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    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    Michelle,
    Before you go.
    Would you explain with alittle more detail exactly what it is about America or Americans that bore you?
    I have nothing against americans, I just think it's boring.
    the rules are so strict and insane here. I like Netherlands for being lenient and tolerant. I don't want 2 spend time in jail for smoking a joint. everything is so strict here, and I don't like that. no street life, no drinking a nice glass of alcohol in public. The set up of America is boring, all that urbanization makes me feel unsafe. And I posted here b4, and I do like some parts of america, and I told b4 that most Americans are good hearted people, I just don't fit in here. And I show my respect to America by giving up my US citizenship, I can keep both passports, but that's a slap in the face of the American people who have always been good to me. It's just the government I dislike. I came here when I was 16against my will, and that's why I'm upset. Please don;t take it personally

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    I can only be loyal to 1 country
    That's exactly how it should be. Hope you have a nice trip home...Goodbye and Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    cassie?
    No, michelle.
    I edited my last post to you.
    So, please read previous post again.
    I respect American people and show it by renouncing my citizenship.
    I'm not a parasite to take from America while loving another country.


    And I will leave you a nice and friendly message in Dutch:

    De planning was ook 15 juni, maar ik was 2 weken geleden ook al voor een week in Nederland. Koninginnedag vieren en mijn vriendinnen zien, en ik heb nooit zoveel gehuild toen ik weer terug naar Amerika ging, omdat ik in Nederland wilde blijven. Het is allemaal gewoon veel sneller gegaan dan ik had durven dromen. Eerst was het lente 2008, en ik kon gewoon heel snel werk vinden. Dinsdag 29 mei ga ik weg. Die ene week dat ik in Nederland was, hebben we mijn kamer ingericht. Ik huur een kamer bij een vriendin, die toch in haar eentje een appartement heeft
    met 3 slaapkamers. Ik ga pas in augustus beginnen met werken, maar ik heb dus mooi 10 weken vrij, om alle puntjes op de i te zetten. En rustig aan mijn oude vertrouwde leventje weer op te pakken.

    Ik zal ook mijn Amerikaans staatsburgerschap opgeven ( RENOUNCE my citizenship ) omdat ik voel aankomen dat Nederland, net als Duitsland, de dubbele nationaliteit zal afschaffen binnen enkele jaren. En ik kan op mijn Nederlandse paspoort altijd zonder visum Amerika bezoeken. Dus er veranderd heel weinig voor me, eigenlijk niets. Tja, ik kan niet meer in Amerika stemmen, maar dat maakt me niet uit. California gaat toch altijd naar de Democraten, en dat zal in 2008, 2012 niet anders zijn.

    Maar ik ga slapen.

    Liefs,

    Michelle

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    I don't want 2 spend time in jail for smoking a joint.
    Suppose thats where your priorities are, and of course in the nightlife and partying, well then go for it, cause we know how important it is to get high and party. I mean we Americans are so boring, we work ,we obey laws, we frown on prostitution, frown on use of illegal drugs.

    Party on dude!!!!!

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    TRANSLATED:
    Planning was June also 15, but I had been suffered 2 weeks also already for a week in the Netherlands. Koninginnedag celebrates and my girlfriends weerzien, and I never so much has cried then I to America went, because I in the Netherlands want remain. It all ordinary much have more rapidly gone than I had dare dreams. It firstly was spring 2008, and I could find simply complete fast work. Tuesday 29 May I leave. That one yielded that I was in the Netherlands, we my chamber has arranged. I rent a chamber at a girlfriend, who has nevertheless on her own an apartment with 3 sleep chambers. I will start just in august with work, but I have therefore beautiful 10 weeks rather, to put all puntjes on i. And quietly my old leventje trusted to to take up. I American staatsburgerschap also my will give up (RENOUNCE my citizenship) because I feel arrive that the Netherlands will abolish, just like Germany, double nationality within some years. And I am possible on my Dutch passport always without visa America visiting. Changed therefore there for me, in fact nothing very little. Tja, I can no longer vote in America, but that does not determine me. California nevertheless always go to the democrats, and that will not be in 2008.,2012 differently. But I will sleep. Liefs,
    Michelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth
    I don't want 2 spend time in jail for smoking a joint.
    Suppose thats where your priorities are, and of course in the nightlife and partying, well then go for it, cause we know how important it is to get high and party. I mean we Americans are so boring, we work ,we obey laws, we frown on prostitution, frown on use of illegal drugs.

    Party on dude!!!!!

    (But just not here)
    See you have been brainwashed. Only soft drugs are legal, not hard drugs, while even alcohol is a hard drug. Do you think that smoking a joint is more harmful than drinking 2 bottles of whiskey ??

    Prostitution, who is the government to decide what I do with my body ?
    I oppose street prostitution, but if I want to sell my body by doing escort and visit clients in upscale hotels, then it's consensual sex. I'm not a provider, just to explain that in america the governmentwant to control your body, and your individual freedom.

    The fact remains that the drug problems in America is higher than in The Netherlands, and I have lived in both countries.

    JAK:

    Thank you for wishing me good luck.

    mkfarnam:

    The translation is far from correct, stop using a translation machine.

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    Wish We You LUCK GOOD
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    Why are you blaming us for what our jackass lawmakers do?

    We don`t make the laws, we only follow them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkfarnam
    TRANSLATED:
    Planning was June also 15, but I had been suffered 2 weeks also already for a week in the Netherlands. Koninginnedag celebrates and my girlfriends weerzien, and I never so much has cried then I to America went, because I in the Netherlands want remain. It all ordinary much have more rapidly gone than I had dare dreams. It firstly was spring 2008, and I could find simply complete fast work. Tuesday 29 May I leave. That one yielded that I was in the Netherlands, we my chamber has arranged. I rent a chamber at a girlfriend, who has nevertheless on her own an apartment with 3 sleep chambers. I will start just in august with work, but I have therefore beautiful 10 weeks rather, to put all puntjes on i. And quietly my old leventje trusted to to take up. I American staatsburgerschap also my will give up (RENOUNCE my citizenship) because I feel arrive that the Netherlands will abolish, just like Germany, double nationality within some years. And I am possible on my Dutch passport always without visa America visiting. Changed therefore there for me, in fact nothing very little. Tja, I can no longer vote in America, but that does not determine me. California nevertheless always go to the democrats, and that will not be in 2008.,2012 differently. But I will sleep. Liefs,
    Michelle
    Your translation is far from correct, I will give the right one.
    It was my plan to return June 15th and I visited Holland 2 weeks ago for a week to celebrate Queensday and to see my friends again. I have never cried that much in my life when I had 2 return 2 the US, while I wanted 2 stay in Holland. Everything went faster than planned, more than I could ever wish for. I initially wanted to return spring 2008, but it was easy 4 me to find the jobs I wanted. I will leave Tuesday May 29th.
    That 1 week I spent in Holland, we arranged my room, I'm going to rent a room at my friend's place, she has 3 bedrooms anyway.

    I will start working in august so I will have 10 weeks of to get arranged everything perfectly and to get used to my life I lived 7 years ago.

    I will renounce my us citizenship bc I know that Holland, like Germany,
    will soon abolish the right on dual citizenship. And I can always visit the US on my dutch passport, nothing will actually change. I won't be able to vote anymore, but it doesn't matter to me, Ca will go for the Democrats in 2008, 2012.

    I'm going to sleep.

    Love,

    Michelle

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