Thread: No End in Sight for DACA as Executive Amnesty Turns Five (ALIPAC)

DAPA, DACA Expansion and the 3 year renewal were all revoked. The lawsuit has a ruling from Judge Hanen that kept DACA 2012 in effect during the injunction. The lawsuit should be dismissed within the next 2 weeks at which time that ruling collapses with the dismissal of the lawsuit.

Also DAPA and DACA Expansion were not rejected by the courts. There was an injunction pending a trial to prevent their implementation pending a trial. With the time running out on the injunction, they had to revoke the Obama Orders of 2014 and ask Texas to dismiss the lawsuit. That ends everything associated with the 2014 Obama Crap as well as collapses Judge Hanen's ruling as part of his injunction to keep the original DACA 2012 in effect. That's why the Press Release says the original DACA June 15, 2012 Memo remains "in effect" to comply with that ruling until the lawsuit is officially dismissed.

Originally Posted by Judy

DAPA, DACA Expansion and the 3 year renewal were all revoked. The lawsuit has a ruling from Judge Hanen that kept DACA 2012 in effect during the injunction. The lawsuit should be dismissed within the next 2 weeks at which time that ruling collapses with the dismissal of the lawsuit.

Also DAPA and DACA Expansion were not rejected by the courts. There was an injunction pending a trial to prevent their implementation pending a trial. With the time running out on the injunction, they had to revoke the Obama Orders of 2014 and ask Texas to dismiss the lawsuit. That ends everything associated with the 2014 Obama Crap as well as collapses Judge Hanen's ruling as part of his injunction to keep the original DACA 2012 in effect. That's why the Press Release says the original DACA June 15, 2012 Memo remains "in effect" to comply with that ruling until the lawsuit is officially dismissed.

Yes, they were! The U.S. Supreme Court's split decision upheld the lower court ruling. DAPA and the program expansion were already dead. Basically nothing was accomplished here. Furthermore, DACA is still alive and thriving as we speak.

Originally Posted by MW

Yes, they were! The U.S. Supreme Court's split decision upheld the lower court ruling. DAPA and the program expansion were already dead. Basically nothing was accomplished here. Furthermore, DACA is still alive and thriving as we speak.

No, they were not dead. The ruling that went to the US Supreme Court was a simple injunction to delay implementation until after a trial on the merits. It was NOT A RULING ON THE PROGRAMS or their constitutionality, it was a ruling on an injunction to delay implementation until there was a trial on the merits based on a technicality over proper administrative rules notice in the Federal Register.

The ruling that went all the way to the US Supreme Court on the injunction INCLUDED a ruling that DACA 2012 REMAIN IN EFFECT during the injunction. You've called this President a liar, you've called him a betrayer, you've accused him of broken promises and even revoked our endorsement of him because you failed to understand that until this lawsuit is won or dismissed by Texas, this administration could not end DACA 2012 due to a federal court ruling that went all the way to the US Supreme Court and was UPHELD.

When the lawsuit is dismissed, the President will then be free to decide what he wants to do and can do regarding the DACA 2012. There are other laws and issues that pertain to DACA 2012 and Congress appropriations committee is the reason for the DACA 2012 to begin with. That's why they pound Kelly on it non-stop in the Appropriation Sub-Committee hearings. It has to do with prosecutorial discretion and allocation of resources.

I did the research on this and posted all of the information for everyone here months ago.

DACA will remain alive and thriving until the US Department of Justice and the State of Texas dismiss the lawsuit. Then the issue will be Appropriations and related Committees of the US Congress.

DACA will remain alive and thriving until the US Department of Justice and the State of Texas dismiss the lawsuit. Then the issue will be Appropriations and related Committees of the US Congress.

You're wrong. The President can end DACA now as could Secretary Kelly if he so desired. This is information well known by anyone that has followed the issue.

No they can't end DACA 2012 now. It's still under the court ruling from the injunction to remain in effect. When the case is dismissed which should happen in a few days or within 2 weeks for sure, that's the time period the court gave them to comment and dismiss, then they can sort of end DACA 2012 by refusing new applications and renewals, but they have to notify them individually, they have to give them a response, then wait for their response and on and on. So without going through that 800,000 times, they will probably just let their work permits expire so it will take two years from whenever that happens to be finished with DACA 2012, and then it will be over UNLESS Congress bribes them during Appropriations which is how this DACA thing started to begin with.

We want money for the wall, new technologies, more ICE Agents, more Border Patrol Agents, Entry-Exit Visa System, and a lot of things that cost money and require appropriations so ... whew .... when Trump says it's "hard", it's "tough", he's really talking about the process of how to end this DACA Disaster Turd Ball.

But he's taken the action needed to get the ball rolling.

In the meantime...ALL DACA CRIMINALS AND LIARS should be deported within 24 hours of apprehension.

Straight out of the country!!!

Absolutely, Beezer!! Everyone here illegally has got to go. We need the aid and assistance of state and local law enforcement and we need it now. There are 800,000 trained, equipped, and sworn police officers at the state and local level who must help US solve this problem. We must put out pleas to them to do their patriotic duty to help US remove these people from our country. They know who they are, where they are and what they're doing. This removal can be accomplished Easy Peasy in less than 2 years if our state and local police officers would assist our country with the arrests, detentions, deportations and removals.

Originally Posted by Judy

No they can't end DACA 2012 now. It's still under the court ruling from the injunction to remain in effect. When the case is dismissed which should happen in a few days or within 2 weeks for sure, that's the time period the court gave them to comment and dismiss, then they can sort of end DACA 2012 by refusing new applications and renewals, but they have to notify them individually, they have to give them a response, then wait for their response and on and on. So without going through that 800,000 times, they will probably just let their work permits expire so it will take two years from whenever that happens to be finished with DACA 2012, and then it will be over UNLESS Congress bribes them during Appropriations which is how this DACA thing started to begin with.

We want money for the wall, new technologies, more ICE Agents, more Border Patrol Agents, Entry-Exit Visa System, and a lot of things that cost money and require appropriations so ... whew .... when Trump says it's "hard", it's "tough", he's really talking about the process of how to end this DACA Disaster Turd Ball.

But he's taken the action needed to get the ball rolling.

You are so very wrong. President Trump or Secretary Kelly can end DACA on a minutes notice if so desired. Your old excuse of DACA ending on June 15th didn't pan out, so now you've came up with another excuse to shield the Trump administration. This is not something you should continue to dream up excuses for.

LOL!! But it did pan out. That's why we're chatting about the actions taken by Sessions, Kelly and Trump on June 15 to end DAPA and DACA. I fully expect we'll be chatting about it again within 2 weeks when the Texas lawsuit is officially dismissed and the court order on DACA 2012 removed. That's because:

I BELIEVE!!!!

"Once in a golden hour, I cast to earth a seed, up there came a flower, the people said a weed." Tennyson

This is from NumbersUSA. Article: https://www.numbersusa.com/news/dhs-...s-dapa-amnesty

DHS Secretary Kelly Ends DAPA Amnesty

PUBLISHED:

Fri, JUN 16th 2017

DHS Secretary John Kelly partially fulfilled one of President Trump's key campaign promises on Thursday night when he rescinded the DAPA amnesty. The illegal and unconstitutional executive amnesty issued by former President Barack Obama would have granted an estimated 5 million work permits to illegal aliens who were the parents of U.S. citizens or Legal Permanent Residents.

The Administration has yet to take action on the DACA Amnesty, and a DHS report last week showed that the Trump Administration has issued thousands of new work permits to illegal aliens and renewed more than a 100,000 more since taking office.

The Department of Homeland Security issued the following statement on Thursday night:

On June 15, Department of Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly, after consulting with the Attorney General [Jeff Sessions], signed a memorandum rescinding the November 20, 2014 memorandum that created the program known as Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents (“DAPA”) because there is no credible path forward [in the courts] to litigate the currently enjoined policy.

The DAPA executive amnesty had been temporarily blocked by a federal court after 26 states, led by Texas, sued the Administration over the order shortly after it was announced in November 2014. Federal District Judge Andrew Hanen issued a nationwide temporary injunction against the executive action in 2015 that was upheld by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. The Obama Administration challenged the ruling to the Supreme Court, but only eight justices were seated at the time of the appeal, so no decision was reached.

On August 31, 2016, Pres. Trump delivered a campaign speech listing his immigration priorities if elected. Number five on the list was to end the DACA and DAPA amnesties.

We will immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the Constitution to give amnesty to approximately five million illegal immigrants, five million.
-- Pres. Trump, August 31, 2016