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    Quote Originally Posted by DeDe
    Judy,

    I have been following this group and others over the years. However, the message IS a NEW ONE. The NEW MESSAGE has never presented itself to us, at least not in my lifetime...our unemployment numbers and the trends that no one is talking about. To say 9.7% unemployment doesn't even begin to tell the story.

    "Of this number 1.1 MILLION of these Americans have become discouraged workers who have stopped searching altogether (because they believe there is no job available to them, this figure is also trending up)."

    My point is, we need to FOCUS on the reality of UNEMPLOYMENT and what 9.7% really represents. Everyone needs to be thinking one thing,
    AMERICAN JOBS FOR AMERICAN WORKERS! We need to find a way of putting that in ALL OUR HEADS, don't you agree?

    No effort is being made on this front. The Tea Party "groups" are useless because of the organizers who have taken it upon themselves to decide what issues will and will NOT be addressed. IT IS NOT THEIR DECISION. We must find a way to work around that very small group of Americans and let the majority of Patriots decided what WILL and will not be addressed. How do we do that?
    Oh yes, I totally agree. We have to expose the special interests whose rhetoric and lies are destroying our country. We have to scream from the rooftops, American Jobs for American Workers. We have to tell the people who call US racists because we want American Jobs for American Workers to go to hell and throw them out of office. We have to tell the people who call US "xenophobes" because we want to protect our trade to stuff their rhetoric and deceit where the sun don't shine. We have to tell any politician or wanna be politicians from any party that if you don't stand up for American Jobs for American Workers which means securing our borders, enforcing US immigration law and deporting every single illegal alien in our country complete with offspring and restore protected trade policies then we'll throw you out of office too and kick your butts to the back of a soup line. We have to tell the unions, "get up off your butts, get out of those union halls, fire the treasonous leaders who have betrayed and sold you out completely, and go fight to get your jobs back". We have to tell government workers, if you aren't with US, you're against US. We have to tell the owners of our corporations, if you aren't with US, we're going to bankrupt your treasonous butts and start new companies who want American Jobs for American Workers. We have to tell management of these corporations when they fire American Workers, they just fired themselves. We have to tell every American who benefits from stabbing 10,000 other Americans in the back with pro-immigration crap and free trade treason, we're going to put you out of business and terminate your jobs.

    And when they think we can't do that? We're going to tell them, YES WE CAN, because we're not going to pass Amnesty that steals American Jobs From American Workers, we're going to pass the FairTax that creates American Jobs for American Workers.

    They have US in a stew pot with so many issues that are all interconnected to destroy our nation that we have to unravel the whole mess. Yes, we must demand American Jobs for American Workers but we must also demand the means and mechanisms to achieve it, because if we don't, they'll just create government jobs and turn US into a socialist police welfare-based economy.

    And one group we must reach which has ironically been one of the driving forces for both illegal immigration and free trade combined are US farmers. Until US farmers understand that when they hire an illegal alien to pick their fruit, they paved the way for chicken processors to illegal aliens to pluck their chickens just as when they clamor for free trade to export another bushel of soybeans, they just paved the way for General Motors to import 2 million cars from Brazil with the bananas.

    AMERICAN JOBS FOR AMERICAN WORKERS!

    1. stop illegal immigration
    2. pass the FairTax
    3. protect our trade
    4. legalize/regulate/tax under 2 the illegal drug trade
    5. drill baby drill

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    About the drilling

    I cannot agree with you about the drilling. Why emotionally it might have some benefits, realistically, we don't have enough reserves to make a sustained difference.

    What we should be working for is total energy independence. That means green technology and nuclear technology.

    Our leaders of both parties should get behind a program to reach that goal within 10 years., like the quest to land on the moon. One thing we do still have as a nation is a wild, inventive spirit. It should be challenged (and research funded) to ensure it happens.

    Then we can tell those in the Arab world that are holding us hostage to take a flying leap. As long as the oil and gas special linterests rule in America, we are tied to their apron strings.
    Take a stand or all there will be left to do is to ask the last person in the country we once called America to lower the flag one last time.

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    Re: About the drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettybb
    I cannot agree with you about the drilling. Why emotionally it might have some benefits, realistically, we don't have enough reserves to make a sustained difference.

    What we should be working for is total energy independence. That means green technology and nuclear technology.

    Our leaders of both parties should get behind a program to reach that goal within 10 years., like the quest to land on the moon. One thing we do still have as a nation is a wild, inventive spirit. It should be challenged (and research funded) to ensure it happens.

    Then we can tell those in the Arab world that are holding us hostage to take a flying leap. As long as the oil and gas special linterests rule in America, we are tied to their apron strings.
    I tend to agree with you Bettybb but until the Oil & Gas special interest find a way to make money off of green energy they will stop its developement.

    In fact,I would guess they have already stopped many attempts to develope American clean CHEAP energy.
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    Re: About the drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettybb
    I cannot agree with you about the drilling. Why emotionally it might have some benefits, realistically, we don't have enough reserves to make a sustained difference.

    What we should be working for is total energy independence. That means green technology and nuclear technology.

    Our leaders of both parties should get behind a program to reach that goal within 10 years., like the quest to land on the moon. One thing we do still have as a nation is a wild, inventive spirit. It should be challenged (and research funded) to ensure it happens.

    Then we can tell those in the Arab world that are holding us hostage to take a flying leap. As long as the oil and gas special linterests rule in America, we are tied to their apron strings.
    We actually have far more reserves than they're telling in Alaska, Wyoming and of course off-shore. I totally support alternative energy, but I also know that we are years away from these alternatives being affordable and viable in our market-place. I too support nuclear energy and have always have. I think the industry got a bad rap after 3-mile island. But on the bright side, the industry has been busy working on new and better technologies and when they build plants today, they should be even more reliable than they were then, provided they use American made quality products and hire quality American workers. They are also very close to a viable spent rod recycling process that will reduce dramatically the volume of nuclear waste storage and even use up that which is stored now.

    Keep in mind also, that without lifting the bans on domestic drilling, we are captives of a global price-fixing cartel whose business practices violate almost every single provision of our own Sherman Anti-Trust Act. Having our own providers who operate subject to that anti-trust law will make a huge difference in the price, cost and supply options. We also need to de-regulate the utilities industry and force competition within these state and territory-protected markets. I lived in Pennsylvania when Pennsylvania deregulated, and utility prices fell by 30 to 50% with no reduction in service benefits. Now I live in North Carolina who was about to deregulate a few years ago but after 9/11 decided they wanted to keep control, for no valid reason and our utility costs are 2 and 3 x what they are in deregulated states. And my utility and 97 others are municipal owned utilities, owned by city and state governments. Anyone who thinks the government can do anything better than the private sector, needs to live under the control of one to learn otherwise. My electric bill for part of December and January, 36 days, when I was away for 3 weeks of that period for the holidays with temperature settings at 65% on the ground floor and 60% on the second floor was $954 in NORTH CAROLINA, 2 times the highest bill in the history of my 10 year residence in this structure, and no one was home using anything except heat for the pets. Try arguing that bill which of course is a total fraud with a police state. I can't wait until an alternative solar and/or wind turbine system is available to get off this utility and operate self-sufficiently. I'm also looking forward to test-driving the Chevy Volt.

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    How much they cost a year

    Informative, and mind boggling!

    You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

    Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts...






    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.




    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.


    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML



    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML



    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt..0.HTML



    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.


    Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.HTML



    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANSCRIP ... dt.01.HTML



    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.HTML





    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.


    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML




    9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI% ... dt.01.HTML



    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US ..


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANSCRIPTS ... t..01.HTML





    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the US from the Southern border.


    Verify at: Homeland Security Report:



    12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'


    Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute..org ... tation.PDF






    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.


    Verify at: http://www..rense..com/general75/niht.htm

    http://www.rense.com/general75/niht..htm



    14.. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

    Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml < http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml http://ww/% 20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>

    Please tell me why the Gov. does not want them out? Big Wow




    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.



    Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S.CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!
    Last edited by Jean; 08-24-2013 at 11:09 PM.

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    US Patriot,

    Sorry, but I don't know how to do that insert quote thing.

    Actually, big oil is already working hard on obtaining oil from algae, as are many other groups around the world. I rather think it is just a question of big oil wanting to make sure it controls any new energy source, and that is why there is not a big government push for alternative energy research.

    It just does not make sense that solar is not used more, given the number of states that could do so with their climate. However, here in CA, it is starting to take off, what a major manufacturing factory for solar panels being set up. The technology is improving by leaps and bounds according to our technical press. Prices are also starting to drop as demand grows.

    Obama and the Dems lost a great opportunity to upgrade our national infrasture, like Eisenhower did with the interstate system. Instead of a give away to the banks, they should have pumped that money into an energy independance program.

    But hey, Obama was a big recipient of campaign donations from banks... so... well we all know the story.
    Take a stand or all there will be left to do is to ask the last person in the country we once called America to lower the flag one last time.

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    Hi Judy,

    Sorry but I do not know how to insert a quote.

    I cannot help but think that American's greatness has long resided in our ability to innovate. Reliance on oil, that is not a renewable resource, and will run out, is stiffling that innovation.

    Did you know that France and Canada are both imposing a requirement that 10% of fuel sold be biodiesel? Those countries are going to leap forward in alternate fuel technology and America will be left behind. Of course, more people in these countries already drive cars that are outfitted with diesel engines, so a switch can occur.

    The scary part is that it is technology that creates wealth in a society. The most technologically advanced societies have the greastest economies. We are slipping fast.
    Take a stand or all there will be left to do is to ask the last person in the country we once called America to lower the flag one last time.

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    Re: How much they cost a year

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharen
    Informative, and mind boggling!

    You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

    Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

    I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts...






    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.





    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.


    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML



    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML



    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt..0.HTML



    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.


    Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.HTML



    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANSCRIP ... dt.01.HTML



    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

    Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.HTML





    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.


    Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML




    9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI% ... dt.01.HTML



    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US ..


    Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANSCRIPTS ... t..01.HTML





    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the US from the Southern border.


    Verify at: Homeland Security Report:



    12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'


    Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute..org ... tation.PDF






    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.


    Verify at: http://www..rense..com/general75/niht.htm

    http://www.rense.com/general75/niht..htm



    14.. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

    Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml < http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml http://ww/% 20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>

    Please tell me why the Gov. does not want them out? Big Wow




    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.



    Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S.CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!


    I don't think Americans are stupid, but they have been lied to and defrauded so many times by entities and individuals that they thought they could trust that it makes US look stupid.

    The only time you can fool an American is when we're not paying attention. Well, we're paying attention now!

    WELCOME TO ALIPAC, Sharen!! Thank you also for that informative post. I've seen it before but it never hurts to repost and repost and report the truth about illegal immigration over and over again.

    Last edited by Jean; 08-27-2013 at 04:15 PM.
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    Re: How much they cost a year

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharen
    Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S.CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!
    We're paying them to colonize us even tho millions of Americans are unemployed.

    We've got to go back to believing in ourselves. Americans first in this magnificent country, American jobs for American workers, fair trade not free trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettybb
    Sorry, but I don't know how to do that insert quote thing.
    No worries. Press the "Quote" button at the top of a post that you want to quote. When the post appears in the reply box, look at the poster's name. There should be a square bracket at the end of the name. So, for example, [quote="Bettybb"[b]][/b] Then just delete the portions that you don't want to include in your reply. Make sure that the ending square brackets are also complete.

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