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    Well I don't agree that this resembles anything regarding Nazi Germany--this is all new territory. I think what we're seeing here is two HUGE issues colliding with each other, each requiring some pretty freaky "solutions"

    1. Corporate greed--nothing's ever good enough. They have to keep expanding, making more money whatever the cost to our social fabric. Corporate America is becoming a monster.

    2. Third World economic disaster caused by overpopulation. Western Nations are being over-run by the Third World. Third World Nations are failures so the people are fleeing. If we think we can save the whole world, we are seriously delusional. We are outnumbered ten thousand to one.

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    Hi Folks; Remember, hitler was a meth freak, as were many who surrounded him. It drove him insane, as it will anyone that uses it continuously.

    Given ws' penchant for amphetimines, one has to wonder what will happen to this "reformed" user, now that extreme pressure is coming.

    Watch w, the "dry drunk" carefully, as this pressure mounts, with few good options at hand.

    hitler did not run Germany in the end, and I am sure that w has powerful forces compelling him to act as he does. I regularly pity him, being as Christian as I can about it. cheers glenn

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    Well, naturalglenn--pity would be warranted in his case!
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    I believe if you would read Mein Kampf, you will find that Hitler had the ideas which led to the Holocaust and WWII firmly in mind long before the Reichstag Fire.

    Further, there were certain social principles which he did not originate, which had to be accepted by the citizenry as a whole in order for these events to come to fruition.. Hitler was not the only madman, there was a whole nation of them. Unfortunately, many of these same principles which made the holocaust virtually inevitable, are being accepted as "good and true" by a large number of our people today.

    Bush is most definitely not one of my favorite people, by any stretch of the imagination. But making comparisons to Hitler makes one appear in need of a tin foil hat.

    Say it if ya wish.. it is not MY credibility being blown.

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    Give it some time Don! That's all it took.

    Forgetting the War Crimes huh? DU can't be avoided, people will still be talking about after were dead, as it will still be affecting them, by then world wide. Those looking back will define the origins of such policy "madmen".

    Besides, I am only comparing hitler and w in the drug usage dept.

    There are no similarities with regards to "success" as bush isn't having very much, so in that dept. he's no hitler.

    Credibility? What will any who supported this guy have when it is over? Even now, I can't find people who will admit voting for him let alone support him.

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    Granted the US and our leader are not currently like Hitler was as he murdered millons of Jews. But do you really think that Hitler started out putting people in gas chambers, etc. Everything starts out slowly and builds. It is up to us through a study of the history to see the direction that our country is going in and to stop it, before we wake up one day and the US is the Nazi version of Germany.


    Let's compare and contrast Bush and Hitler

    Hitler at first was thought to be a good Christian man with Christian values. He even told the German people that he was a Christian.

    Bush has told the American people that he is a Christian and has Christian values.

    The Reichstag burned down giving Hitler the extraordinary powers that he needed in order to establish his dictatorship. This was staged in order for Hitler to gain power.

    911 occurred allowing Bush to push the Patriot Act through Congress. Nullifying the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This was staged in order for Bush (and those who work behind the scenes) to gain power.

    In Germany Hitler's argument that people who were mentally retarded, disabled, etc needed to be put out of their misery worked and these people were murdered.

    Today in the US we stand by and watch as people who we deem as not having a quality of life are denied food and water and starved to death. We even have the media telling us that starvation and dehydration is a painless way to die.

    After 911 - In the US we are not allowed to protest our leader. Instead we are forced to stand miles away from where he will be in FREE SPEECH ZONES (that are caged off). Is this freedom?

    On the UK now after the July Terrorist attacks they now also have FREE SPEECH ZONES.

    How convenient. But I guess I am just a tin foil freak because I choose to look at what's going on, do my own research and come to a conclusion that is not what the mainstream media is force-feeding us every day.

    I could go one, but why bother. If reading the above has not changed your mind nothing I say will do so. Of course when you are being rounded up because you protested the government enforced rations, or corruption you won't be able to say that you weren't warned.


    If you tell a lie over and over eventually enough people will believe it to be the truth.


    By the way Tommy Thompson former Secretary of Health & Human Services announced a couple of weeks ago that he was getting the Verichip implanted in his arm. But I guess that's one for the tin foil archives too.

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    Very interesting thoughts, Dee. Guess I'll have to don a tin foil hat.

    A Verichip implant? Scary!

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    Thanks Dee!

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    Sorry guys, but I disagree. What's happening in this nation now is completely NEW territory. Comparing what's happening now to Hitler's regime makes us look goofy, IMO. I really get uncomfortable when people act like the world has something to gain from "destroying America." I think that's nonsense. America funds the world, so destroying us, intentionally, is assigning the whole world to a hopeless future.

    I see this illegal immigration issue as the whole captitalism thing pushed to the ugliest extreme. In other words--yeah bringing in millions of illiterate, desperate Third World people who'll work for basically slave labor rates will reduce the bottom line across the boards. But for how long?

    It's not an evil plot. But it's a desperate plot.

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    America funds the world, so destroying us, intentionally, is assigning the whole world to a hopeless future.
    BobC--that is correct. That is the whole plot of Globalism.

    In other words--yeah bringing in millions of illiterate, desperate Third World people who'll work for basically slave labor rates will reduce the bottom line across the boards. But for how long?
    Forever, BobC. That is the whole point of Globalism.

    BobC...you need to research Globalism. It's Marxist Lenin Socialism. A good place to start would be to understand how this socio-economic strategy works on a nation would be to study the former Soviet Union. Then, to understand how this system works globally, study some of the nations "occupied" by the Soviet Union.

    Another place to understand how Globalism will work is to do a search on the UN Millennium Agenda for Global Governance and see how they plan to arrange the rights of Gobal Civil Society world-wide. Their next meeing is in September....next month.

    BobC....we do fund the world through consumption, but we aren't doing it with real dollars, we're doing with BORROWED DOLLARS. In otherwords, our SHIP isn't solvent. The US and the American People are going bankrupt.

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