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    Governor activates National Guard

    I know we've discussed this on a seperate thread and I wasn't sure if the State had the control of the national guard.

    While talking with my state rep I asked and he told me the governors of the state can activate the national guard but the President could federalize it ...

    if that's the case, why hasn't the Governors of Arizona, Texas, California and Nevada activated the guard to the borders?
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    Mamie--I thought Governors had control over the National Guards. They are like state militias.

    Why Haven't They?

    Darn good question. I would suspect because most of the Governors are Globalists and if they are Democratic Party Governors, very difficult with the Fords, Rockefellers, AFL-CIO, ACLU (ready to call you racist), Southern Poverty Law Conference (ready to call you racist), to be the first one up until now.

    Governors may not have known how the Americans felt about this until now.

    GOVERNORS!!!!

    Wake UP!!

    The Line has been drawn in the sand. Either you are with US or you are against US.

    Get those National Guards ACTIVATED to the borders and save your Nation!!

    In the remote possibility that you didn't know you were a "puppet on the string" of the BeanHead Traitors, KNOW IT NOW.

    Go to this link https://www.alipac.us/ftopict-2306.html

    This paper on the Open Borders Lobby (the Globalists) which will describe in detail how those with more money that the US Government have over the past 35 years been working diligently to buy our Institutions designed to protect us as Americans and the sovereignty of the United States to accomplish a new world order of Globalism = Marxist Socialism = Global Elite at the Top and everyone else Drones of Commerce.

    SAVE YOUR STATE and HELP US SAVE THE NATION!!

    Get your troops to the border and enforce American Immigration Law---NOW!!

    You've got the power and resources to STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION in its tracks today.

    IF you don't use it, then....well.....we'll know what side of the line in the sand you're on. If you've been on the wrong side, step over it. It's not too late to go down in history as HERO instead of a TRAITOR!

    Lets go GUVS, Mamie found it!!

    Use it.
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    I can't believe the Governors of the States are sitting in their mansions and doing nothing! I think that's why I was thinking they were federal ...

    it's a shame our elected officials are more concerned with re-election than defending their country...

    there is nothing "racist" about being an American Patriot ... even Arnold spoke out in defense of the Minuteman Project, but he's probably afraid of a riot if he sent the guard to protect the border of California
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    You guys have the borders and we have the most inept AIRPORTS! Oh, let's not forget the ability to get into a dingy and take a nice afternoon row over to Maine for a picnic!

    There isn't an inch of the circumfrence of the country that's being protected properly
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    When you activate the National Guard as the Governor of a State, you have done a whole bunch of things all at once.

    1. The State pays for the Guard. Ouch is an understatment here.

    2, The State pays for the Jail Time, and while that would save money, the Feds come out, take a look, and say.. yep.. they are illegal aliens... let them go. And the State has to let them go at this point. the Feds don't have the detention centers they need, and they will not pay for the jail time in the State, County, and city jails. That is a consequence of negligence by the Democratic Party under Clinton, and the Republican Party under Bush. And I think that tells us a very ugly story about congress.

    3. The taxes you lose with a non productive citizens in the National Guard is big money. But add this: the Guard, if I am not mistaken, and would like to know, must then supply benefits to the Guard Member and to the families of the Guard.
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    There are legal issues galore, and family issues, and immigration law issues... more, more, more.

    What can be done is to take military units that do survailence and apply them to the border. They could also be used directly ON the border protecting a wall, but that gets difficult over time, and again, expensive.

    The Federal Government thought they could arrange an invasion... get a couple of 40 million people in place.. say my goodness.. and then provide amnesty. The problem turned out to be the illegal aliens were very, very expensive items to keep and things are not working out well in the processes. But the National Guard is just not a player: citizen patrol may be. But very specifically, bounties on illegal aliens, and a privatized and motivated civilian Border Patrol may well be super good.
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    End of story, the three ways we really have of getting things done seem to me to be... National I.D. Fine the dickens out of employers. Bounties for employers who use illegal aliens, and employees who are illegal aliens.

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    Shaw--I agree with you that on a long term basis the National Guards would not be the best long term guards because they are reserved for emergencies. But this is an emergency. That is what they are for. There is no greater emergency in my experience than this flood of aliens into the United States. The National ID isn't going to keep them out. It may help regulate the round up...for lack of a better term....for it won't keep them out. The flow has to STOP. It has to STOP.

    The border patrol isn't ready; and won't be. Check my article on DRO that I posted and on ICE.

    Until they are ready, National Guard is the right group to STOP IT!!

    The Minutemen want the National Guard, too, and said they weren't leaving until the National Guard got there. I believe they've researched it and the Governors need to do what they asked for and get National Guard troops to the Border.

    National Guards are experienced with civilian matters. Their training is diferent than regular Armed Services.

    National Guard troops handle guarantines, floods, all types of civilian emergencies. They are very well trained in such matters. They are trained in riot control and many appropriate endearvors pertinent to this brewing soon to boil issue on the ground. They have all types of equipment as well. In fact they are loaded with aircraft, helicopters, jeeps, tanks, emergency supplies, everything needed to control a border and an invasion of their area. That's why we have them. That is actually their primary duty....going to Iraq was not really the primary duty of a member of the National Guard. They are supposed to be here guarding the Nation.
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    The enormity of the problem is the biggest part of the problem. This is not a simple matter of pushing a ball over the edge of a hill and getting it rolling. This ball is huge, and it will affect every nation on the planet. It is naive to think any politician wants to sign on to a piece of legislation that may be looked at in the future as having come down on the wrong side of the issue.

    It will take the majority of citizens crying out to stop what is going on to make our elected representatives take the action needed. Getting the word out to others, urging friends, family, co-workers to look at the situation and recognize it as the problem it is, and then motivating them to take action of some sort is the stage of the process we're at right now. Until our representatives really feel the pressure of the people, there isn't much to force their hand one way or the other.

    The glass is still half full though. There is a lot more discussion going on now, so folks are waking up to what is happening. The tide is turning and it will turn further. Just keep adding weight to the scales and eventually they'll tip in our favor.
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    Does anyone know the ACTUAL LAW that states we MUST LET THEM GO? I keep getting stumped by this one and would appreciate help here.

    The State pays for the Jail Time, and while that would save money, the Feds come out, take a look, and say.. yep.. they are illegal aliens... let them go
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    There is no law that states they must be let go. On the contrary, it says they should be apprehended and prosecuted. But, there is no place to kee them until that prosectution can take place....so they are released on their own recognizance.
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    On the contrary, it says they should be apprehended and prosecuted
    RARIUS, this was my understanding but the continual lack of common sense with this one issue drives me up the wall, lol.

    Right back to THE LAW.

    IMHO, pushing back hard on the elected officials re: rule of law can be a powerful tool in this fight.

    ***not having law enforcement uphold the law is a major issue. How can a mayor etc. "tell" law enforcement that they CANNOT UPHOLD THE LAW as is the case with NYC and NJ? Wouldn't "that law" be unlawfull? You get my drift here, I'm sure. I'm trying to sort it out and put it into order.
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