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    minnie wrote:

    Torture puts American lives at risk.If we stoop to the level of torture then our men & women will be tortured as well and I absolutely disagree with any country using torture.
    Do you honestly think Muslim terrorist aren't going to torture Americans just because we aren't torturing captured terrorist?

    We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I'd torture the hell out of a terrorist if I thought the torture would prevent a terrorist act that would cost the lives of thousands of American citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    minnie wrote:

    Torture puts American lives at risk.If we stoop to the level of torture then our men & women will be tortured as well and I absolutely disagree with any country using torture.
    Do you honestly think Muslim terrorist aren't going to torture Americans just because we aren't torturing captured terrorist?

    We're going to have to agree to disagree on this because I'd torture the hell out of a terrorist if I thought the torture would prevent
    a terrorist act that would cost the lives of
    thousands of American citizens.
    Your assumptions are the motif why Americans are been hated around the world.
    Instead of been respected we are been seen as the torturers and the conquerers.
    If this makes you feel good is a matter of personality, I myself feel very bad and I always try to explain how good America is .
    Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, also used torture .

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    I just came over here to post something I heard at the end of the post debate in another thread.

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-92200.html

    I just finished watching the neocons and a holes give their opinion of who did the best in the debate and while not hearing it all. I heard the last part where that CNN Lawyer (the one with the curly hair and glasses) I think his name is Jeffrey Tubin said: Ron Paul still thinks there is a highway being built from Mexico to Canada through Texas, and they all laughed.

    I am so mad I could spit bullets.

    The adrenalin is pretty high about now, so I'll be up.
    What stinkin lier's.
    Yes, I heard that too!!! Lie to our faces...WHEN THEY KNOW WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They play us for fools, but they are the fools and WE ARE AS MAD AS HELL AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!! The days of pulling the wool over our eyes are LONG GONE!!!!
    LOLOLOLOLOL YOU THINK YOU CAN CREATE CHANGE BY YOURSELF? HAHAHA! the truth is that giuliani will win the nomination while the bottom three goes back home. haha you alipac guys are funny! funny!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
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    Me either ! I don't know anyone who is pro war . My son and a couple other family and friends were first to go to Iraq . I have never been pro war .

    I'm not pro islam victory either or giving any more power or land to them and exsposing innocent humans beings to their tyanny .

    Israel has a few nukes that do not need to be surrounded by lunatics or fanatics who love death . Hamas ,Fatah are not only hating us and Israel ,but they also hate each other ! One little radical temper tantrum could start ww111 !
    I'm talking about THIS war.
    I don't believe 9/11 was an islam terrorist job.
    I believe it was an INSIDE job.
    I think Israel is capable of taking care of herself as she did in other conflicts.
    Only now with this administration in power Israel wasn't capable of winning this war.
    VERY STRANGE.
    Who will be the FIRST target for muslim nukes? I'm thinking Israel. The muslims wouldn't mind seeing a 2nd Holocaust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW
    minnie wrote:

    Torture puts American lives at risk.If we stoop to the level of torture then our men & women will be tortured as well and I absolutely disagree with any country using torture.
    Do you honestly think Muslim terrorist aren't going to torture Americans just because we aren't torturing captured terrorist?
    I'd think having your head chopped off for being an infidel in Iraq could be considered torture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
    Quote Originally Posted by Reciprocity
    Quote Originally Posted by minnie
    Here a VIDEO POST DEBATE DUNCAN HUNTER

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETIg93H9eDs

    If some Terroist we captured knew the location of a Nuclear weapon that was about to detonated in a Major US city, Would i use waterboarding? Dam straight i would!
    If you use torture you became the same as a terrorist.I don't believe this is what America stands for.
    If you torture you will hear whatever you want.
    If you torture you cannot complain if they torture any one of us .
    I can see Minnie's point on this. If we're as bad as they are then what are we fighting for?

    But in the case Reciprocity came up with their would be NO CHOICE. You have to weigh the lives of hundreds of thousands of people vs. torture? It's no contest.
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    LOLOLOLOLOL YOU THINK YOU CAN CREATE CHANGE BY YOURSELF? HAHAHA! the truth is that giuliani will win the nomination while the bottom three goes back home. haha you alipac guys are funny! funny!!!
    Popcorn, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-I-am
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    But in the case Reciprocity came up with their would be NO CHOICE. You have to weigh the lives of hundreds of thousands of people vs. torture? It's no contest.
    What I'm telling allthe time is this is not an act or terrorism this was as inside job.
    here are the videos.explaining

    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.sw ... 5380093&hl

    http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.co ... html#Title

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ju ... pdavid.htm

    http://www.wireonfire.com/donpaul/911guiltdvd.html

    http://www.patriotchurch.org/redpill.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAK
    Need to send that to this Jeffery Tubin character. I couldn't believe he said this was a conspiracy theory. Another traitor...evidently!!! HE MUST KNOW!!!!
    He knows!! But I was wondering if anyone else noticed in the debate when Paul was asked that question did anyone else see the reaction of the rest of the canidates, I did because I was watching for it, almost all especially Fred and Gulie apeared very nervous, with lowerd heads they looked emabarrased, they were fussing and probably thinking please don't ask me that question.

    Peoples actions tell a lot about them. I think it is a shame they did not ask everyone of them that question! It should be brought out in these debates as it has a huge impact on this country and immigration.
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    I noticed that, too, SOSAD. It looked like they were holding their breath waiting for it to go away.
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