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    Feds Enable Arsonists, Target Oath Keepers Protecting Ferguson Businesses

    Feds Enable Arsonists, Target Oath Keepers Protecting Ferguson Businesses

    Feds tell police to stop “domestic terrorists” providing free security

    Mikael Thalen
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    November 30, 2014

    Police in Ferguson, Missouri, have been pressured by the federal government to stop members of Oath Keepers from guarding local homes and businesses targeted by arsonists.

    Oath Keepers
    , an organization consisting of former and current military, police and first responders, dispatched several members to Ferguson the day after the Grand Jury announcement to provide free security to those in need.

    Almost immediately after receiving praise in a local paper for protecting vulnerable residents, Oath Keepers standing watch on top of a locally-owned bakery witnessed a three-man sniper team exiting a silver Suburban on the ground below.

    The three men were then seen setting up sniper hides in a nearby building before aiming their rifles directly at the group. Across the street, on top of the fire hall, a seperate sniper team began setting up as well.

    A Missouri Oath Keeper named Sam Andrews, who spoke briefly with Infowars, immediately called Unified Command to find out why snipers had taken up an aggressive position against them.

    According to Andrews, local police, a large portion of which have been supportive of the Oath Keepers, were completely unaware of the feds movements.
    Shortly after, a St. Louis County police officer appeared on scene and began telling Andrews that business owners wanted them off their roofs.

    After calling the store owners, Andrews and his team quickly confirmed that no such request was ever made. That is when the officer admitted that his chief was being pressured by the feds to keep Oath Keepers from protecting buildings.

    Further reports revealed that the feds had told police earlier that day that Oath Keepers were “domestic terrorists,” an unsurprising claim given the federal government’s baseless targeting of the group.

    The owner of a Chinese restaurant receiving free protection was reportedly confronted by federal agents also and told to kick the Oath Keepers out.

    Failing to remove the businesses’ and homes’ much needed protection, other officers began telling Andrews that his group was in violation of state law. Police claimed the group needed to posses security licenses, despite the fact that the law only applies to paid security, not volunteers.

    “We’re volunteers. We read the statute. We had three attorneys read the statute,” Andrews told Infowars.

    Andrews began speaking with other volunteers not affiliated with the Oath Keepers, including a group of young Ferguson residents protecting a local gas station, and learned that none had been approached or told to obtain licenses by police.

    Stewart Rhodes, founder and president of Oath Keepers, told Infowars that the American people are being presented with a false choice by those running the show in Ferguson.

    “They want to create a false paradigm… They are presenting a false choice between lawlessness, looting, arson, assault, murder on the one side, unrestrained, or a hyper-militarized police state on the other,” Rhodes said. “They are failing to do the intelligent thing and protect businesses without trampling on rights.”
    Rhodes’ remarks cause even more concern in light of comments made by Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder, who accused President Obama of ordering a National Guard stand down as Ferguson businesses burned to the ground last week.

    Ferguson Mayor James Knowles also stated that his request for National Guard help was turned down by Governor Jay Nixon, a Democrat ally of the President.
    Andrews and the other volunteers, who even spent Thanksgiving pouring water on rooftops in case arsonists and rioters returned, are now shifting tactics in order to continue protecting life, liberty and property in Ferguson.

    Watch: November 27 interview with Stewart Rhodes and Sam Andrews on the Oath Keepers experience in Ferguson

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    The Nuclear Option -- Call Ferguson Demonstrations What They Are: 'Obama Riots'

    The Nuclear Option -- Call Ferguson Demonstrations What They Are: 'Obama Riots'



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    To quote the cheery, lighted banner twinkling though the tear gas in Ferguson on Monday night, "Season's Greetings, America."

    It is so wonderful in these troubling times that town elders and the politicians who are running this show didn't hang up something offensive, like "Happy Thanksgiving." Or "Merry Christmas."

    "Season's Greetings" just hits that sweet spot, like sugared holiday cookies that celebrate everybody's special season, made-up or not. Cookies shaped like Stars of David, the continent of Africa, Christmas trees, crescent moons and fists of black power.

    That's when you really have a parade! It's enough to bring tears to your eyes. Which is why everybody brought along their gas masks.

    Now I realize that some in the media have taken grave exception to people referring to the riots in Ferguson as the "Ferguson riots." And I must say that I agree with them. They really are not the "Ferguson riots."

    They are the "Obama riots."

    President Barack Obama will forever rightly hold a distinguished place in American history. That can never be taken away from him.

    But it is also true that he owns every single bit of these riots over the tragic killing of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. He owns the discontent. He owns the ignorance. He owns the mayhem. He owns the looting.

    This rioting, it's not about Ferguson. It's not about Michael Brown. It's not about Darren Wilson.

    After all, an independent grand jury evaluated all the evidence, heard from all the witnesses and asked every question 12 responsible Americans could possibly think up. And they determined that, however unfortunate, Brown's death was not a police murder.

    The American grand jury system is not perfect and has not always been above and beyond corruption. But this system of justice works better than any other system of justice devised by man. And the fact that all these looting rioters haven't the faintest knowledge of this proves that Mr. Obama has personally failed miserably at educating and leading the very people he swears he wants to help the most.

    The truth is that these riots are about so much more than Brown. They are about the monstrous discontent over every aspect of life for so many people finally boiling over.

    Mr. Obama ran and won two presidential campaigns on promises that he would heal these very people. It was either stupidity or dishonesty to make such reckless promises to such vulnerable people just to win a couple of political elections.

    The rioting lays bare the complete failure that is this presidency. In the end, the only thing this president has accomplished is proving that the American people, for all their flaws, would elect a black president. And then re-elect him despite a very disappointing first four years.

    Nothing better encapsulated Mr. Obama's personal failure like the split screens carried on every channel showing the president addressing the situation from the White House alongside images of the situation unfolding in Ferguson.

    "We are a nation built on the rule of law," he said as protesters smashed the windows of a police cruiser and rocked it back and forth, trying to tip it over.

    "We do have work to do here," he said as protesters surged toward police lines and smoke began billowing toward them.

    And the police, Mr. Obama said, "they need to work with the community, not against the community." Meanwhile, hissing canisters of tear gas skittered down the street.

    The protesters, they must understand, justice "won't be done by throwing bottles." Just then, somebody gets hit in the head with a bottle.

    This, the president said, is "an opportunity for us to seize the moment and turn this into a positive situation."

    Beside him, on the screen, a reporter is trying to talk into the camera, wearing a gas mask. "If we can get some water," the reporter chokes.

    Another reporter asks on air for the network to invest in better gas masks.

    Luckily for everyone, President Obama took only one question and quickly exited the stage.

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    Ferguson Agitator Warns USA Today: Some 'Going to Have to Die,' 'There Should Be Bloodshed'

    by Warner Todd Huston 30 Nov 2014, 6:57 AM PDT



    USA Today
    proclaims the aftermath of the shooting of a black teen in Ferguson, Missouri is a "defining moment for race relations in USA."

    Sadly, the paper also gave space for one protester to call for murder to be committed for the "cause."



    Like many in the media, the paper seems to accept at face value that Ferguson is a seminal moment for race in America based on the hyperbolic claim that little has changed in race relations. And in its story the paper quotes a woman who lives in Ferguson just to that point.

    "This is 2014, and we are still confronting the problems that our mothers and fathers confronted back in the civil rights era," the paper reports.

    This irresponsible narrative does not help solve the problems that do exist in race relations today. It only exacerbates them.

    Certainly USA Today is correct when it writes, "The anger in the African-American community" over the non-indictment of officer Wilson "hasn't subsided." This in unquestionable.

    Still, even in this paper there are no concrete goals or solutions presented. The ever present shout to "fight for justice" and the need for "diversity" are included in the story, but what does this really mean? The story does not say.

    But the paper does note that the message is muddled.

    "Even in Ferguson, some protesters said there were disparate groups with differing messages that made it difficult to get everybody on the same page," the paper says, "as has happened with the Occupy Wall Street protest movement that began in 2011 against social and economic inequality worldwide."

    Unfortunately, the paper also gives room for a man calling for deaths for the "cause."

    "Some people are going to have to die for the cause," Jay Daniels, 27, of Charlotte said. "It's sad to say, but this is the new civil rights movement for our generation, and there will be casualties and there should be bloodshed."

    It seems irresponsible for USA Today to throw fuel on the fire by repeating the call for bloodshed for a "cause" that is neither clearly defined nor easily understood even by those who feel aggrieved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME View Post
    Ferguson Mayor James Knowles also stated that his request for National Guard help was turned down by Governor Jay Nixon, a Democrat ally of the President. Andrews and the other volunteers, who even spent Thanksgiving pouring water on rooftops in case arsonists and rioters returned, are now shifting tactics in order to continue protecting life, liberty and property in Ferguson.
    Toxic 'Bama will let the protesters burn down a few businesses, to distract them from the consequences of his executive amnesty. All Americans will be harmed by executive amnesty, but the poorest Americans will be hit the hardest.

    Some of the newly legal illegals will undercut the poorest Americans for entry level jobs. So those Americans who are already suffering the most, because of illegal aliens, will have to endure another generation of confusion and anger.

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    I posted on another thread that in the CNN television coverage, there were hordes of police just standing around watching the looters run away with their booty while the buildings burned. It was the eeriest thing I'd ever seen. So I've since decided that some if not all of the arson and a bunch if not all of the looting were performed by undercover cops to create an anti-protestor sentiment. That's the only explanation of why cops didn't chase the looters with the same vengeance Darren Wilson chased Michael Brown and why they would be opposed to civilians like the Oath Keepers guarding the stores.
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    I posted on another thread that in the CNN television coverage, there were hordes of police just standing around watching the looters run away with their booty while the buildings burned. It was the eeriest thing I'd ever seen. So I've since decided that some if not all of the arson and a bunch if not all of the looting were performed by undercover cops to create an anti-protestor sentiment. That's the only explanation of why cops didn't chase the looters with the same vengeance Darren Wilson chased Michael Brown and why they would be opposed to civilians like the Oath Keepers guarding the stores.
    I was thinking the same thing Judy. Much earlier in this mess police had also told residents that they couldn't protect their property and to provide their own protection. A lot at play here and we may never know all the facts
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    Police shut down mysterious 'Oath Keepers' guarding rooftops in downtown Ferguson

    Police shut down mysterious 'Oath Keepers' guarding rooftops in downtown Ferguson






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    A member of the Oath Keepers (who did not want to be identified) watch the area north of the police station from the rooftop of buildings along South Forissant Road in the early hours of Friday, Nov. 28, 2014, in Ferguson. Photo by Huy Mach, hmach@post-dispatch.com


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    FERGUSON • Following a night of arson fires and bashed storefronts that hit close to home, Greg Hildebrand stood naked Tuesday, drying off from a needed shower, when he noticed somebody on the rooftop.
    “I opened the window and said, ‘Hey, can I help you?’” said Hildebrand, 35, a website developer.
    The man said he was security and would be up there at night with others to protect the pocket of second-story apartments and lower-level storefronts near the Ferguson Police Department. A day earlier, rioters had broken out windows below Hildebrand’s apartment in the 100 block of South Florissant Road and torched a nearby beauty supply store.
    “I am in the middle of a difficult spot,” Hildebrand said. “I feel a lot better having those guys up on the roof.”
    But he wasn’t clear exactly who “those guys” were or where they came from.
    Puzzled and alarmed protesters have wondered, too — some accusing the mysterious guards in military fatigues of being in the Ku Klux Klan.
    In fact, they are volunteers affiliated with a 35,000-member national organization called Oath Keepers. Yale Law School graduate and libertarian Stewart Rhodes said by telephone from Montana that he founded the group in 2009 to protect constitutional rights, including those of protesters confronted by what he described as overly militarized police.
    Police questioned group members early in the week and allowed them to stay. But Saturday, after media inquiries, St. Louis County police officers ordered the Oath Keepers to leave the rooftops.
    Threatened with arrest for operating without a license, the volunteers argued but eventually left their positions early Saturday, Rhodes said.
    “We are going to go back as protesters,” Rhodes said Saturday afternoon.
    Rhodes, who said he is Mexican-American, stressed that Oath Keepers is not anti-government. He said the volunteers handling rooftop security in Ferguson were current or former government employees and first responders, many who have intense military, police and EMS training.
    “We thought they were going to do it right this time,” Rhodes said of government response to the grand jury decision released Monday in the Michael Brown case. “But when Monday rolled around and they didn’t park the National Guard at these businesses, that’s when we said we have got to do something.
    “Historically, the government almost always fails to protect people,” he added.
    Justine Sharrock, reporting for Mother Jones magazine in 2010, wrote in an in-depth story about how the group is hard to pin down: “In the months I’ve spent getting to know the Oath Keepers, I’ve toggled between viewing them either as potentially dangerous conspiracy theorists or as crafty intellectuals with the savvy to rally politicians to their side. The answer, I came to realize, is that they cover the whole spectrum.”
    In the wake of Monday’s grand jury announcement, Oath Keepers put out a national request to members to help in Ferguson. Volunteers showed up from Nebraska, Texas and Indiana. On Thursday, one volunteer had an “infidel” patch on his Kevlar vest and would say only that he came from “the north.”
    They wouldn’t say how many people were part of the effort or exactly where they were placed. But they seemed to be mainly focused on a strip of South Florissant Road two blocks north of the police station that includes a Chinese restaurant, dentist office, bakery and the apartments.
    “We were sick in our gut we couldn’t be here sooner,” said John Karriman of Joplin, Mo., a state leader of Oath Keepers who teaches police tactics. “We are here to volunteer our time and make sure everybody stays safe.”
    Another leader, who would give only his first name, Sam, described himself as a weapons engineer from the St. Louis area who has done security contracting for the U.S. government. He said he was motivated to help after seeing a CNN story featuring extensive damage to Natalie’s Cake’s & More, which also helped generate thousands of dollars in donations for the small business.
    Sam said he contacted owner Natalie Dubose and told her he was going to secure her store and others.
    “She started crying,” Sam said.
    Oath Keepers boarded up a bunch of the storefronts and started night rotations on several rooftops. Sam said he vetted volunteers to ensure there weren’t any “racists” or “people with an ax to grind.” He said he picked volunteers who “have seen the elephant and are calm under fire.”
    Fearing more arsonists, Oath Keeper volunteers kept buckets of water, fire extinguishers and other nonlethal weapons on the rooftops. Some are also armed with rifles that aren’t available at Walmart and Cabela’s.
    The volunteers said they were well aware of the risk to life that arson can play and the legal right to stop it from happening.
    Group volunteers say they are confident they have helped protect property and lives since they arrived.
    Victor Clark, a dentist at Ferguson Dental on South Florissant Road, said he was happy to have the Oath Keepers’ free assistance. He wants to reopen his business soon. On Monday, rioters shattered the front door and window, and stole dental needles and anesthetic.
    Then Oath Keepers showed up out of the blue. “We gave them our keys,” he said. “We didn’t know that much about them, but we got a feeling of trust. You have to do something to protect our building.”


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    How the Missouri DA rigged the Grand Jury in the Ferguson case



    Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury

    Published on Nov 27, 2014
    Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury
    In the Rewrite, Lawrence looks at a major correction the assistant prosecutors had to make to the grand jury in the Michael Brown case.





    How the Missouri DA
    rigged the Grand Jury in the Ferguson case


    Reprehensible immoral behavior


    Grand Juries almost always call for a trial
    unless they are blatantly lied to

    What the two crooked ADAs told the jury about the law when they were asked direct legal questions by the jury:

    "As far as you need to know, you don't need to worry about that."

    "We don't want to get into a law class."

    This was no accident. It was calculated in advance by the DA and executed by his two amoral stooges who, believe me, will be richly rewarded for their villainy.

    I assume you know that the killer cop - who will never go to trial - had his legal bills paid for by tax payers, continued to receive full pay from the time he pulled the trigger, and was the recipient of at least $400,000 in donations by "concerned citizens."

    How can anyone be surprised that some people are angry about this? -

    How the DA tricked the Grand Jury
    the Ferguson case

    How do you get normal people to
    say that the shooting of an unarmed
    man does not merit a public trial?

    You "accidentally" lie to them about
    the law.

    How the criminals in the DA's office
    rigged a Grand Jury....

    Video:

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    Ferguson pulled the wool away from our eyes
    Police violence in America




    This must stop!

    If you don't know what's been happening in Ferguson, Missouri, you've probably been living under a rock.

    This clip, however, frames the situation in human terms, with beautiful watercolor illustrations.

    It's impossible not to be angry, but this clip also makes it impossible not to be heartbroken.

    It also gives a sense of hope that things can change.

    The people of Ferguson will not give up - this is just the beginning of their fight.


    One thing for sure about
    Ferguson.

    It shined a national
    spotlight on the problem
    of police violence.

    So what are we going
    to do about it?

    Video:

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