Thread: Can Republican Governors Block Syrian Refugees From Settling in Their States?

Originally Posted by johnwk

Read the 10th Amendment. Each State prior to the adoption of our existing Constitution were in full charge over immigration and naturalization. By the adoption of our existing Constitution they delegated the power over naturalization to the federal government while retaining the power over immigration.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand? A power not delegated is a power retained!

The only power I see in the Constitution relating to this issue [immigration] is that which is found under Article 1, Section 9, and allows a tax or duty to be imposed on the importation of foreigners, but leaves the State free to admit whom they please.

"The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person."


Why is it so difficult for you to understand "naturalization" and "immigration" involve two distinct powers: the former being delegated to Congress while the latter has been retained by the States?




JWK


The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.___Tenth Amendment

Exactly. The confusion people express over the terms naturalization and immigration is deliberate, it's how they merged the two separate powers and functions into one in an attempt to establish a new power the federal government was never granted by the US Constitution. It's deliberate foolishness, recklessness and extreme blatant abuse of power.

Originally Posted by Judy

Exactly. The confusion people express over the terms naturalization and immigration is deliberate, it's how they merged the two separate powers and functions into one in an attempt to establish a new power the federal government was never granted by the US Constitution. It's deliberate foolishness, recklessness and extreme blatant abuse of power.

It appears John Doe2 has a problem answering the question "Under what Constitutional wording has the president been granted a power to flood a state with "refugees"?

The fact is, Congress cannot assume powers not granted nor delegate powers to the President not authorized by our Constitution. To assume otherwise is to assume ”the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves.”___ quoting Hamilton in Federalist No 78.


JWK





The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

Originally Posted by johnwk

It appears John Doe2 has a problem answering the question "Under what Constitutional wording has the president been granted a power to flood a state with "refugees"?

The fact is, Congress cannot assume powers not granted nor delegate powers to the President not authorized by our Constitution. To assume otherwise is to assume ”the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves.”___ quoting Hamilton in Federalist No 78.


JWK





The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

Exactly.

Originally Posted by johnwk

It appears John Doe2 has a problem answering the question "Under what Constitutional wording has the president been granted a power to flood a state with "refugees"?

NO. The question is NOT about the president, congress or the federal government.

(I hope governors CAN keep any and all foreigners out of their state.)

The question is DOES THE GOVERNOR HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO KEEP ANYONE OUT OF THEIR STATE?

If the answer is YES. What is the source of that authority? WITH A LINK TO THE EXACT WORDING THAT GRANTS THAT AUTHORITY TO THE GOVERNORS.

An answer without a link is just more he said, she said.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

NO. The question is NOT about the president, congress or the federal government.

(I hope governors CAN keep any and all foreigners out of their state.)

The question is DOES THE GOVERNOR HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO KEEP ANYONE OUT OF THEIR STATE?

If the answer is YES. What is the source of that authority? WITH A LINK TO THE EXACT WORDING THAT GRANTS THAT AUTHORITY TO THE GOVERNORS.

An answer without a link is just more he said, she said.

Tell us John Doe, under what wording in our Constitution have the states delegated their original power over immigration to the federal government? If that wording cannot be pointed to then yes, under the Tenth Amendment the States can refuse to allow the President to fill their States with unwanted refugees.


The fact is, Congress cannot assume powers not granted nor delegate powers to the President not authorized by our Constitution. To assume otherwise is to assume ”the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves.”___ quoting Hamilton in Federalist No 78.


So, Mr. Doe, under what wording in our Constitution have the states delegated their original power over immigration to the federal government?


JWK



The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47