Looks like HAPPY2BEME has started a real dialogue among ALIPAC members. We really need this. I would like to put in my own "2 cents worth" regarding the third party thing. I think there is a third alternative to the third party issue. How about this: conservatives work like hell to elect a true conservative in the Republican primary. If the RINO wins anyway then we stay home (very loudly sitting it out) even if it means the Democrat wins? Why? Because the RINO will be eliminated, and come the next election we get another try at getting a conservative Republican. We need to eliminate the RINOs from the GOP by whatever means it takes. Also, should we be given the choice between a RINO or a Democrat, we could try to run a third party spoiler to defeat the RINO and we could quite possibly win. We could also, where feasible, have a permanent third party that would play the role of a permanent "swing" voting block. Should the Republican Party nominate a conservative the third party could then also nominate that same Republican candidate

I believe this was done with the aid of William F. Buckley with a New York State "Conservative Party" years ago.

Many of the strategies I have suggested are not original; the RINOs have been using most of them (other than an independent third party) for years to beat down conservatives within the GOP; so, we owe them no loyalty; indeed, it past time for "pay back."

It does not have to be a choice between a third party or the GOP, nor a total destruction of the Republican Party (as tempting as that is) but with clever strategy and organized cooperation we may be able to have the best of both worlds.

There should be only one guiding strategy, do whatever it takes to defeat the RINOs.