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06-10-2006, 06:52 PM #31
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What Hope meant is that she wonders why the Americans don't understand that we should NOT be worrying about the poor oppressed illegal aliens...we should be worrying about America...we all know that the Mexicans are socialists...and they will be as long as Americans are paying for everything...by the time they change their minds we will be deep into communism...
I agree with Crockett's Ghost that the jumping off point for socialism in our country started with FDR....or really got a boost with FDR...he was such a socialist...
And then here comes Johnson and his Great Society...what a mess...what an expensive worthless mess...enter the years of liberalism...astonishing government spending...breathtaking destruction of our rights...
MJ
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06-10-2006, 06:58 PM #32
Since we're on the subject, take a look at this site http://www.freedomtofascism.com/
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06-10-2006, 07:02 PM #33
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Originally Posted by hope2006
Bush is a globalist. He's simply using that which already exists.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-10-2006, 07:07 PM #34
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I loved their objectives...they're right in line with my hoped-for objectives. One of the best things that we could do for this country is get the hell out of the Federal Reserve. That's how they're robbing us...and it's also one of the reasons that JFK was assassinated...he wanted to get us out of that...
Back to the gold standard where the politicos have to stop manupulating ( and robbing us) via inflation and recessions.
I really liked that site...I can hardly wait for the movie...thank you for posting that link...
Annnnd...we need to get the UN out of the US...
MJ
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06-10-2006, 07:16 PM #35
No problem, I'm not a big fan of the federal reserve or the un either.
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06-10-2006, 07:48 PM #36Originally Posted by hope2006
He may run out of time, but Hillary (or McCain) will have 2 presidential terms to transition us to
North America Union ---> New World Order ---> Communism ---> One World Governance
or maybe the sequence is...
N. America Union ---> Communism ---> NWO ---> One World Governance
or maybe the sequence is...
N. American Union ---> The Communist Dictatorship of the New World Order
What makes you think either will win?
I want to be dead wrong about all this.
Coto
What part of "We don't owe our jobs to India" are you unable to understand, Senator?
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06-10-2006, 09:12 PM #37
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The problem, Coto, is that just about every single front-runner for the Presidency will be a member of the CFR or other globalist organization. We made the foolish error of granting a private banking cartel the authority to create (fake) money out of thin air, and now that cartel has created enough of that fake money to pretty much own everything, including our politicians. Even more outrageous is the credit/ debit system, wherein, lacking real money, credits are created by monetizing your signature, which is then bartered by creditors. They never actually pay any of the merchants with whom you use your credit, but merely offer them credits to your debits. You, on the other hand, have to pay real markers earned by your labor for those ephemeral debits (plus interest!). The upshot of all this is that the banking/credit establishment owns this government and it owns us. Let us not forget the words of Baron Mayer Rothschild, father of our current fraudulent banking system, when he said, "Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not who makes the laws."
I hate to say it, but we have to face the very real fact that our system is broke, and it ain't gonna be fixed any time soon. Most Americans are hopelessly in debt to the point that they will never see black ink on their personal ledger. Beyond their personal debt, they have unwittingly attached themselves to the federal bankruptcy via the franchise created by the SSN. Every credit or loan transaction represents a new debt that someone, by definition, will be unable to repay, given that new currency is created only when someone takes out a loan, but that repayment requires the return of all that currency PLUS interest. Since the Fed uses a fractional reserve system, everything above the interest payment is pure profit for the banking cartel. The result is that we have mortgaged our entire nation. So sure are the banks of our individual insolvency that they no longer release equitable title for property they finance, but rather provide only legal title while retaining equitable title. Same with your automobile. You never receive equitable title, even after the loan is paid off, but rather receive only certificate of title. This is true even if you pay cash, unless of course you happen to know the legal workaround.
What this means is that we have been defrauded out of an entire nation, and now interests contrary to our own are boldly calling the shots. Regardless of what we consider our status to be, as far as they are concerned, we are tenants and they are landlords. If we ever want our nation back, we are eventually going to have to take it. Because the government and the courts are bought and paid for, we will never prevail by simply proving that we have been defrauded. A prime example is Amendment XVI. The robber barons and thieving bankers were hell-bent on gaining access to our private property through prohibited direct taxation, so even though the amendment never garnered passage from enough states to pass, Congress simply pretended that it passed and the rest is history. When researchers produced the proof from the archives of enough states that rejected the amendment that proved it had not passed, the courts refused to rule on the case, calling it a "political issue." Similarly, the Supreme Court ruled in Brushaber v Union Pacific RR that, because the prohibition on an unapportioned direct tax had never been repealed, the new amendment could not create a new direct tax, but rather more narrowly defined an excise tax. This view was upheld in Eisner v Macomer, So. Pacific v Lowe, Staples v U.S., Conner v U.S., and a long list of other cases. Now folks, the tax as currently administered cannot be an excise tax, and the courts have said so. Yet you will find yourself in quite a pickle if you try to fight the IRS on the legitimacy of its theft (unless you really know the ropes). Worse yet, even though this nation's courts have clearly stated that the "income tax" as administered is not the tax ostensibly approved by Amendment XVI, and despite the fact that your government understands and is complicit in the entrapment scheme that actually facilitates the IRS's activities as a collection agent for foreign banks, good luck getting any of your friendly government employees to admit anything. What you have to eventually wrap your head around is that "your" government is no longer your government. That is not to say that every individual sent to Washington D.C. is part of the scam, but those who are not have no power and those who are have a death grip on the operation of this nation.
The long and short of it is that if we want to get our country back, we not only will have no help from our elected officials, but will actually be working against them on opposite sides of the struggle. I think that most Americans are too conceited to admit that they have been conned right out of their inheritance, but occasionally things like this immigration abomination may serve as eye-openers. I don't know what it's going to take to wake our citizens from their somnambulistic trance, but it had better happen soon.
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