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    BobC--it is beyond outrageous at this point. It's a failure to uphold the Oath of Office. I believe it falls into treason against the people of the United States, because the US will not be part of the new administering order except to the clean the streets and make sure the toilets flush.

    The man needs to be impeached. And I'm a died in the wool 4 generation Republican that's helped put Republicans in the United States Senate. These are Jack Danforth, no longer there, appointed to UN Ambassador, resigns suddenly for "personal reaons", something that man would never do unless something was "afoot". John Ashcroft, US Senate, outgoing Attorney General of the United States. Kit Bond, still in US Senate.

    I've known these men since I was a young girl and know there very well.

    OR thought I did.

    Something very big is going on and it's gonna be bad.

    The President and Vice President would have to be removed simultaneously because Dick Cheney not two months ago on the question of illegal immigration said on national television:

    "We can't do anything about 'em, because we don't know WHO they are, WHERE they are or WHAT they're doing."

    That is a stunning comment because I've learned through the New York Daily News Article that they know WHO, WHERE and WHAT about 7,200,000 HOUSEHOLDS because they filed tax returns with the IRS. The IRS knows, the Social Securit Administration knows, the Medicare knows, the Medicaid knows, and all 50 State Departments of Revenue know where at least 28,000,000 of them live and work These are the ones that work for large companies that issue W-2 forms on the wages and pay the taxes as if they were legal. Because they don't have social security numbers, a law passed in 1996 under CLINTON allowed illegal aliens to file taxes so their illegal employers could file W-2s and not mess up their payroll system and assigned them a special illegal alien tax id number!!!!

    Now, if the New York Daily News knows that and I know that from them, then the Vice President KNOWS the same thing!

    Why would he not?

    So if GOVERNMENT RECORDS in at least 5 different government agencies on forms signed by the aliens themselves show at least 28,000,000 illegal aliens assuming an average household of 4, then why are we being told that the best estimates are the Pew Hispanic Center estimate of 10,800,000!!

    There are as many I would presume that do not file tax returns as do. These guys standing on the street corner probably aren't big on paperwork. Drug dealers and gangs don't file paperwork either. Neither do those millions working cash under the table jobs or running their own businesses and enterprises in many cases or the millions that for whatever reason can't find a job finding themselves in the same situation as unemployed Americans.
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    Right on Judy

    Yeah something is going on. I don't have your political contacts but I have a bullchit detector that's world class--and I have been noticing the chaos in Bush's camp too.

    Regarding SS fraud--I do freelance art on the side and it's awfully funny that I mistakenly didn't report one job for $500 and the IRS instantly knew and wrote me wanting the tax money! And yet they just have no idea about illegal aliens working here. Gee let me pose a solution. Howzabout the IRS going through the database of SS numbers, and when they, say, find four or five hundred people filing under one ID number, then track those people down like they did me!

    This is beyond outrageous.

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    Re: Right on Judy

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    Howzabout the IRS going through the database of SS numbers, and when they, say, find four or five hundred people filing under one ID number, then track those people down like they did me!

    This is beyond outrageous.
    It seems simple but it isn't.If they go through their database of ss numbers there will be an ever bigger backlog of fraud for law enforcement.Before 1989 ever wallet/ID I had ever lost got back to me by someone finding it and dropping it in the mail or calling me.Since 1989 I've lost my ID/SS card quite a few times and have never got one back.And having a name like Esteves doesn't help.I'd hate to have to prove I'm me and in the meantime sit in jail.

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    Rick I didn't say it would be simple. But if we can fly spacecraft to Mars, I think we can figure out when 27 people are using the same SS number. In Denver (I think) just a few weeks ago some woman in the Department of Motor Vehicles was busted for issuing fake IDs. People like her are exactly who we need to nail. There is an entire underground system of human smuggling named "To Be" (in Spanish) that is said to be more efficient than UPS-- if people like Frosty Wooldridge can observe it in action, why can't the feds move in on it?

    They can, but they don't

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    That's right.

    The whole problem can be stopped and all those that have participated prosecuted and held accountable.

    The US Government has the power to protect the American People from this invasion.

    Instead it has used its power to cause it.

    WHY?

    Open Borders, Globalism, Dissolution of the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC
    Rick I didn't say it would be simple. But if we can fly spacecraft to Mars, I think we can figure out when 27 people are using the same SS number. In Denver (I think) just a few weeks ago some woman in the Department of Motor Vehicles was busted for issuing fake IDs. People like her are exactly who we need to nail. There is an entire underground system of human smuggling named "To Be" (in Spanish) that is said to be more efficient than UPS-- if people like Frosty Wooldridge can observe it in action, why can't the feds move in on it?

    They can, but they don't
    I'm just saying there's the possibility that every American citizen with a Spanish/Portuguese,and sometimes Italian surname (which will also include many non-Hispanics like Africans,Asians,Europeans,and Pacific Islanders) may have their daily lives intruded on because their idenity has been used without their knowledge.Yes the database would be a good thing however we might end up bogging down efforts on other more nescessary endeavors trying to cope with what the database`reveals.

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    Rick--I understand your apprehension but it is time to make some hard decisions. Fear of "what ifs" can paralyze us. Look at the histrionics around the Minute Men. NOTHING HAPPENED. I give Americans a lot of credit for not being the reactionary drooling racist retards the mainstream media has painted us as for decades.

    If you are here legally I will fight like a frikkin tiger on your behalf. We Americans need to remember how to love and protect each other.

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    Rick, we will all fight for each other. To the last man, woman and child. As Americans, we would rather be dead than live like caged animals. That's just who we are and have always been. Our brave men and women of the Armed Forces go to strange lands and risk everything just to share that concept of freedom and deomocracy. It is the reason the Americans are the one obstacle and have been for some years now to this Globalism Marxist Socialism Crap ever having a breath of life. They knew that. So what they have devised is a means they thought would work through the back door; to infiltrate with foreign nationals loyal to other governments.

    We are in very serious times, and the choices we make now determine the future of not only the United States but every other free nation on earth and any emerging free nations or any nation with a dream to be a free nation.

    Without the United States, freedom and democracy will crumble in a year world wide.

    We wll all, not just Americans, but all peoples of the world will be drones of commerce in a Marxist Socialism.

    I'd rather be dead.
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    The Marxist/Socialist leaders are all Capitalists-even the leader of north Korea (the supposed last true Communists).

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    Yes, they are capitalists in the oligarchy--they are the handlful of companies that control all the profits. The oligarchy then rules the masses, us, and pays whatever they determine is a proper allocation of their profits for the resource of human labor or as they now refer to it "human capital".

    Capital has taken on an ugly meaning these days.

    Political Capital.....where did we hear that recently!

    President Bush after his re-election.

    I wasn't sure what he meant when he said it.

    Now I do.

    And I voted for him!!
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