.net. This is the second time that CNBC has removed a poll from its website because Paul was leading. The first time occurred in October, when the candidate took a 75 percent lead in a post-debate poll.

http://www.personalliberty.com/news/...011_11_11_PLA_[P11532882]&rrid=395144110

North Carolina Republican Straw Poll

Saturday, November 19th, 2011 (12:01 AM - 9:00 PM)

The straw poll will be conducted only on Saturday, from midnight Friday(11/18 through 9:00 pm Saturday(11/19) evening, voting requires North Carolina voting registration number. Results will be verified and released on this website as soon as possible after the vote. All votes entered prior to midnight will be erased.

North Carolina, who is your choice as the Republican nominee for President of the United States in 2012?

Answer / Response % / Response Count
Mitt Romney _______ 3.6% _____ 23
Ron Paul _________ 52.2% ____ 329
Newt Gingrich _____ 22.1% ___ 139
Herman Cain ______ 13.3%_____ 84
Rick Perry _________ 1.9% _____ 12
Michele Bachmann___ 2.8% _____ 18
Rick Santorum ______1.9% _____12
Gary Johnson _______0.3% _____ 2
Jon Huntsman _______0.6% _____ 4
Fred Karger ________ 0.0% _____ 0
Andy Martin ________ 0.2% _____ 1
Jimmy McMillan _____ 0.2% _____ 1
Tom Miller _________ 0.2% _____ 1
Buddy Roemer ______ 0.2% _____ 1
Matt Snyder _________0.3% _____ 2
Vern Wuensche _____ 0.2% _____ 1
Other ______________ 0

Total Votes - 630 (Republicans - 507 Independents - 123)





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