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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    You conveniently left out the fact that he had just committed a strong armed robbery at the market when he grabbed a handful of cigars and walked out without paying for them, and an assault and battery when he grabbed the store worker by the neck when he tried to stop him. He wasn't the little angel you want to pretend he was. He was a thug.
    I didn't mention it because in this country you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and since he was murdered by Darren Wilson for calling Wilson a pussy before there was even probable cause to arrest him for anything that may have happened at the cigar store, we'll never know if he was guilty of your accusation or not, and even if he was, the punishment for stealing cigars or strong arming a clerk isn't street execution by cop. And no prosecutor would even bother with a case against Brown for stealing $10 worth of cigars and the "strong arming" is nothing but misdemeanor assault that wouldn't even call for a day in jail. I don't know where you've been but prosecutors don't waste their time on this piddling crap. The fact is Brown wasn't armed and posed no lethal threat to Darren Wilson which makes his murder a bad and wrongful shooting on every level by the cop.

    Either we believe in our system of due process of law or we don't and cops aren't exempt from it. After all, they are the ones paid to uphold it. Do you really want cops selling out our constitutional rights the same way our treasonous politicians are selling out our jobs and economy? Seriously?!!! Who do you think the cops work for anyway? The treasonous politicians selling out our jobs and economy. Duh.
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    Check this out JohnDoe2. Do you agree with this? A police organization demanding an apology from NFL Rams players who waged their own protest at a game? Seriously?!! Cops are out of control. They have somehow decided they're above the law, above reproach, above scrutiny or criticism. This is disgusting.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/01...guson-protest/

    Roorda also played down the notion that the players were exercising their right to free speech, saying ""I know that there are those that will say that these players are simply exercising their First Amendment rights. Well I've got news for people who think that way, cops have first amendment rights too, and we plan to exercise ours.


    "I'd remind the NFL and their players that it is not the violent thugs burning down buildings that buy their advertiser's products," Roorda added. "It's cops and the good people of St. Louis and other NFL towns that do. Somebody needs to throw a flag on this play. If it's not the NFL and the Rams, then it'll be cops and their supporters."
    More proof cops have no respect for our civil rights like due process of law and free speech and don't know their place which makes them not only narcissistic and intolerant, but dangerous to a free nation of free people.

    This group of cops from St. Louis stood around and watched the looters run away with their booty and buildings burn, the only explanation for which is their cohorts set the fires and looted the stores to create an anti-protestor sentiment. Their "place" is to protect the stores from arson and looting like the Oath Keepers did and protect our civil rights, yet they didn't even try to do that and now they want to take a stand against the Rams protest?! Seriously?!!!
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    Wow. Some one on this thread id blaming the cops for young black teens being shot. Let's go down the line. Individually instead of treating this as an epidemic. Mike Brown-It's on tape that he stole and assaulted the store clerk. How much evidence do you need? I'll be damned if I get shot with my own gun by someone charging at me. Darren Wilson didn't shoot him for calling him a pussy. He was shot for trying to wrestle Wilson's gun from him. Although I bet Brown is singing a different tune in hell. Wilson wasn't a pussy. This had nothing to do with snivel rights and everything to do with Mr. Wilson preserving his own life.
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    How about Tamir Rice? Dumb-ass kid pointing a gun, real or not, at passersby. Doesn't want to show his hands. Dead. Personal responsibility, and a little common sense and he'd be alive. Judy, did you not see the blacks day after day dancing, hurling racial slurs such as honky and cracker and pig, sticking up their middle fingers in police faces, and even assaulting the police. Who the hell do think you are? You have failed to mention that no black people are ever charged with hate crimes even through black are 7 times more likely to attack whites. I could go on for days with case after case of torture and rape and brutality against whites by blacks, but you'd give them a free pass.
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    Judy. You are on the wrong site. There are plenty of anti-white, communist, anti-police sites for you to join. You're a troll looking to derail our movement. Go to hell with Mike Brown and his ilk.
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    And this from another peace loving black who doesn't want blacks prosecuted for the crimes they commit.

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    Citing an NYPD analysis of stats for the first six months of the year, Kelly said Wednesday that 96% of shooting victims are black or Hispanic — and in 97% of all shootings, the trigger was pulled by other blacks and Hispanics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Check this out JohnDoe2. Do you agree with this? A police organization demanding an apology from NFL Rams players who waged their own protest at a game? Seriously?!! Cops are out of control. . .
    If I owned the Rams I would solve this problem.
    I don't own the Rams, or run the police department, so this is not a problem I can solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    . . . no prosecutor would even bother with a case against Brown for stealing $10 worth of cigars and the "strong arming" is nothing but misdemeanor assault that wouldn't even call for a day in jail. I don't know where you've been but prosecutors don't waste their time on this piddling crap . . .
    1. Missouri Man Faces 30-Year Prison Term for Stealing 52-Cent Doughnut
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      The push is being treated as minor assault, which transforms a misdemeanor shoplifting charge to a
      strong-armed robbery with a potential prison term of five to 15 years. Given Masters' criminal past, prosecutors could boost that sentence to 30 years to life...
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