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06-23-2008, 08:01 PM #21
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It's sad that child was left alone, but what is really sad is the pro-illegals using this story to further their own evil movement.
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06-23-2008, 11:40 PM #22AprilGuestIn fact, that's one clue that points to the fact that this story may just be true. With so much trauma and stress happening to these undocumented families, children witness it and internalize it. There's not much for them to be happy about in their young childhoods.
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06-24-2008, 11:14 AM #23
You got to ask yourself, what kind of human would just take their 2 year old and abandon him just because they don't have the money to take care of their own responsibility. Talk about sorry! They should have considered this before they even though about having children, but then that would be the responsible thing to do. This should be the posted child for anti-illegal groups. This is exactly the kind of people we do not need in America and this is exactly the kind of human that violates the laws of another country by entering illegally.
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06-24-2008, 12:24 PM #24
AHHHH so from the looks of the above posts their SOB story did not work!!
So glad to know some in this country still have some common sense!
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06-24-2008, 12:30 PM #25
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As a mother, and now a grandmother, myself, I cannot imagine taking one of my kids at that age, nor my grandson, and purposely leaving them behind somewhere (now that my son is hitting his wonderful teen years, there are times......... ).
Even in the worst of times, we have found ways to take care of them, my husband even has taken on day labor jobs for food and bill money. You do what you must to take care of your kids.
This woman could have asked churches and charities, we all know they would have helped her, and I bet she does too, she just did not want to. It would seem she had her mind set on playing it up in the perpetual victim mode.“In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.â€
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11-21-2008, 07:24 PM #26
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Mother of abandoned Frankfort todder to plead guilty
By Sophia Voravong • svoravong@journalandcourier.com • November 21, 2008
FRANKFORT - The mother of a toddler found abandoned in June at the city's Wal-Mart Supercenter is expected to plead guilty Monday to neglect of a dependent.
Julia Ornelas, 38, is expected to enter a "straight plea," Clinton County Prosecutor Tony Sommer said today. That means she would not receive benefits - such as a reduced charge or lower, recommended time in prison - that some defendants get through a formal plea agreement.
The plea hearing is scheduled for 1 p.m. in Clinton Superior Court.
"Nothing is final yet," Sommer said. "It all depends on whether she goes through with tending the plea and whether the judge decides to accept it."
Ornelas is charged with a single count: neglect of a dependent by abandonment, a Class D felony. She is accused of leaving her 3-year-old son, Julian Ornelas, at Frankfort's Wal-Mart on June 13, with only a backpack that contained some personal items and a handwritten note in Spanish.
A message was left this afternoon for her attorney, Brad Mohler, seeking comment. During her arraignment in August, Ornelas admitted that she was guilty of the allegations laid out in court.
Julian's abandonment prompted widespread attention, with Maj. Jeff Ward, a detective with the Frankfort Police Department, appearing on several television news outlets.
At the time - based on the note left with the boy - investigators had believed that Julian's name was Martin and that his mother was an immigrant from Guatemala who no longer could care for him.
They later learned that Ornelas lived in Tipton and, at one time, in Frankfort.
A break in the case when a relative of the boy in Texas saw Ward on a news program July 8 on Spanish-language broadcaster Univision. The relative called police the next day.
Ornelas has been in the Clinton County Jail on a $100,000 surety bond since her arrest in August.
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11-23-2008, 03:01 AM #27
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The question still, is this woman an illegal alien? If not then she cannot be used by the OBL....
“In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.â€
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11-23-2008, 10:08 AM #28With so much trauma and stress happening to these undocumented families, children witness it and internalize it. There's not much for them to be happy about in their young childhoods.
DON'T COME HERE ILLEGALLY - apparently it's too traumatizing for children.The flag flies at half-mast out of grief for the death of my beautiful, formerly-free America. May God have mercy on your souls.
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11-23-2008, 12:10 PM #29
If you're an illegal you don't have to pay for medical, education or food for your child. It's all free - unlike poor Americans.
The solution to her problem would be to hop a bus to Chicago and take refuge in a church. She will have everything she needs free and will be untouched by legal authorities."A Nation of sheep will beget a government of Wolves" -Edward R. Murrow
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