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    There will be a Senate Committee hearing on Operation Streamline or "mass migrant prosecutions" TOMORROW On July 29, in Sen. Ron Johnson's Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. The usual groups are protesting these efficient, speedy methods of identifying a criminal element. This is separate from normal border control, nonetheless groups like Human Rights Watch find it a problem. http://www.hrw.org/news/2015/07/28/u...t-prosecutions

    According to them:

    "(Washington, DC) – A proposed United States Senate resolution to support the criminal prosecution of migrants in mass, rapid-fire hearings would perpetuate unfair processes, at great human and financial cost, Human Rights Watch said today.

    Senate resolution 104, scheduled to be considered in the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on July 29, 2015, states that the program, called Operation Streamline, has been a success and that refusing to prosecute “first-time illegal border crossers” would undermine that success."


    Why? Let's show that we support this as a way of saving taxpayers dollars by quickly identifying certain persons and sending them back before they become a bigger concern to us. You can leave a message for Sen. Johnson's Committee via their webpage:
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    Just say that you support Operation Streamline and support Senate Resolution 104 and want to see the program continue protecting Americans in an efficient way.
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    Santorum has the best score in immigration on NumbersUSA (A). He has never been for amnesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thestorm View Post
    Santorum has the best score in immigration on NumbersUSA (A). He has never been for amnesty.
    Yes, and I really like Santorum. Unfortunately he is getting zero traction. Right now Walker is the way I'm leaning. I am extremely disappointed in how fast Trump folded under pressure from pro-illegal immigrant advocates. Of course it's very possible Trump has always been an amnesty supporter and it was just a matter of time before his real feelings were made public. Honestly, what have we really heard from Trump that we can sink our teeth into? All I'm hearing is a bunch of hot air and no real solutions. For example, he's going to build this huge fence and make Mexico pay for it. Exactly how is he going to get Congress to side with him on such an endeavor, and more importantly, how is he going to get Mexico to pay for it? Heck, Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 ....... we see how well that worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    Trump's Support for Amnesty Will Sink His Campaign

    July 28, 2015

    Contact: Americans for Legal Immigration PAC | (866) 703-0864 | WilliamG@alipac.us

    After coming out strong for a secure border and bringing attention to illegal immigrant crimes against Americans, Donald Trump is now promoting his plan to change America's existing immigration laws to create a merit system by which illegals currently in America can stay and eventually gain voting rights where they are expected to help Democrats dominate US elections forevermore.

    "We owe Donald Trump a big debt of gratitude for using his influence and star power to bring attention to some examples of the thousands of Americans being killed by the longstanding policy of inadequate enforcement of America's existing laws," said William Gheen, President of ALIPAC. "However, the last thing anyone who recently jumped on the Trump bandwagon wanted to hear from him was some kind of amnesty plan that the recent targets of his ire like John McCain and Lindsey Graham would approve of! Trump was really sounding like something new until he fell in line with the amnesty lackeys of the US Chamber of Commerce. We need a Presidential candidate who will fully enforce our existing laws instead of undermining enforcement with talk of changing our laws to accommodate millions of imported illegal alien socialist voters!"

    Donald Trump went on the Sean Hannity show to further promote his amnesty plan where he says he will get rid of the "bad ones" and make a system where the "good ones" can stay in America while expediting the legal immigration process beyond the current sky high legal levels! Such a massive change in America's existing immigration laws is the exact same plan supported by Trump's opponents like Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, etc...

    ALIPAC has been researching and monitoring Trump's desire to help illegal aliens stay in America. (click to view)

    While in recent years pro amnesty groups and organizations like Fox News and the Associated Press have paid for designer polls that make the false claim that a majority of Americans support allowing illegals to stay, a large volume of polls collected at ALIPAC shows the opposite. (click to view) A majority of Americans support the existing laws which are designed to be both punitive and a deterrent to illegal immigration by requiring illegals to leave America.

    Donald Trump has now become the latest Republican to advocate the destruction of America's ability to deter future illegal immigration, and continued and expanded voting by the 12-30 million illegals currently in the US will lead to a great increase in the number of illegal immigration supporting socialist Democrats in office! Illegal immigrants are already voting in vast numbers in states like Nevada, California, Oregon, and Washington State where they reelected Harry Reid and stopped the Tea Party advance in 2010!

    Regretfully, Donald Trump is being added to ALIPAC's Cantor List where other GOP amnesty supporters are being targeted for defeat in 2016. NumbersUSA has also lowered their candidate report card rating for Trump in reaction to his amnesty support. For more information or to schedule interviews, please visit www.alipac.us.

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    I must admit that I am disappointed that Mr. Trump has flipped flopped, maybe it was only a matter of time, or maybe his campaign advisers told him that if he wanted the Mexican vote he would have to 'eat crow' and pander to the Mexican/hispanic community. I was hoping that he would NOT be gutless, but ales, he is either kowtowing to Latino political pressure, or he outright lied.. A true disappointment and a huge mistake on his part. I am all for Securing our Border and halting immigration (putting a moratorium)!

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    But you notice she still says "Go Trump! Go!" at the end of the interview! So despite Trump's weaking on immigration she STILL supports him. It's shocking because wants ALL immigration stopped for 10 years and wants to deport ALL illegal immigrants but she still supports Trump! I wonder why?? At least she should be speaking up for him to get tougher on immigration. I'm sure she could easily talk to Trump if she wanted to which is something we couldn't do except maybe William.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopillegalimmigration View Post
    But you notice she still says "Go Trump! Go!" at the end of the interview! So despite Trump's weaking on immigration she STILL supports him. It's shocking because wants ALL immigration stopped for 10 years and wants to deport ALL illegal immigrants but she still supports Trump! I wonder why?? At least she should be speaking up for him to get tougher on immigration. I'm sure she could easily talk to Trump if she wanted to which is something we couldn't do except maybe William.
    I'm not so sure saying, "Go Trump! Go!" necessarily mean she supports or trust him. It could mean she just wants him to continue keeping the issue of border security and illegal immigration in the media spotlight .... just a thought. What say you, could that be a possibility?

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    Well, now we know it was all just another "Border Security First!" charade which in political practice means "Mass [and unquestioning] AMNESTY Now, Security NEVER!" Was Trump just caught by the media being stupid, or was it all a ploy to provide COVER for GOP candidates shilling for the Cheap Labor Lobby?
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    When I read the news about Alipac and NumbersUSA and Donald Trump, my heart sank a bit. We have seen a renewed and constant focus recently in the media and elsewhere on the devastating results of illegal immigration. We have seen and heard from families of victims, some using words of "hope" and "thank you" for the fact that Donald Trump brought a big, bright light to the issue of illegal immigration and those hurt and killed by illegal aliens. We have seen other candidates, who have been strong on illegal immigration get more noticed, too.

    I think of Mr. Trump as somewhat of a "bucking bronco" or a "bull in a china shop" as he garners attention from the public and media and politicians. I would like to see illegal immigration stay as the top message as he stays in the forefront. I would like to see the bronco tamed on the message of illegal immigration by informed messengers.

    I would like to see the tens of thousands of supporters of Alipac and NumbersUSA and other groups and the tens of millions of American citizens who use social media storm his twitter and facebook pages and email sources if available with a singular message of enforce the laws, no amnesty or look-a-like amnesty, fine and jail employers and strip any benefits to illegal aliens. Remind Mr. Trump of what wishy washy attitudes toward illegal immigration and amnesty will result in, a failed campaign.

    This is not about determining who is "good" or "bad." This is about enforcing the law and securing the border. The illegal aliens will have to figure out what to do just as they originally plotted to violate our borders, steal identities and jobs, and help to destroy lives and alter our communities.

    To "Make America Great Again" we must deal with illegal immigration and secure our borders. The foreign trouble makers must stop dictating to us and the citizens need to be in control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    I'm not so sure saying, "Go Trump! Go!" necessarily mean she supports or trust him. It could mean she just wants him to continue keeping the issue of border security and illegal immigration in the media spotlight .... just a thought. What say you, could that be a possibility?
    There is good news! Yesterday Trump was interviewed on CNN by Dana Bash and he said ALL illegals must be returned to their native countries! He then said then they can reapply to come back but he clearly got tougher than just the day before when he said some can stay. Now he says ALL must go! He didn't even commit to letting the DACA kids stay and they have gotten more sympathy than any other group!

    He's not as tough as William or the rest of us BUT Trump is heading in the right direction and INFINITELY better than any Democratic candidate and even most other GOP candidates!

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    I predict Trump will be annihilated in the debates, things are going to change quickly.
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