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    DAPA has been blocked all this time anyway and dropping it means nothing to us and nothing to illegal aliens.

    DACA Amnesty continues under Trump proving Trump lies about his most important campaign promises and this makes illegal aliens very happy and makes Americans like us very upset and dissappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    DAPA has been blocked all this time anyway and dropping it means nothing to us and nothing to illegal aliens.

    DACA Amnesty continues under Trump proving Trump lies about his most important campaign promises and this makes illegal aliens very happy and makes Americans like us very upset and dissappointed.

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    You're absolutely right. DAPA had already been rejected by the courts. This was just a "make me look good" deal that really didn't accomplish a darn thing. If President Trump wants to get back on my good side he needs to keep his promise to the American people. END DACA NOW, Mr. President!

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    DAPA, DACA Expansion and the 3 year renewal were all revoked. The lawsuit has a ruling from Judge Hanen that kept DACA 2012 in effect during the injunction. The lawsuit should be dismissed within the next 2 weeks at which time that ruling collapses with the dismissal of the lawsuit.

    Also DAPA and DACA Expansion were not rejected by the courts. There was an injunction pending a trial to prevent their implementation pending a trial. With the time running out on the injunction, they had to revoke the Obama Orders of 2014 and ask Texas to dismiss the lawsuit. That ends everything associated with the 2014 Obama Crap as well as collapses Judge Hanen's ruling as part of his injunction to keep the original DACA 2012 in effect. That's why the Press Release says the original DACA June 15, 2012 Memo remains "in effect" to comply with that ruling until the lawsuit is officially dismissed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    DAPA, DACA Expansion and the 3 year renewal were all revoked. The lawsuit has a ruling from Judge Hanen that kept DACA 2012 in effect during the injunction. The lawsuit should be dismissed within the next 2 weeks at which time that ruling collapses with the dismissal of the lawsuit.

    Also DAPA and DACA Expansion were not rejected by the courts. There was an injunction pending a trial to prevent their implementation pending a trial. With the time running out on the injunction, they had to revoke the Obama Orders of 2014 and ask Texas to dismiss the lawsuit. That ends everything associated with the 2014 Obama Crap as well as collapses Judge Hanen's ruling as part of his injunction to keep the original DACA 2012 in effect. That's why the Press Release says the original DACA June 15, 2012 Memo remains "in effect" to comply with that ruling until the lawsuit is officially dismissed.

    Yes, they were! The U.S. Supreme Court's split decision upheld the lower court ruling. DAPA and the program expansion were already dead. Basically nothing was accomplished here. Furthermore, DACA is still alive and thriving as we speak.

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    Yes, they were! The U.S. Supreme Court's split decision upheld the lower court ruling. DAPA and the program expansion were already dead. Basically nothing was accomplished here. Furthermore, DACA is still alive and thriving as we speak.
    No, they were not dead. The ruling that went to the US Supreme Court was a simple injunction to delay implementation until after a trial on the merits. It was NOT A RULING ON THE PROGRAMS or their constitutionality, it was a ruling on an injunction to delay implementation until there was a trial on the merits based on a technicality over proper administrative rules notice in the Federal Register.

    The ruling that went all the way to the US Supreme Court on the injunction INCLUDED a ruling that DACA 2012 REMAIN IN EFFECT during the injunction. You've called this President a liar, you've called him a betrayer, you've accused him of broken promises and even revoked our endorsement of him because you failed to understand that until this lawsuit is won or dismissed by Texas, this administration could not end DACA 2012 due to a federal court ruling that went all the way to the US Supreme Court and was UPHELD.

    When the lawsuit is dismissed, the President will then be free to decide what he wants to do and can do regarding the DACA 2012. There are other laws and issues that pertain to DACA 2012 and Congress appropriations committee is the reason for the DACA 2012 to begin with. That's why they pound Kelly on it non-stop in the Appropriation Sub-Committee hearings. It has to do with prosecutorial discretion and allocation of resources.

    I did the research on this and posted all of the information for everyone here months ago.

    DACA will remain alive and thriving until the US Department of Justice and the State of Texas dismiss the lawsuit. Then the issue will be Appropriations and related Committees of the US Congress.
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    DACA will remain alive and thriving until the US Department of Justice and the State of Texas dismiss the lawsuit. Then the issue will be Appropriations and related Committees of the US Congress.
    You're wrong. The President can end DACA now as could Secretary Kelly if he so desired. This is information well known by anyone that has followed the issue.

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    No they can't end DACA 2012 now. It's still under the court ruling from the injunction to remain in effect. When the case is dismissed which should happen in a few days or within 2 weeks for sure, that's the time period the court gave them to comment and dismiss, then they can sort of end DACA 2012 by refusing new applications and renewals, but they have to notify them individually, they have to give them a response, then wait for their response and on and on. So without going through that 800,000 times, they will probably just let their work permits expire so it will take two years from whenever that happens to be finished with DACA 2012, and then it will be over UNLESS Congress bribes them during Appropriations which is how this DACA thing started to begin with.

    We want money for the wall, new technologies, more ICE Agents, more Border Patrol Agents, Entry-Exit Visa System, and a lot of things that cost money and require appropriations so ... whew .... when Trump says it's "hard", it's "tough", he's really talking about the process of how to end this DACA Disaster Turd Ball.

    But he's taken the action needed to get the ball rolling.
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